Rock In Opposition
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Topic: Rock In Opposition
Posted By: The Hemulen
Subject: Rock In Opposition
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 10:08
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I've been a RIO
fan for a couple of years now. It didn't thrill me at first, but I was
intrigued enough to give it some time. It clicked eventually though,
and I'm so glad it did. I've recently been listening to Absolute Zero's
astonishing album "Crashing Icons" and felt compelled to make this
poll.Obviously RIO is not for everyone, but I'm sure I can't be the only fan on this forum. So tell me - d'ya love it or hate it?! |
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Posted By: Lark´s Vomit
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 10:10
In Opposition Of What ???????????? 
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 10:14
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I'm on the opposition right now, so maybe it can be of my taste... ------------- Please forgive me for my crappy english! |
Posted By: Lark´s Vomit
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 10:15
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Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 10:22
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RIO/avant-prog is definitely an interesting sub-genre.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 10:34
| henry cow is the most complex and virtuose band |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 11:02
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As long as they do not overdo things and complicate for the sake of complicating. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 12:49
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univers zero rules ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 12:54
Couldn't agree more. I saw Henry Cow many moons ago. Their perfomance that night was more like The Legs-Akimbo 'acting' troupe from The League of Gentlemen! It took me years to appreciate them again. It was Fred Frith's solo albums that got me back on track. ------------- 
Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Sean Trane wrote:Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 13:04
| I still need to look into Univers Zero... 5uus is another favourite of mine. Hunger's Teeth is fantastic! |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 14:00
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Let's see -
Current UK main opposition party = the Conservatives Therefore, Rock In Opposition = conservative rock Therefore, Rock In Opposition = Bryan Adams, perhaps? ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 14:25
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Into RIO since the late 70s, still a huge fan. Henry Cow and Univers Zero are my favourites, but all of the original RIO acts were sublime and brilliant - Art Zoyd, Etron Fou Leloublan, Stormy 6 and Sammla Mammas Manna (later also Art Bears). Chris Cutler's excellent Recommended Records, initiated partly to provide some distribution for those sadly neglected European bands, introduced me to music, books and ideas I would never have encountered otherwise. This is real alternative rock, stuff they never play on the radio, and most of the key players are still going strong after decades of commercial indifference. Today's market led music industry has no place for this, which makes it all the more valuable. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 02:02
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5uu's ... if you like avant prog/RIO, check out 5uu's. Especially the Crisis
in Clay album. Absolutely fantastic. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 02:32
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Ya Lookin' fo' Trouble, Man? ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Spartacus
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 13:52
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The RIO genre should be more widely accepted in the prog community, since it embraces the spirit of musical adventurism the prog genre once beheld. Two of the most interesting and forgoten aboutmodern RIO bands are Present and Birdsongs of the Mesozoic. Both give hope to the spirit of going where no musicians have gone before. The Present is recommended to anyone who enjoys adventerous dark prog. |
Posted By: Hiwatter
Date Posted: March 26 2005 at 13:29
Present is very adventurous listening. I own first three albums. I recommend new group Ahvak, they recorded their debut in 2004. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 26 2005 at 14:10
Great stuff  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: March 27 2005 at 17:24
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I like RIO to some
extent but I listen to it only occasionaly. The music can
sometimes sound too academic but there are a lot of more accessible and
relaxed avant bands. I like these: Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Samla Mammas Manna, Isidulrs Bane (is it avant?), Horizont (symphonic+RIO), Jono el grande (a great new artist), Begnagrad, Zappa, French TV... Thinking Plague is also not bad... |
Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: March 27 2005 at 17:29
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I tend toward less
dark avant. Either more zappaesque humorus stuff or just some bright
atmospheric stuff... I forgot to mention some good Italians Picchio dal
Pozzo, Opus Avantra, Pierrot Lunaire (Gudrun album)... Haven't heard
Stormy Six yet. |
Posted By: topographic2112
Date Posted: March 27 2005 at 17:36
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Most of the time I can't even tell the difference between Canterbury and RIO music. ------------- "Rock is the medium of our generation." - Yes - "Release, Release" |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 27 2005 at 20:25
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people don't like RIO: the proof: they never talk about Zappa's orchestral favorites, studio tan and perfect strangers albums! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: March 28 2005 at 03:54
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What about : Strictly Genteel, Yellow Shark, Jazz From Hell... |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 28 2005 at 03:59
| Henry cow! |
Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: March 28 2005 at 04:35
RIO is one of those subgenres which I know next to nothing about. I know ABOUT the bands, like Beefheart, Zappa, Henry Cow etc, but I'd like to get into them. However, they're certainly not the easiest guys to get to know are they?  ------------- And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..." Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 28 2005 at 18:53
A little does confuse Cantabians Robert Wyatt's End Of An Ear (possibly the first RIO album???) and Hugh Hopper 1984 are RIO Henry Cow Legend is Canterbury styled - strong links to Machine's Volume 2 and Third musically . And coincidently, just reached that part of Mike Barnes' excellent biog on Captain Beefheart, where Cowian Fred Frith was talking about Trout Mask's influences. But check out the ReR's catalogue for a fuller range of 70's to 90's RIO. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 28 2005 at 20:23
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the typical RIO is chamber music, having contemporary classical elements; ex.: univers zero, henry cow and zappa's classical work canterbury comes with hatfield & the north, caravan, khan & soft machine: fender rhodes and unique guitar-keyboards combination.
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Posted By: beterdedthnred4
Date Posted: March 28 2005 at 20:41
| I would like to get into some Rock in Opposition, but the only band near that area I enjoy is The Muffins, who were always on the canterbury side of RIO anyway |