How much do you listen to Krautrock?
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Topic: How much do you listen to Krautrock?
Posted By: 40footwolf
Subject: How much do you listen to Krautrock?
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 20:50
I was wondering what the popularity of Krautrock was on this board. It seems to be one of the genres with the fewest actual ratings and reviews on the site, but I was wondering how popular it was among the dedicated community.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 20:52
Quite a bit! It's not an "every day" kind of music for me, but I have a lot of Cds of it and when I get in the right mood I listen to a ton of it.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 20:55
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 21:01
Tons - it's right up there with RIO/Avant, Zeuhl, Electronic, and Canterbury for me.
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Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:09
I've been listening to more and more of it lately. The brooding heaviness is pretty seductive sometimes. Also, those Germans really know how to use and abuse a Hammond.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:23
Tons -one of my favourite genres, along with fusion, Italian prog, and classical music could not live without krautrock!
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:24
I have only one album from the genre and I like it. No vote, I guess.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:25
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Krautrock = sex
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OH!
That's what you meant in the Shred Room when you said you enjoyed Krautrock with my mom! Gotcha, boss.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:28
Epignosis wrote:
I have only one album from the genre and I like it. No vote, I guess.
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Which album?
EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out with clever, clever detective work. I actually don't have that one, but have been meaning to pick it up.
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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:32
I think a lot of people tend to classify much of Krautrock as space rock in their minds.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:38
Epignosis wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Krautrock = sex
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OH!
That's what you meant in the Shred Room when you said you enjoyed Krautrock with my mom! Gotcha, boss.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:47
I don't listen to it much but I very much enjoy some of it.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 23:20
Krautrock will possibly be my most listened to genre in the coming months, along with some Prog Electronic. It's a good genre for fall/winter. I need more Krautrock albums though, my collection is embarrassingly thin.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 23:51
I don't like repetition so no, not really, but more importantly, I don't understand how a WW1-era racial slur has been permanently attached to this genre of music. Although Wikipedia tells me that kraut means herb and so is slang for marijuana, so maybe that's why.
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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 00:09
I like krautrock and listen to it when I'm in the mood for it. I used to have a strange obsession over it a few years back, but that has now subsided.
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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 00:35
Option 5
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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 00:49
Henry Plainview wrote:
I don't like repetition so no, not really, but more importantly, I don't understand how a WW1-era racial slur has been permanently attached to this genre of music. Although Wikipedia tells me that kraut means herb and so is slang for marijuana, so maybe that's why. |
Yeah, that's always kinda bugged me too. I guess "Kosmiche Musik" is too long to say, but still, that doesn't make the alternative okay.
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Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 01:09
I prefer playing Krautrock with my friends over listening to it...
Option 3 for me.
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 01:29
Option 2: I really like (early) Krautrock!
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 01:38
Option 4. I can't really see loving the genre anytime soon, but there are a couple of albums that I enjoy.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 02:25
TD are considered Space, instead of Kraut. With TD it would have been more than "Quite a bit"
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 03:02
I never listen to it (unless I try a PA mp3 sample), but it goes too far to state that it sucks, so I think that option #4 fits me better. Sometimes it sounds good to me, but manchmal I feel forced to think that the performing artists have smoked too much... ... Kraut.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 03:05
What in the Hell is Krautrock?!
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 03:06
octopus-4 wrote:
TD are considered Space, instead of Kraut. With TD it would have been more than "Quite a bit" |
What is TD?
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 03:08
Gandalff wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
TD are considered Space, instead of Kraut. With TD it would have been more than "Quite a bit" |
What is TD? |
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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 03:09
I'm not sure what to vote here.
It's not as good as "I really like it" but better than "it's alright I guess".
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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 06:17
I listened to a little Krautrock once. Really dug the vibe, wish I could remember what band it was. Its one of the genres I'll slowly work my way towards in a year or two, I feel.
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 06:35
Quite a bit.
Krautrock, RPI and Prog-Folk are what I mainly listen to when it comes to prog, I guess.
But TD makes me cringe...
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Posted By: cohen34
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 08:01
I said Tons because Krautrock really is my fav. genre. Tago Mago = best album ever!
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Posted By: AA
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 10:48
Option 2 for me. Of course I have to be in the mood, but I could probably listen to Can's Tago Mago, Ege Bamyasi and Future Days every day, they are amazing, and work great as background music if I'm reading or painting. Oh, and Hosianna Mantra is invaluable at night before sleep, it digs out the saint in me i guess
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Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 11:06
I know what it is. Its just that there are so many other sub-genres that are distracting me from listening to it.
