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Poll Question: RIO... Any takers?
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    Posted: March 28 2005 at 20:41
I would like to get into some Rock in Opposition, but the only band near that area I enjoy is The Muffins, who were always on the canterbury side of RIO anyway
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the typical RIO is chamber music, having contemporary classical elements; ex.: univers zero, henry cow and zappa's classical work

canterbury comes with hatfield & the north, caravan, khan & soft machine: fender rhodes and unique guitar-keyboards combination.

 



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Originally posted by topographic2112 topographic2112 wrote:

Most of the time I can't even tell the difference between Canterbury and RIO music.


A little does confuse

Cantabians Robert Wyatt's End Of An Ear (possibly the first RIO album???) and Hugh Hopper 1984 are RIO
Henry Cow Legend is Canterbury styled - strong links to Machine's Volume 2 and Third musically . And coincidently, just reached that part of Mike Barnes' excellent biog on Captain Beefheart,  where Cowian Fred Frith was talking about Trout Mask's influences.

But check out the ReR's catalogue for a fuller range of 70's to 90's RIO.
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RIO is one of those subgenres which I know next to nothing about. I know ABOUT the bands, like Beefheart, Zappa, Henry Cow etc, but I'd like to get into them. However, they're certainly not the easiest guys to get to know are they?
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Henry cow!
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What about : Strictly Genteel, Yellow Shark, Jazz From Hell...
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people don't like RIO: the proof:

they never talk about Zappa's orchestral favorites, studio tan and perfect strangers albums!
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Most of the time I can't even tell the difference between Canterbury and RIO music.
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I tend toward less dark avant. Either more zappaesque humorus stuff or just some bright atmospheric stuff... I forgot to mention some good Italians Picchio dal Pozzo, Opus Avantra, Pierrot Lunaire (Gudrun album)... Haven't heard Stormy Six yet.
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I like RIO to some extent but I listen to it only occasionaly.  The music can sometimes sound too academic but there are a lot of more accessible and relaxed avant bands.

I like these: Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Samla Mammas Manna, Isidulrs Bane (is it avant?), Horizont (symphonic+RIO), Jono el grande (a great new artist), Begnagrad, Zappa, French TV... Thinking Plague is also not bad...
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Originally posted by Spartacus Spartacus wrote:

The RIO genre should be more widely accepted in the prog community, since it embraces the spirit of musical adventurism the prog genre once beheld.

Two of the most interesting and forgoten aboutmodern  RIO bands are Present and Birdsongs of the Mesozoic.  Both give hope to the spirit of going where no musicians have gone before.  The Present is recommended to anyone who enjoys adventerous dark prog. 

Present is very adventurous listening. I own first three albums. I recommend new group Ahvak, they recorded their debut in 2004.
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The RIO genre should be more widely accepted in the prog community, since it embraces the spirit of musical adventurism the prog genre once beheld.

Two of the most interesting and forgoten aboutmodern  RIO bands are Present and Birdsongs of the Mesozoic.  Both give hope to the spirit of going where no musicians have gone before.  The Present is recommended to anyone who enjoys adventerous dark prog. 

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Let's see -

Current UK main opposition party = the Conservatives

Therefore, Rock In Opposition = conservative rock

Therefore, Rock In Opposition = Bryan Adams, perhaps?

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5uu's ... if you like avant prog/RIO, check out 5uu's. Especially the Crisis
in Clay album. Absolutely fantastic.
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Into RIO since the late 70s, still a huge fan. Henry Cow and Univers Zero are my favourites, but all of the original RIO acts were sublime and brilliant - Art Zoyd, Etron Fou Leloublan, Stormy 6 and Sammla Mammas Manna (later also Art Bears). Chris Cutler's excellent Recommended Records, initiated partly to provide some distribution for those sadly neglected European bands, introduced me to music, books and ideas I would never have encountered otherwise. This is real alternative rock, stuff they never play on the radio, and most of the key players are still going strong after decades of commercial indifference. Today's market led music industry has no place for this, which makes it all the more valuable.
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Let's see -

Current UK main opposition party = the Conservatives

Therefore, Rock In Opposition = conservative rock

Therefore, Rock In Opposition = Bryan Adams, perhaps?

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I still need to look into Univers Zero... 5uus is another favourite of mine. Hunger's Teeth is fantastic!
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Points: 7456 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2005 at 12:54
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

As long as they do not overdo things and complicate for the sake of complicating.


Couldn't agree more. I saw Henry Cow many moons ago.
Their perfomance that night was more like The Legs-Akimbo 'acting' troupe from The League of Gentlemen!
It took me years to appreciate them again. It was Fred Frith's solo albums that got me back on track.

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Points: 3300 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2005 at 12:49
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