Quiet One's Favorite Jazz Rock/Fusion Records
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Topic: Quiet One's Favorite Jazz Rock/Fusion Records
Posted By: The Quiet One
Subject: Quiet One's Favorite Jazz Rock/Fusion Records
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 14:16
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It's been a while since I last made a poll, so here goes my first one in ages.
I didn't include some of my all-time favorites like Grand Wazoo, Spectrum, Black Market, Caravanserai and Enigmatic Ocean since I fear they would have won the poll easily, which is not what I want for a poll.
VOTE AWAY!
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 14:27
| Gazeuse. Miles Davis and Mahavishnu Orchestra at the same level. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 14:28
Good to know that there's some love for Apocalpyse besides comin' from me
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snobb wrote:Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 14:38
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Gonna have to go with Miles. That album has grown on me considerably since I bought it.
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 14:40
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Soft Machine - Seven I really like Jack Johnson, but i've kinda gotten tired of it. At least "Right off". |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 14:41
 Who voted for Return to Forever!? SHOW YOURSELF!
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 14:43
Good choice, Seven is definitely my favorite Soft Machine album after the live album, British Tour '75.
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 14:46
I think i like what i've heard of the first 2 albums are my favorite. I don't own them yet, though. Of those i do own:
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 15:19
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I voted "Seven" although it's a tie with Miles.RTF is third on this list for me. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 15:51
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Return to Forever, that album is absolutely stellar.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 16:01
Grand Wazoo and Black Market are among my all-time favorites as well! From your list I chose Gazeuse. 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 16:10
 Indeed it is, it's simply forgotten here in the forum. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 16:12
| Come on, people please post when you vote, I'm really curious about who are fans or even know about these albums. |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 16:16
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A vote for Return to Forever -------------  |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 16:43
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Voted for Películas,´La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros was an outstanding band and this particular album a true gem. I also love Apocalypse, and Gazeuse! ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 16:47
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Jack Johnson. The very best Miles album I've heard.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 17:10
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I must admit, I do love American Garage.
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Posted By: alanight
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 17:17
| Voted for Películas! La Máquina was a superb band. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 17:29
Great to know! It's indeed a fantastic record, specially the title track and 'The Epic'. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 17:32
I can't pick between Peliculas or A Tribute to Jack Johnson. That's like asking me to pick between my children 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 17:37
OK, at this point I will cast my vote on behalf of IGB's Clear Air Turbulence - a wonderful album that should get much more recognition around here .
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 17:41
I was expecting you to vote that one! It's a fantastic and very original jazz fusion album, Ian Gillan's vocals are top-notch.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 17:51
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:07
Sorry, Pablo. I don't own any of these 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:10
Would pick that one from what I know off this list, though I have a particular thing for Get Up With It (love that album) and Big Fun from his 70's studio albums . Actually, there are several here I don't have, so I don't feel qualified to vote (most ridiculously, being a Soft Machine fan, I don't have Seven). And Pablo, thought Herbie Hancock's Sextant and/or Crossings ranked amongst your favourites, but I'm probably confused. My memory has become terribly poor over the last few years (was once extremely good). |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:30
Get Up With It is indeed pretty good and is very innovating, but I've listened more to Jack Johnson and I'm more fond of it for now. Still haven't listened to Big Fun, but I'm very keen to listen what it's like.
About Hancock, I've recently acquired Crossings and Sextant, while I can't say they're favorites of mine, Crossings is indeed excellent. I'm a fan of Headhunters, but I think that's no surprise.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:35
Ah, don't worry. Knowing your taste, from the list I would highly recommend you the following:
Time Control - Hiromi Uehara: it's Prog Jazz, haha. Very complex jazz rock with prog rock influences like Dream Theater(not the metal aspect), Gentle Giant, and the like.
Have a look:
Apocalypse - Mahavishnu Orchestra: Symphonic Prog with Jazz Rock leanings:
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Posted By: MrAran
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:40
| Ephel Duath - Pain Necessary to Know |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:47
| Choosing for me is a very difficult vote. It is felt that the list is all wonderful. And, I went to "Clear Air Turbulence". This album is perfect. There is no tune thrown away at all. It is complete Jazz Rock that Ian Gillan did. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:55
Pablo, Thanks a lot for the suggestions! I really liked the Hiromi Uehara song. Any recommendations in terms of albums? I wasn't really in love with the Mahavishnu Orchestra song, but that sounds like something that wouldn't particularly "grab" you at first listen. -Jeff -------------
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 18:59
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^yeah, Apocalypse by Mahavishnu Orchestra bored me a hell lot at first listens. But after having liked the more accessible but very much in the same vein, Visions of the Emerald Beyond, Apocalypse clicked me entirely and now love it completely.
