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    Posted: February 23 2010 at 16:52
Sorry if I'm a little touchy about SM Seven. I've read so many reviews about the Softs that totally write off any of their LPs after "Four". ( Same with the Mahavishnus after "Birds of Fire". ) Glad to hear that you're familiar with the subtlety of SM"Seven". At least there's two of us. Perigeo released a couple of Jazz rock fusion LPs in the mid 70s that also seemed to achieve an intimate trance-like subtlety. A few years ago,  my son had a screen saver with some New Age type music in the background. I was amazed to find out it was Jenkins and Ratledge!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2010 at 23:06
Originally posted by Pete A. Pete A. wrote:

Soft Machine Seven is much under appreciated. Especially Side Two (on vinyl), which to me sounds like Kraftwerk playing Miles Davis. The musicians sound as if they are in a trance. Way ahead of it's time!! Am I the only person who hears this?
 
No, you're not. Why do you think it's one of my favorite jazz rock records?Wink
 
It's indeed sublime. The duo of Ratledge and Jenkins did fantastic stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2010 at 22:55
Soft Machine Seven is much under appreciated. Especially Side Two (on vinyl), which to me sounds like Kraftwerk playing Miles Davis. The musicians sound as if they are in a trance. Way ahead of it's time!! Am I the only person who hears this?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2010 at 07:51
Wow, I actually have most of those, and I'm not really a jazz or fusion nut.  So suffice to say you've got good tastes in fusion. Big smile
 
I went with Gazeuse! because it's a simply stunning piece of music, both from the guitar angle and from the mallet percussion angle.  And the songs are good and memorable.  I played the heck out of this album when I discovered it when it first appeared on CD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 22:22
Originally posted by Evolutionary_Sleeper Evolutionary_Sleeper wrote:

I have to go with Time Control. The musicianship on that album is just fantastic. 

I knew you would vote for thatThumbs Up Listened to it today, it's awesome.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 22:10
I have to go with Time Control. The musicianship on that album is just fantastic. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:36
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Since no-one has been saying much about GAZEUSE, let me put in another word for Gary Burton's 1970s solo albums, which feature the great Burton himself on vibes, the great Eberhard Weber on bass, and the great Pat Metheny (while still in his teens) on guitar. Among other players. Of course I'm thinking here about RING and PASSENGERS. Both ECM, but l-i-v-e-l-y! It seems pretty obvious to me that if anyone loves GAZEUSE, THE GRAND WAZOO and BLACK MARKET (as The Quiet One does), they're gonna love these as well.

By the way, oh Quiet One, is the Who your favourite rock band?
 
No, The Who is not my favorite rock band, that's Deep Purple. But The Who were one of the first 70's bands I loved, so indeed they hold a special place in my heart.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:34
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

I must admit, I do love American Garage.
 
Clap Great to know! It's indeed a fantastic record, specially the title track and 'The Epic'.


Lyle Mays is simply amazing on this song.

I cannot get enough of that piano solo...

We should review it man. The page for it looks a little empty
 
Yeah, we should! That one and the debut(of the Group not Metheny solo).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:00
I don't have the RTF or MO albums listed here, so won't vote.  Much love for Hiromi and Gong though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 08:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 03:52
Since no-one has been saying much about GAZEUSE, let me put in another word for Gary Burton's 1970s solo albums, which feature the great Burton himself on vibes, the great Eberhard Weber on bass, and the great Pat Metheny (while still in his teens) on guitar. Among other players. Of course I'm thinking here about RING and PASSENGERS. Both ECM, but l-i-v-e-l-y! It seems pretty obvious to me that if anyone loves GAZEUSE, THE GRAND WAZOO and BLACK MARKET (as The Quiet One does), they're gonna love these as well.

By the way, oh Quiet One, is the Who your favourite rock band?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 00:56
Miles Davis was unstoppable during his fusion period.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:41
American Garage by Pat Metheny Group
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:42
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Jack Johnson. The very best Miles album I've heard.


Would pick that one from what I know off this list, though I have a particular thing for Get Up With It (love that album) and Big Fun from his 70's studio albums .  Actually, there are several here I don't have, so I don't feel qualified to vote (most ridiculously, being a Soft Machine fan, I don't have Seven).