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 11:25
I like to listen to krautrock like Can, Guru Guru and I want to listen to more krautrock. It's however quite expensive if you're a vinyl collector like me. Some krautrock is to avant-garde for me, but a lot of bands made very impressive and stylish prog.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 12:03
I have a few Amon Duul II albums which range from pretty good to okay for me, and I have one Can album of which I only really like one song. So I can't say I'm real big on the genre, but I'm open to hear more.
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 07:35
Big fan, these days it's my favorite together with fusion and electronic.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 16:39
Quite a bit, I really like it, its actualy one of my favorit genre.
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Posted By: DeKay
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 17:38
I love Krautrock. I think it's one of the best things that happened to (prog) music. Not my favorite genre though...
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 00:15
Went with "Quite a bit, I really like it". I haven't had a Deutsche Avantgarde streak in a while.
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 00:21
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Went with "Quite a bit, I really like it". I haven't had a Deutsche Avantgarde streak in a while. |
Pretty much this
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 01:02
Definately the 2nd option from the list. Quite a bit, but there's so much other stuff to enjoy I can't fully immerse myself in just Krautrock. Fantastic sub-genre, without question.
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 03:35
I'm alright with it. I was more into it a while back. Like someone else said, I have a problem with repetition these days. I wonder if I'd still even like Music for 18 Musicians... although, that actually varies a ton.
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 11:36
It's quickly become one of my favourite genres of music out there. So many creative, influential bands came out of it, a lot have become some of my favourites for sure.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 11:51
I can't stop listening to it. It's a medical condition.
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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 16:37
I seem to be in the "What the hell is this Krautrock" group you've created. So yeah, I don't know if I like it or not. I looked through several of the artists in that sub-genre, and I haven't listened to any of them.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 16:40
^ You must remedy this immediately.
Better yet, start with ADII. Get Yeti.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 17:23
Hardly except for a few Can tracks, hardly ever
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Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 17:35
I didn't like it for a long time, mainly because I had only really checked out Ash Ra Tempel. However when when I finally branched out to some Popol Vuh and some Amon Duul II, I grew to love it. I voted in the quite a bit category.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 18:07
There are several kraut bands on my "bands to check out" list, and I plan to check some out soon, but I've yet to get into any bands considered krautrock
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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 20:00
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ You must remedy this immediately.
Better yet, start with ADII. Get Yeti.
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Making a trip to the record store tomorrow. I'll look for that one.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 20:03
^ Well, in that case, grab more than one CD, maybe one from each of the bands: ADII, Can, the Vuh, ... well, the big names.
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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 20:13
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Well, in that case, grab more than one CD, maybe one from each of the bands: ADII, Can, the Vuh, ... well, the big names. |
That I will. I don't have anything else in mind yet.
Any specific suggestions, or just grab the prettiest covers? I'll probably give the Krautrock page a quick look too for the popular ones.
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Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: April 15 2013 at 21:19
It's interesting exactly what bands are considered Krautrock. Anyone have any ideas? Are Novalis and Holderlin Krautrock just because their German? I think we kind of had this conversation 2 years ago.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 00:19
^ I think of Symph and K-rock separately.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Well, in that case, grab more than one CD, maybe one from each of the bands: ADII, Can, the Vuh, ... well, the big names. |
That I will. I don't have anything else in mind yet.
Any specific suggestions, or just grab the prettiest covers? I'll probably give the Krautrock page a quick look too for the popular ones.
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The choice is yours. Just read the reviews if that helps.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 00:48
GURU GURU -
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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 01:14
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ I think of Symph and K-rock separately.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Well, in that case, grab more than one CD, maybe one from each of the bands: ADII, Can, the Vuh, ... well, the big names. |
That I will. I don't have anything else in mind yet.
Any specific suggestions, or just grab the prettiest covers? I'll probably give the Krautrock page a quick look too for the popular ones.
| The big album names, ... can't really recommend anything as it is my belief that second-guessing you would be a pointless thing to do. Some really dig Can, some really dig Popol Vuh, etc. A quick tip: ADII are more along the psych rock-n'-roll side of things; Can, Faust, and Neu! are big on experimentation; and Popol Vuh's music was grounded in electronic minimalism until Florian Fricke had a change of heart in favor of the acoustic ways (the "spiritual music"). TD are arguably a K-rock collective (electronic minimalism and ambient).
The choice is yours. Just read the reviews if that helps.