From Hiromi, the album Time Control is the best place to start for Prog fans.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:01
Ah yes, I was thinking of Headhunters (thought of that after posting). Good album, though it never had the same effect on me as the Mwandishi albums. Really getting into Davis and Hancock led to me discovering so much great Fusion from related artists (Byrd's Electric Byrd, Priester's Love, Love, Henderson's Realization etc. etc.) and then ones further afield. I think this last year really was the year of JRF for me (even though I discovered lots of other great music too). And I think it's been the same for quite a few (even though I liked JRF before and when I was younger I listened to jazz regularly). After Davis and Hancock's additions and discussions on whether they should be included, in particular, I saw quite a rise in jazz-rock, and jazz, threads (I mean, Mahavishnu Orchestra and some others such as Return to Forever and Brand X got attention, but not much else). |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:06
This year is being my jazz rock year, haha. I'm really loving a hell lot of Canterbury albums which are heavily inclined towards jazz rock. And of course some other bands too, Miles, Hancock's Mwandishi albums, Mahavishnu's unpopular albums(Visions and Apocalypse), and others.
Like you, I've been listening to jazz since I was a kid due to my dad who is a big fan of jazz, classical music and prog. Bill Evans, Coltrane, early Miles, Corea, Jarrett, Metheny, Pastorious-era Weather Report, and some others.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:15
Lyle Mays is simply amazing on this song. I cannot get enough of that piano solo... We should review it man. The page for it looks a little empty  ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:42
I'm sure you knew jazz and jazz-fusion much better than I did at that age (though I got exposed to a fair amount then). Later, one of my bothers would often take me to a jazz club (when I was already of drinking-age), so it was more a live-based experience that I knew then (though I knew Jarrett and some others as a kid due to his albums). And a friend's brother teaches Fusion and jazz guitar so I got to know various stuff from him. My other brother introduced me to Prog as a kid, though he now hates it. My dad was pretty much strictly classical (and disapproved of anything remotely rock), but my mum liked jazz. I think I owe my resurgence of interest in Prog to hearing "Peaches en Regalia" on the radio, and then later hearing "Free Hand" which has a beautiful jazziness, then I quickly discovered the joys of Canterbury, jazzy Zeuhl, RIO, and ones now in Eclectic Prog, but I wasn't deeply exploring the joys of jazz-rock that is includable in the JRF category until some years later (and man, it is an amazing scene). I'm still pretty green. Last summer I was almost exclusively into jazz-rock and jazz. Some years ago I discovered Coltrane, and his music had a significant impact on me. Prog is often jazzy, so it really helped to deepen my appreciation for jazz (though I've seen a few at PA who say they don't like jazz at all, yet jazz is such an important component of so very much prog). |
Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:41
| American Garage by Pat Metheny Group |
Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 00:56
| Miles Davis was unstoppable during his fusion period. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 03:52
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Since no-one has been saying much about GAZEUSE, let me put in another word for Gary Burton's 1970s solo albums, which feature the great Burton himself on vibes, the great Eberhard Weber on bass, and the great Pat Metheny (while still in his teens) on guitar. Among other players. Of course I'm thinking here about RING and PASSENGERS. Both ECM, but l-i-v-e-l-y! It seems pretty obvious to me that if anyone loves GAZEUSE, THE GRAND WAZOO and BLACK MARKET (as The Quiet One does), they're gonna love these as well.
By the way, oh Quiet One, is the Who your favourite rock band? |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 08:54
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Gazeuse! ------------- 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:00
| I don't have the RTF or MO albums listed here, so won't vote. Much love for Hiromi and Gong though. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:34
Yeah, we should! That one and the debut(of the Group not Metheny solo).
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:36
No, The Who is not my favorite rock band, that's Deep Purple. But The Who were one of the first 70's bands I loved, so indeed they hold a special place in my heart.
I assume you asked because of my username. I did take it from The Who song, not a big fan of the song but I can really relate myself with the lyrics
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 22:10
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I have to go with Time Control. The musicianship on that album is just fantastic.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 18 2010 at 22:22
I knew you would vote for that
 Listened to it today, it's awesome. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 04:59
| Where Have I Known You Before - Return to Forever |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 19 2010 at 07:51
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Wow, I actually have most of those, and I'm not really a jazz or fusion nut. So suffice to say you've got good tastes in fusion.
I went with Gazeuse! because it's a simply stunning piece of music, both from the guitar angle and from the mallet percussion angle. And the songs are good and memorable. I played the heck out of this album when I discovered it when it first appeared on CD. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Pete A.
Date Posted: February 22 2010 at 22:55
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Soft Machine Seven is much under appreciated. Especially Side Two (on vinyl), which to me sounds like Kraftwerk playing Miles Davis. The musicians sound as if they are in a trance. Way ahead of it's time!! Am I the only person who hears this?
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 22 2010 at 23:06
No, you're not. Why do you think it's one of my favorite jazz rock records?
 It's indeed sublime. The duo of Ratledge and Jenkins did fantastic stuff.
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Posted By: Pete A.
Date Posted: February 23 2010 at 16:52
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Sorry if I'm a little touchy about SM Seven. I've read so many reviews about the Softs that totally write off any of their LPs after "Four". ( Same with the Mahavishnus after "Birds of Fire". ) Glad to hear that you're familiar with the subtlety of SM"Seven". At least there's two of us. Perigeo released a couple of Jazz rock fusion LPs in the mid 70s that also seemed to achieve an intimate trance-like subtlety. A few years ago, my son had a screen saver with some New Age type music in the background. I was amazed to find out it was Jenkins and Ratledge!!!
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