And Pablo, thought Herbie Hancock's Sextant and/or Crossings ranked amongst your favourites, but I'm probably confused.  My memory has become terribly poor over the last few years (was once extremely good).
 
Get Up With It is indeed pretty good and is very innovating, but I've listened more to Jack Johnson and I'm more fond of it for now. Still haven't listened to Big Fun, but I'm very keen to listen what it's like.
 
About Hancock, I've recently acquired Crossings and Sextant, while I can't say they're favorites of mine, Crossings is indeed excellent. I'm a fan of Headhunters, but I think that's no surprise.


Ah yes, I was thinking of Headhunters (thought of that after posting).  Good album, though it never had the same effect on me as the Mwandishi albums.  Really getting into Davis and Hancock led to me discovering so much great Fusion from related artists (Byrd's Electric Byrd, Priester's Love, Love, Henderson's Realization etc. etc.) and then ones further afield.  I think this last year really was the year of JRF for me (even though I discovered lots of other great music too).  And I think it's been the same for quite a few (even though I liked JRF before and when I was younger I listened to jazz regularly).  After Davis and Hancock's additions and discussions on whether they should be included, in particular, I saw quite a rise in jazz-rock, and jazz, threads (I mean, Mahavishnu Orchestra and some others such as Return to Forever and Brand X got attention, but not much else).
 
This year is being my jazz rock year, haha. I'm really loving a hell lot of Canterbury albums which are heavily inclined towards jazz rock. And of course some other bands too, Miles, Hancock's Mwandishi albums,  Mahavishnu's unpopular albums(Visions and Apocalypse), and others.
 
Like you, I've been listening to jazz since I was a kid due to my dad who is a big fan of jazz, classical music and prog. Bill Evans, Coltrane, early Miles, Corea, Jarrett, Metheny, Pastorious-era Weather Report, and some others.


I'm sure you knew jazz and jazz-fusion much better than I did at that age (though I got exposed to a fair amount then). Later, one of my bothers would often take me to a jazz club (when I was already of drinking-age), so it was more a live-based experience that I knew then (though I knew Jarrett and some others as a kid due to his albums).  And a friend's brother teaches Fusion and jazz guitar so I got to know various stuff from him.  My other brother introduced me to Prog as a kid, though he now hates it.  My dad was pretty much strictly classical (and disapproved of anything remotely rock), but my mum liked jazz.  I think I owe my resurgence of interest in Prog to hearing "Peaches en Regalia" on the radio, and then later hearing "Free Hand" which has a beautiful jazziness, then I quickly discovered the joys of Canterbury, jazzy Zeuhl, RIO, and ones now in Eclectic Prog, but I wasn't deeply exploring the joys of jazz-rock that is includable in the JRF category until some years later (and man, it is an amazing scene).  I'm still pretty green.  Last summer I was almost exclusively into jazz-rock and jazz.  Some years ago I discovered Coltrane, and his music had a significant impact on me.  Prog is often jazzy, so it really helped to deepen my appreciation for jazz (though I've seen a few at PA who say they don't like jazz at all, yet  jazz is such an important component of so very much prog).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:15
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

I must admit, I do love American Garage.
 
Clap Great to know! It's indeed a fantastic record, specially the title track and 'The Epic'.


Lyle Mays is simply amazing on this song.

I cannot get enough of that piano solo...

We should review it man. The page for it looks a little empty
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:06
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Jack Johnson. The very best Miles album I've heard.


Would pick that one from what I know off this list, though I have a particular thing for Get Up With It (love that album) and Big Fun from his 70's studio albums .  Actually, there are several here I don't have, so I don't feel qualified to vote (most ridiculously, being a Soft Machine fan, I don't have Seven).

And Pablo, thought Herbie Hancock's Sextant and/or Crossings ranked amongst your favourites, but I'm probably confused.  My memory has become terribly poor over the last few years (was once extremely good).
 
Get Up With It is indeed pretty good and is very innovating, but I've listened more to Jack Johnson and I'm more fond of it for now. Still haven't listened to Big Fun, but I'm very keen to listen what it's like.
 