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Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
I try to avoid reading reviews before I check out an album/band. I do this because I want to listen to the music fresh, with as little knowledge of the music as I can. I'll look at ratings to decide what I should pursue/purchase, but I save the reviews until after I hear the music.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 09:02
Haven't listened much in the last five years.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 09:38
I wonder how many fans of the group CAN didn't really like them that much at first. That's probably true of me. I bought "Ege Bamyasi" first and was a little disappointed because their music is so repetitive and jam-oriented, not as conventionally "composed" as most other prog rock, and not heavy nor psychedelic in the conventional manner either. It really grows on you, though. Twenty years on, they're second only to Magma as my favorite prog band.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 11:26
^Sums it up pretty nicely for me too. I remember buying Yeti as a wee lad and not really getting it. Frequent visits have since turned me around completely, and now I consider myself quite the connoisseur - even if that sounds like I should be sitting here sipping wine, instead of peeling potatoes in bed.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 12:05
Tom Ozric wrote:
GURU GURU - | Think I'm gonna get myself a piece of their action on at least one CD. I really don't want to get Hinten. Either Kanguru or Dance of the Flames.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 12:10
I used to have Autobahn. Not listening to Krautrock isn't a conscious decision. I was surprised when I first noticed Kraftwerk were on the site, but on second thought not. Autobahn was one of the first LPs in my collection when I was a kid.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 13:20
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
GURU GURU - | Think I'm gonna get myself a piece of their action on at least one CD. I really don't want to get Hinten. Either Kanguru or Dance of the Flames. | Hinten is my favorite, in spite of the butts.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 15:11
Guldbamsen wrote:
peeling potatoes in bed. |
wut
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 15:12
To make vodka in an unsanitary way, I guess.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 15:39
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 16 2013 at 15:41
That's spaced-out (not our...........I hate typo's............)
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 17 2013 at 03:32
Two weeks ago week I tried out Tangerine Dream again. I still can't get into it. I guess I'm not a kraut-fan (well, I like stew with sauerkraut and sausage and other meat)
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 17 2013 at 09:33
Used to be tons. Now it's the second option because I listen to too many genres nowadays to say I listen to a certain one tons. Love it lots though.
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Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: April 17 2013 at 12:04
Krautrock is always in heavy rotation in my home.Today I listened to Wallenstein's Mother Universe:awesome!I discovered this highly influential music 9 years ago through Amon Duul 2 and Popol Vuh:really brilliant head music!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 17 2013 at 14:39
Hi, I have a different take on all this, because this music scene came up at the same time as other arts in Germany that were also just as important and valuable, and helped define Edgar Froese's words in the BBC Special even more like it. When you see the folks from Faust playing around the junk in the yard in that Special, you will be seeing what the German Theater and film in the late 60's and early 70's were doing with words and concepts -- everything that Klaus Kinski was doing in film was ad-lib ... is that really different than Damo? ... are any of the plays by Peter Handke any different than what Damo was doing? ... geeeeee ... doesn't it make you wonder where it might have come from? It's really hard to talk about it here in this board, because the majority of folks do not believe that rock music players are intelligent enough, or studious enough to know film, theater, literature, ballet, opera and other disciplines in the arts, other than the populist version of a top ten song and its coda! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in Paris is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in Tokyo is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in NY is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in SF is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in LA is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in Rio is more interesting! As such, all of a sudden the music scene in Havana is more interesting! But we do not consider those options or even believe those folks were intelligent enough to even have a music scene (for example) ... and all you have to do is go look at the movie scene, the literary scene, the theater scene, the dance scene, for you to know that ... wtf ... where's the music? You are not seeing all there is to see in order to understand things better ... and thus, saying that it is simply a jagged guitar on a guided improvisation and or about chord changes and odd time sequences, which invalidate the meaning and feeling of the music altogether and make it all just mechanical, and the like ... is actually not quite close or even right at all ... there is a lot more to it than that ... just not as visible as are the standard rock changes in chords and sequences ... and of course ... the most copied thing in prog ... the sonata format with a chorus in the middle .... the ultimate prog metal design that is defining "talent" these days!
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: April 18 2013 at 01:52
HolyMoly wrote:
I wonder how many fans of the group CAN didn't really like them that much at first. That's probably true of me. I bought "Ege Bamyasi" first and was a little disappointed because their music is so repetitive and jam-oriented, not as conventionally "composed" as most other prog rock, and not heavy nor psychedelic in the conventional manner either. It really grows on you, though. Twenty years on, they're second only to Magma as my favorite prog band.
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I really didn't like Can when I first heard them, probably because I was expecting something more like Eloy, or Triumvirat. Needless to say they're one of my very favorite bands now.
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