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Topic: Is Emerson, Lake & Palmer boring? Posted: January 03 2008 at 11:51 |
jimmy_row wrote:
I think that KE9 could be boring to someone who doesn't "get" what's going on. The first several times I heard it I didn't make it halfway through because there didn't to be any semblance of direction after the second part (of course I know better now)...just depends on what someone is accustomed to hearing. ELP were so over-the-top that it's sort of funny to think of them as boring but IMO there's several bands around here that people hang the 'boring' tag on that are far more engaging than ELP while being less "in your face". |
I couldn't agree more.... in fact... regardless of how lyrically the various impressions are tied together.. it is the apparent (to me.. but can always stand to be educated) musical disconnect between them that keeps me from hailing the piece as a whole on the level (other than shear display of musical....chops) of other major work by other groups.
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Posted: January 03 2008 at 11:27 |
I think that KE9 could be boring to someone who doesn't "get" what's going on. The first several times I heard it I didn't make it halfway through because there didn't to be any semblance of direction after the second part (of course I know better now)...just depends on what someone is accustomed to hearing. ELP were so over-the-top that it's sort of funny to think of them as boring but IMO there's several bands around here that people hang the 'boring' tag on that are far more engaging than ELP while being less "in your face".
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Posted: January 03 2008 at 07:05 |
I've never neen a fan, but boring is not really a word to describe them. Tarkus, for example is far from boring! This is their finest hour in my opinion.
I generally dont find myself inspired to listen to ELP. For me, it feels like that have a some good ideas that they dont develop in a way that appeals to me. Too many ballads, too much pomp and classical influence; not enough darkness, atmosphere or ambience. It seems also that the lack of lead guitar is often inadequately compensated for by the other instruments. VDGG are a good example of how guitar can be routinely absent from the music, but not missed because of how the other instruments - mainly the sax - are used in it's place.
That said, ELP are clearly excellent musicians.
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Posted: January 02 2008 at 18:24 |
Boring? No. Overrated? Probably not. However, I think they have too many hit or miss compositions. Seems to me at times you had 3 large egos in sync and then 3 large egos trying to drown each other out... They certainly deserve the kudos for expanding rock music at the time, though.
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Posted: January 02 2008 at 18:06 |
wow.... can think any adjective can be thrown at ELP and stick... but this one... that in a perverse way is why they can never be thought of as boring... can blow your shoes off one moment.. or have you pulling your hair out another...
one moment want to break bad and kick some ass.... another moment you want to snuggle with that someone special and get it on.
boring ..pfff...
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Posted: January 02 2008 at 17:15 |
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Posted: January 02 2008 at 16:57 |
I would think you would need some serious case of ADD to find them boring. I could see them being too overblown for you, but not boring. Eitherway they're neither. Great band. Never will understand their detractors.
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Posted: January 02 2008 at 16:49 |
"Emerson Lake and Palmer" is not boring, they are fantastic
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Posted: January 02 2008 at 16:46 |
I generally don't think they are boring.
Their instrumental skills are according to me among the best there are.
Their compositions are great. The only problem is that the dark and
rather unpolished sound that I think defines them sometimes becomes a
bit dull.
Still, I consider them one of my favourite bands, absolutely! I am
often astonished by their virtuosity, mainly. And think they're just
great!
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Posted: October 27 2006 at 01:49 |
Hell no!!
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 08:59 |
They're not boring.
When they're good they're fantastic (Karn Evil 9, Tarkus, Pictures, Trilogy, Endless Enigma etc.), but when they're not (Benny the Bouncer, Are You Ready Eddie etc.) they're bloody awful!
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 08:43 |
When Emerson is given too much rope, they come up with things I find rather annoying (say, Toccata, When the apple blossoms bloom..., The Three Fates, Piano Concerto and his "electric clavinet" extravaganzas).
On the other hand, I think Greg Lake is a great singer and an interesting songwriter: thus, when Emerson,Lake and Palmer produce organic SONGS, they are absoultely enjoyable (I consider Take a Pebble, Trilogy, The Endless Enigma outstanding, and also longer efforts like Tarkus, Memoirs of an Officer and Gentleman and Karn Evil 9 are great).
So I can't vote, because there are SOME things I find boring and SOME OTHERS that are not...
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 08:14 |
Pulse wrote:
Their post-Brain Salad Surgery stuff is really boring, but everything before that is great.
I don't understand how anyone could say Tarkus, Endless Enigma, and Karn Evil 9 could ever be considered boring. They're so full of energy and life. |
I'll second that.
After "Brain, salad,surgery, ELP weren't the same and should have opted for retirement. That was the point when they became boring, kind of irrelevant.
Previoously though, they were the most full on and exciting outfit Prog histrory had known.
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 07:00 |
Ghandi 2 wrote:
really repetitive |
so? take a look at the "progressive rock" definition 
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 06:55 |
It's difficult to say "Yes" or "No", as some part of their material are boring, but the good ones are not IMO.
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 06:53 |
They are not in the least bit boring.
This poll, and the like are outrages.
Only polls like this are BORING. 
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 06:44 |
For example - Is "Toccata" boring????
I think many ELP enemies have never heard that band...
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Posted: October 25 2006 at 19:39 |
Their post-Brain Salad Surgery stuff is really boring, but everything before that is great.
I don't understand how anyone could say Tarkus, Endless Enigma, and Karn Evil 9 could ever be considered boring. They're so full of energy and life.
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Posted: October 25 2006 at 18:57 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
They are only boring to those boring people who find them boring.[IMG>height=17 alt="Stern Smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley22.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>
I'm bored with these kinds of polls, though.... |
o rly?
I used to really like them, but now I find them a bit dull. Karn Evil 9 is really repetitive, and I find it very revealing that two of the best songs on BSS aren't even ones that they actually wrote. Emerson is still a better keyboardist than Wakeman, though. :P
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Posted: October 25 2006 at 18:44 |
No, not at all !!
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