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Dean
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Topic: The Pretty Things not on PA? Posted: February 19 2012 at 07:47 |
okay - Pretty Things now approved for addition to Proto Prog.
Whoever writes the Bio can leave it here. Since anyone can add an album we'll leave that to whoever wants to do it, either in one go or piecemeal, however, I suggest we have all the details for SF Sorrow and Parachutes before the addition as they are the ones most people will want to review.
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 07:25 |
^ Does Bob look daft to you?
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:51 |
Hehe, it was the bio and disco I thought of as the massive task. The addition into the database itself is a 2 minute task at worst with a prepared bio at hand ;-)
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:48 |
Bob has already volunteered to do the add as long as someone prepares the Biography and Discography.
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:47 |
Now, if they get approved, whose the unlucky b*****d that gets to do the donkey work on that addition? A massive task ahead for someone by the looks of it.
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:41 |
MMmmhh yes - that would indeed be great. Wonderful band that was every bit as charming as those boys from Liverpool. I loooooove Parachute
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:37 |
I've re-bumped the thread in the AZ - we're waiting on one vote, but indications are they will get approved for PP.
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:31 |
Bumping this one ever so slightly, as Fruits de Mer now have a tribute album out - SF Sorrow given a run through by 13 different contemporary bands, of which a few of the contributors are in the PA database.
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Posted: November 14 2011 at 09:25 |
I happened to notice that their song Private Sorrow-Balloon Burning was on the Supernatural Fairy Tales compilation so for the heck of it I checked PA to see what category they were in and saw that they aren't included. Additional research found this thread from a year + ago. Just curious if anything further was decided regarding this band and whether proto-prog or psychedelic prog was an appropriate category for them.
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 16:24 |
SF Sorrow is a concept-album released in 1968. What is surprising is that it is not proto-prog but really prog !
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 12:52 |
himtroy wrote:
They're a much greater example of proto-prog/prog related than many of the "classic rock" bands that are included in proto prog/prog related. Their album S.F. Sorrow being the main arguing point. |
I agree! And it's such a great album!
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 14:03 |
^ Their first two albums are run-of-the-mill 1960s british R&B Beat combo stuff (two early singles were covered by Bowie on Pin-ups). The next 'Emotions' saw them go Psyche-pop like many of those 1960s R&B bands, SF Sorrow and Parachute are a culmination of that move towards psyche - personally I think SF Sorrow is over-acclaimed, it's okay, but not great. Anything after Parachutes is best avoided.
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 13:46 |
I heard the Pretty Things were good, but I didn't do my research and I ended up getting Savage Eye, since it was the only one the record store had. It's terrible. I want to check out S. F. Sorrow or Parachute, but I'm reluctant after my bad experience with Savage Eye.
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 13:32 |
Currenly under consideration for proto prog, more news soon.
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 13:24 |
How is this going? Do we think they'll end up on here?
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 05:43 |
Not trying to put major events in motion, just adding my opinion in the bunch of those that are already here.
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 05:21 |
Marty McFly wrote:
I listened both mentioned albums, I thought and I'm unsure. Proto ? |
Enough people here think Proto and Bob is going to propose them to the PR-team to evaluate, further opinion is interesting, but won't change anything.
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 05:05 |
Dean wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
I myself found them today, so I'm not the one suitable to handle their addition, but if they'll be found worthy of some of our Prog (or almost Prog - PROTO/RELATED) categories, I wanted to give chance to members here to help. Outsource our work a little bit, give them a hint what's our daily bread (most of us does few biographies on weekly basis) etc.
But what do you mean Dean by double O and what do you Chris mean by 006.5% ?
Indeed, SC has to send application, as in case with Stewart Copeland and Ray Manzarek is currently going on. Who will it be, that's not so sure as of now. |
007 is James Bond - "Do pay attention 007" is what "Q" says to James Bond when he shows him all the wizz spy gadgets.
I was making a joke while making a point. Bob has already volunteered to be the SC proposing Pretty Things for Proto-Prog.
all Admins are SCs - in case you missed that too  .
SO, "Do pay attention Marty!"  |
So that's it :-D I saw most of Bond movies when I was young, so with Czech dubbing (as our foolish TV's dub everything), so I know this line as "Dávej pozor agente 007". + I always confused characters 0 & O, as they look almost the same, so I thought that you said double OO. Smile used in this case would probably be (obvious) O_o Too overcombined Dean, like plot of very complex movie.
OK, 5 stars equals 5 stars, they have the same adding privileges, but I forgot that admins add bands too, as it's not happening so often (except you, John Easy Money etc).
I listened both mentioned albums, I thought and I'm unsure. Proto ?
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 01:53 |
Easy Livin wrote:
While they have been discussed, they've never been formally proposed or rejected for Proto-prog as far as I can remember.
Given the significance of PF sorrow, which is often cited as the first concept album, they would seem like a good addition to me (personal view, I think I'm allowed one!).
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 Agree -- just "discovered" the Prettys myself, a few months ago. I now have Emotions ('67) and Parachute ('70) -- great albums. (I want "Sorrow," but the original version is not on Itunes.)
With concepts, psychedelia, strings, etc, a shoe-in for "proto" or "related," IMO.
I especially recommend Parachute to fans of classic rock (such as The Kinks) -- prog or otherwise. 
I missed them "back in the day" -- they were not at all well known this side of the pond. Pity.
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