About Hancock, I've recently acquired Crossings and Sextant, while I can't say they're favorites of mine, Crossings is indeed excellent. I'm a fan of Headhunters, but I think that's no surprise.


Ah yes, I was thinking of Headhunters (thought of that after posting).  Good album, though it never had the same effect on me as the Mwandishi albums.  Really getting into Davis and Hancock led to me discovering so much great Fusion from related artists (Byrd's Electric Byrd, Priester's Love, Love, Henderson's Realization etc. etc.) and then ones further afield.  I think this last year really was the year of JRF for me (even though I discovered lots of other great music too).  And I think it's been the same for quite a few (even though I liked JRF before and when I was younger I listened to jazz regularly).  After Davis and Hancock's additions and discussions on whether they should be included, in particular, I saw quite a rise in jazz-rock, and jazz, threads (I mean, Mahavishnu Orchestra and some others such as Return to Forever and Brand X got attention, but not much else).
 
This year is being my jazz rock year, haha. I'm really loving a hell lot of Canterbury albums which are heavily inclined towards jazz rock. And of course some other bands too, Miles, Hancock's Mwandishi albums,  Mahavishnu's unpopular albums(Visions and Apocalypse), and others.
 
Like you, I've been listening to jazz since I was a kid due to my dad who is a big fan of jazz, classical music and prog. Bill Evans, Coltrane, early Miles, Corea, Jarrett, Metheny, Pastorious-era Weather Report, and some others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:01
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Jack Johnson. The very best Miles album I've heard.


Would pick that one from what I know off this list, though I have a particular thing for Get Up With It (love that album) and Big Fun from his 70's studio albums .  Actually, there are several here I don't have, so I don't feel qualified to vote (most ridiculously, being a Soft Machine fan, I don't have Seven).

And Pablo, thought Herbie Hancock's Sextant and/or Crossings ranked amongst your favourites, but I'm probably confused.  My memory has become terribly poor over the last few years (was once extremely good).
 
Get Up With It is indeed pretty good and is very innovating, but I've listened more to Jack Johnson and I'm more fond of it for now. Still haven't listened to Big Fun, but I'm very keen to listen what it's like.
 
About Hancock, I've recently acquired Crossings and Sextant, while I can't say they're favorites of mine, Crossings is indeed excellent. I'm a fan of Headhunters, but I think that's no surprise.


Ah yes, I was thinking of Headhunters (thought of that after posting).  Good album, though it never had the same effect on me as the Mwandishi albums.  Really getting into Davis and Hancock led to me discovering so much great Fusion from related artists (Byrd's Electric Byrd, Priester's Love, Love, Henderson's Realization etc. etc.) and then ones further afield.  I think this last year really was the year of JRF for me (even though I discovered lots of other great music too).  And I think it's been the same for quite a few (even though I liked JRF before and when I was younger I listened to jazz regularly).  After Davis and Hancock's additions and discussions on whether they should be included, in particular, I saw quite a rise in jazz-rock, and jazz, threads (I mean, Mahavishnu Orchestra and some others such as Return to Forever and Brand X got attention, but not much else).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:59
^yeah, Apocalypse by Mahavishnu Orchestra bored me a hell lot at first listens. But after having liked the more accessible but very much in the same vein, Visions of the Emerald Beyond, Apocalypse clicked me entirely and now love it completely.
 
From Hiromi, the album Time Control is the best place to start for Prog fans.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:55
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Sorry, Pablo. I don't own any of these Embarrassed
 
Ah, don't worry. Knowing your taste, from the list I would highly recommend you the following:
 
Time Control - Hiromi Uehara: it's Prog Jazz, haha. Very complex jazz rock with prog rock influences like Dream Theater(not the metal aspect), Gentle Giant, and the like.
Have a look:
 
Apocalypse - Mahavishnu Orchestra: Symphonic Prog with Jazz Rock leanings:


Pablo,

Thanks a lot for the suggestions! I really liked the Hiromi Uehara song. Any recommendations in terms of albums? I wasn't really in love with the Mahavishnu Orchestra song, but that sounds like something that wouldn't particularly "grab" you at first listen.

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