Apple Computer?

Trademark wrote: BTW Max Matthews (the founder of MAX/MSP) wouldn't be cought dead using a PC. MAX is designed for native use on the Mac. I've used it regularly for 4 years and never had a crash.

I'm afraid Max Matthews isn't the founder of either MAX or MSP - the software he wrote (MUSIC) was originally written in the '50s and hence predates Macs by a good twenty five years!

Miller Puckette did indeed originally write MAX for the Macintosh (which makes it all the more surprising that I've never seen a single crash on Windows!), but most of its later developments such as FTS and MSP were written for UNIX systems in the years before Macs moved over to a Mach kernel.

Pd (perhaps the software he's most heavily involved in these days, but I couldn't be sure), upon which MSP is largely based, was open source from the start and thus ported to most modern operating systems.

However, all of this is rather off-topic since Peter has a computer he's happy with

I'll tell you what though: upgrading to a 22" monitor rocks -- great definition, & very easy to read!

rileydog22 wrote: Peter wrote:   Cost me just under 2000 Canadian (that's a little over $2000 US) Shut up.

pwnt

Peter wrote:   Cost me just under 2000 Canadian (that's a little over $2000 US)

Shut up. 


Edited by rileydog22 - November 16 2007 at 23:30

Trademark wrote: People say the don't freeze because they don'tr freeze. I use Photoshop, MOTU Digital Perfornmer, Final Cut, Finale etc. 5-6 hours a day every day and I've never had a freeze up. EVER! Your loss Peter, you had the chance to get a Ferrari and you chose the Yugo instead.

I have had plenty of crashes on OS X, running on G4s (or maybe G5s), using MAX/MSP and Logic 5, neither of which I've ever seen problems with on Windows. That startup sound became the bane of my life last year. Happily this year I admin the computers at work, and while every single one has crashed in a variety of colourful ways (apart from the very newest PC) they've always been fixable by me.

Anecdotal evidence means nothing, the only important thing is what works for your individual needs. Well, that and personal freedoms but that's an entirely separate issue. Since MOTU are intent on locking everyone into OS X  you couldn't use anything else even if you wanted to .

RKS1987 wrote: I consider is an unfair comparison, if anything mac is a yugo and a pc is a ferrari.

As far as I've managed to find out, you can drive both on a PC and neither on a Mac.

Peter,
Congratulations on the new machine!  Enjoy.

Mine too!

If you are suggesting a PC is a Yugo and a Mac is a Ferrari you should probably reexamine your life. 

I just don't get when people say that macs don't freeze. My high school used top of the line macs in its design department and they always froze and had a bunch of issues with Photoshop.