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moodyxadi
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Topic: The Other Three Posted: February 19 2008 at 14:59 |
Man, don't put Zappa in your list. Only in prog territories Zappa is considered a prog musician/ artist. Never saw a bad review of zappa in any of the magazines/places where prog rock is burn in a stake.
VdGG is a must. if you write a historic report, you should include Soft Machine and the Moodies. If you want to be a patriot, put Kansas in the bag. If you want to attract attention of future listeners, put DT and other pseudoprog band of nowadays (PT, e.g.).
Good luck. Be careful with emos and hip-hoppers reaction.
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Bach, Ma, Bros, Déia, Dante.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: February 19 2008 at 12:32 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Out of the bands you've suggested I think these 10 are the most influentual/important. (I know you've decided on your first seven so thethree in bold are the three I'd choose to include).
ELP Genesis Yes King Crimson Pink Floyd Gentle Giant VDGG Soft Machine The Moody Blues Gong
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You took Rush out. Without Rush, there would be no Dream Theater.
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The Pessimist
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Posted: February 13 2008 at 07:09 |
Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle Giant and Supertramp would be my suggestions. Good luck with your project.
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Arnold Schoenberg
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progrules
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Posted: February 12 2008 at 02:18 |
It all depends on what the ultimate goal of the top 10 is. You say it will have to be the classic ones, in that case they have all been mentioned. You could also measure the 10 greatest so far on progarchives. Not too long ago I did a small investigation and added all ratings of all the great progressive bands (studio albums) and this is the top 13 of that research project (you could say: the 13 most popular progbands according to the visitors of this site):
1. Pink Floyd
2. Genesis
3. Yes
4. Dream Theater
5. King Crimson
6. Rush
7. Porcupine Tree
8. Jethro Tull
9. Camel
10. Marillion
11. Gentle Giant
12. ELP
13. VDGG
I mention 13 because of two reasons: 1) They stick out compared to no.14 and the rest (1108/672)
2) If you really want the classic bands you will have to omit DT, PT and Marillion and you have the top 10.
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acelxpro
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Posted: February 05 2008 at 21:49 |
I'd say start with the big names: Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, then move onto some bands from other countries like Eloy or Focus or PFM and finally move onto the neo prog: Marillion, Spock's beard, Flower kings.
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el böthy
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 20:44 |
jajaja Ah, we have all mezmerized, bored, stupified our classmates with Prog, haven´t we? jejeje good times
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Philip
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 12:44 |
I think Gentle Giant must be one of those bands. They explored obscured territories that any other band ever explored.
Camel, because I just love their music.
Dream Theater. Not my favourite style but the main representers of Prog metal.
The fourth band , i really can't decide between Frank Zappa (no presentation needed) or Premiata Forneria Marconi as the best representers of Italian prog Rock, in my opinion.
Edited by Philip - February 02 2008 at 12:47
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 12:58 |
This poll should be of interest to you.
It looks from this that Camel, VDGG, and Gentle Giant are the ones that stirred up the most interest.
Please note that I did not forget about Caravan when I was coming up with candidates. 
Edited by ghost_of_morphy - February 01 2008 at 13:00
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: January 30 2008 at 13:52 |
Camel and VDGG would seem to be the obvious ones, much as I'd love to suggest Colosseum or Supertramp or something more fusiony, Gentle Giant or Zappa should fill the final slot. I think Rush are pretty vital though.
Edited by TGM: Orb - January 30 2008 at 13:53
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MusicalSalmacis
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 18:24 |
If you remove Rush, bring in Zappa, and possibly Camel, VdGG, Caravan, Magma or Gentle Giant, maybe even Dream Theater (as an example of the progmetal movement)
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anoah
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 16:58 |
I think I am going to remove Rush (sorry rushfan4). So that leaves me space for four others. The choice of using ten is somewhat arbitrary, but it's a nice round number and I do want to limit myself a little. It's a 45 minute report on the whole of prog. I have to condense every word on this website down to 45 minutes, so I'm choosing 10. I am gonna' mention neo-prog and krautrock, giving examples of the bands, etc., so I'm hesitant to use bands like Ozric Tentacles or Amon Duul II. I know they were both very important, but, compared to Yes or Pink Floyd... I know, someone's going to argue that they're more important, or that my choices were based on popularity, but let's face it. I can only choose 10.
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rushfan4
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 16:47 |
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MusicalSalmacis
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 16:32 |
Zappa is a must, and then i'd say Camel, VdGG and Gentle Giant are also important
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BaldJean
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 16:21 |
efoman wrote:
I would say VDGG for sure. The probably Camel and Gentle Giant. But if you wanted to lend some perspective you could include Marillion as the next generation. |
for next generation I would rather choose the Ozric Tentacles. but that's just my personal taste
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efoman
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 16:11 |
I would say VDGG for sure. The probably Camel and Gentle Giant. But if you wanted to lend some perspective you could include Marillion as the next generation.
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ES335
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 14:36 |
I'd replace Rush with Zappa, then ask yourself why it has to be ten. Does it have to be ten, or did you decide you want ten?
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stonebeard
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 13:56 |
Remove Rush for the reasons Jean provided. Add: VdGG Can Soft Machine or Caravan Tangerine Dream (   )
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Norbert
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 08:39 |
Frank Zappa, VDGG, Gentle Giant, PFM, Le Orme, Banco,Magma, Caravan woud be all good.
You may get rid of Rush to create one more free place..
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BaldJean
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 05:25 |
Rush does in my opinion not belong with the others, because they did
not enter the game before 1974, when all the others had been around
for a few years already. so kick out Rush and throw in Gentle Giant, Van der Graaf Generator, Gong and Amon Düül 2. Soft Machine, Guru Guru, Magma or Embryo would be good choices too. Embryo is definitely the most underrated band out there; they were one of the very first Krautrock bands, are still around and highly original. they deserve a lot more attention and are in my opinion up with bands like Gong, Magma or VdGG
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Raff
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 02:53 |
micky wrote:
The Moodys, VDGG, and Caravan
shame on all of you for not thinking of Caravan.
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