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Eria Tarka 
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Posted: April 18 2013 at 01:52 |
 HolyMoly wrote:
I wonder how many fans of the group CAN didn't really like them that much at first. That's probably true of me. I bought "Ege Bamyasi" first and was a little disappointed because their music is so repetitive and jam-oriented, not as conventionally "composed" as most other prog rock, and not heavy nor psychedelic in the conventional manner either. It really grows on you, though. Twenty years on, they're second only to Magma as my favorite prog band.
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I really didn't like Can when I first heard them, probably because I was expecting something more like Eloy, or Triumvirat. Needless to say they're one of my very favorite bands now.
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Posted: April 17 2013 at 14:39 |
Hi, I have a different take on all this, because this music scene came up at the same time as other arts in Germany that were also just as important and valuable, and helped define Edgar Froese's words in the BBC Special even more like it. When you see the folks from Faust playing around the junk in the yard in that Special, you will be seeing what the German Theater and film in the late 60's and early 70's were doing with words and concepts -- everything that Klaus Kinski was doing in film was ad-lib ... is that really different than Damo? ... are any of the plays by Peter Handke any different than what Damo was doing? ... geeeeee ... doesn't it make you wonder where it might have come from? It's really hard to talk about it here in this board, because the majority of folks do not believe that rock music players are intelligent enough, or studious enough to know film, theater, literature, ballet, opera and other disciplines in the arts, other than the populist version of a top ten song and its coda! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in Paris is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in Tokyo is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in NY is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in SF is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in LA is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in Rio is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in Havana is more interesting! But we do not consider those options or even believe those folks were intelligent enough to even have a music scene (for example) ... and all you have to do is go look at the movie scene, the literary scene, the theater scene, the dance scene, for you to know that ... wtf ... where's the music? You are not seeing all there is to see in order to understand things better ... and thus, saying that it is simply a jagged guitar on a guided improvisation and or about chord changes and odd time sequences, which invalidate the meaning and feeling of the music altogether and make it all just mechanical, and the like ... is actually not quite close or even right at all ... there is a lot more to it than that ... just not as visible as are the standard rock changes in chords and sequences ... and of course ... the most copied thing in prog ... the sonata format with a chorus in the middle .... the ultimate prog metal design that is defining "talent" these days!
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Posted: April 17 2013 at 12:04 |
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Krautrock is always in heavy rotation in my home.Today I listened to Wallenstein's Mother Universe:awesome!I discovered this highly influential music 9 years ago through Amon Duul 2 and Popol Vuh:really brilliant head music!
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Posted: April 17 2013 at 09:33 |
Used to be tons. Now it's the second option because I listen to too many genres nowadays to say I listen to a certain one tons.  Love it lots though. 
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Posted: April 17 2013 at 03:32 |
Two weeks ago week I tried out Tangerine Dream again. I still can't get into it. I guess I'm not a kraut-fan (well, I like stew with sauerkraut and sausage and other meat)
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 15:41 |
That's spaced-out (not our...........I hate typo's............  )
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 15:39 |
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 15:12 |
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To make vodka in an unsanitary way, I guess.
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 15:11 |
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 13:20 |
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 12:10 |
I used to have Autobahn.  Not listening to Krautrock isn't a conscious decision. I was surprised when I first noticed Kraftwerk were on the site, but on second thought not. Autobahn was one of the first LPs in my collection when I was a kid.
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 12:05 |
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Think I'm gonna get myself a piece of their action on at least one CD. I really don't want to get Hinten.  Either Kanguru or Dance of the Flames.
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 11:26 |
^Sums it up pretty nicely for me too. I remember buying Yeti as a wee lad and not really getting it. Frequent visits have since turned me around completely, and now I consider myself quite the connoisseur - even if that sounds like I should be sitting here sipping wine, instead of peeling potatoes in bed.
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 09:38 |
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I wonder how many fans of the group CAN didn't really like them that much at first. That's probably true of me. I bought "Ege Bamyasi" first and was a little disappointed because their music is so repetitive and jam-oriented, not as conventionally "composed" as most other prog rock, and not heavy nor psychedelic in the conventional manner either. It really grows on you, though. Twenty years on, they're second only to Magma as my favorite prog band.
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 09:02 |
Haven't listened much in the last five years. 
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 01:14 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ I think of Symph and K-rock separately.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Well, in that case, grab more than one CD, maybe one from each of the bands: ADII, Can, the Vuh, ... well, the big names. |
That I will. I don't have anything else in mind yet.
Any specific suggestions, or just grab the prettiest covers? I'll probably give the Krautrock page a quick look too for the popular ones.
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The big album names, ... can't really recommend anything as it is my belief that second-guessing you would be a pointless thing to do. Some really dig Can, some really dig Popol Vuh, etc. A quick tip: ADII are more along the psych rock-n'-roll side of things; Can, Faust, and Neu! are big on experimentation; and Popol Vuh's music was grounded in electronic minimalism until Florian Fricke had a change of heart in favor of the acoustic ways (the "spiritual music"). TD are arguably a K-rock collective (electronic minimalism and ambient).
The choice is yours. Just read the reviews if that helps.
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Thanks for the info, much appreciated! I try to avoid reading reviews before I check out an album/band. I do this because I want to listen to the music fresh, with as little knowledge of the music as I can. I'll look at ratings to decide what I should pursue/purchase, but I save the reviews until after I hear the music.
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 00:48 |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 00:19 |
^ I think of Symph and K-rock separately.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Well, in that case, grab more than one CD, maybe one from each of the bands: ADII, Can, the Vuh, ... well, the big names. |
That I will. I don't have anything else in mind yet.
Any specific suggestions, or just grab the prettiest covers? I'll probably give the Krautrock page a quick look too for the popular ones.
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The big album names, ... can't really recommend anything as it is my belief that second-guessing you would be a pointless thing to do. Some really dig Can, some really dig Popol Vuh, etc. A quick tip: ADII are more along the psych rock-n'-roll side of things; Can, Faust, and Neu! are big on experimentation; and Popol Vuh's music was grounded in electronic minimalism until Florian Fricke had a change of heart in favor of the acoustic ways (the "spiritual music"). TD are arguably a K-rock collective (electronic minimalism and ambient). The choice is yours. Just read the reviews if that helps.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - April 16 2013 at 00:24
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Posted: April 15 2013 at 21:19 |
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It's interesting exactly what bands are considered Krautrock. Anyone have any ideas? Are Novalis and Holderlin Krautrock just because their German? I think we kind of had this conversation 2 years ago.
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Posted: April 15 2013 at 20:13 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Well, in that case, grab more than one CD, maybe one from each of the bands: ADII, Can, the Vuh, ... well, the big names. |
That I will. I don't have anything else in mind yet. Any specific suggestions, or just grab the prettiest covers? I'll probably give the Krautrock page a quick look too for the popular ones.
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