Is Emerson, Lake & Palmer boring?
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Topic: Is Emerson, Lake & Palmer boring?
Posted By: Wutu Banale
Subject: Is Emerson, Lake & Palmer boring?
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 09:56
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Okay. I have discussed about this with few of my friends and now i ask your opinion.
What do i mean by "Boring"?
Is their instrumentation boring? You don't like how they play?
Is their sound boring, like if they mix their sound in an non-interresting fashion?
And the big one, are their compositions boring? With all the synths and almost no guitar at all?
So is their musiv boring to listen to?
I vote no. ELP does not play boring music.
(Sorry for using the whole long name, i think it sounds pretty good). ------------- Käsittämättömän käsittämätöntä Suurta ja arvostettavaa. |
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 09:59
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long classical-like songs (Karn Evil) may be boring to some, i admit, but not to me, as i am used to classical music and listen to it on regular basis. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:04
| Yes, boring to me. An over-rated band IMO. |
Posted By: Vasil Jalabadze
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:06
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YES
Except Turkus
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:14
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ELP are not boring. They inspired so many italian prog bands during the seventies...how could I say their music is boring?
Cold and maybe too much formalistic sometimes, but never boring!
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:16
I love ELP I don`t care what some people think because I play them lots and enjoy them 
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Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:16
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Seeing as I often mix the PA for an ELP tribute band I may be biassed. I'd say no, they are definitely not boring.
http://www.noddyspuncture.co.uk - www.noddyspuncture.co.uk ------------- When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory. |
Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:19
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By the way. If you want to see Noddy's Puncture they are playing on Saturday night in Rochdale. ------------- When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory. |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:40
Yes, they inspired them to copy the keyboards sections / style, and keep it as a steady component. Say, even I can mimc those short keyboard prhases (¡tun, tun, tun, tun, tuntún!). Ater one hundreed spins, and after their failure at creating something beyond their own cliches, yes, they are boring indeed. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Andrea Cortese wrote:Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:50
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I didn't vote because sometimes ELP are boring, sometimes they aren't.
Strange how they've divided everyone else's opinion!
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:53
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God, No!!!!!! They are too much!  |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 11:01
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overall, no, but I do have a grundge against their sometime unciseled material and, in the 90s, against the pseudo-comeback, giving 5-6 live albums of the same material (and only two studio refreshments, the first being okay, but the second being a practical joke).
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 11:11
As long as Lake keeps his trap shut, I don't find them too boring! 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 12:40
| Not really. Pretty overrated though. |
Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 13:32
Oh yes, they are sooo boring.....zzzzzz......songs like: the barbarian, take a pebble, three fates, tarkus, endless enigma, toccata, karn evil 9....pffffff
One of the reasons I like them is the energy and power they have in their music(often a sort of metal-like approach to the music, which is kinda cool I think).
ELP isn't boring........dated perhaps, as a fan i'd say charming(except for that bloody Yamaha GX-1 keyboard
 ). But their best compositions are total masterpieces in the progressive rock genre, imo.
(you have to remember that prog as a musical style(approach?) was still in 'embryo state' and ELP was one of the first bands to define that genre, so bravo ELP!)
It's just that ELP had to quit completely after the Works vol.1 album/tour imo(with that album and tour everything was said and done, musically speaking).
Now, neo-progressive that's boring
 ps: oh yeah and Emerson, Lake & Palmer sounds pretty cool!
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Posted By: blindtoad
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 13:41
Take a Pebble is a great composition, the background piano solo is so great... if it's boring all calssical piano etude or composition are boring... bu they_re not boring so... Love ELP! ------------- quelqu'un pour un jam? blindtoad = Poor english... |
Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 13:50
My comment on that was ironic
 Take a pebble is one of the best things they've ever done(ever seen the live version from the 'masters from the vaults' dvd?, that's a wonderfull version
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Posted By: Progressive??
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 14:01
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they are not boring at all.
in fact, I think they are underrated. (IMO Genesis is overrated), Brain Salad Surgery should be in the top ten albums.
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Posted By: Hatters
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 14:28
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Errrr. NO! Try Tarkus if you think the others are boring, it is more conventional Prog. -------------  http://www.last.fm/user/SHatters/?chartstyle=basic10"> 
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Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 14:32
Progressive? for president! As a fan I would like to see that one day Brain Salad Surgery will appear as the no.1 in the top 100 of progarchives
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 15:09
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I don't think they're boring. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 16:14
They are only boring to those boring people who find them boring.
I'm bored with these kinds of polls, though.... ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 16:21
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Their music is so complicated and there's so much cool stuff from all three instruments to listen to that it's pretty hard for me to get bored listening to ELP. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 18:33
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I can understand why people might think them overated.... but 'boring' ...NOOOOOO!!!!
...anything but IMO.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 18:39
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Not in the least.
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 18:44
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No, not at all !! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 18:57
o rly? I used to really like them, but now I find them a bit dull. Karn Evil 9 is really repetitive, and I find it very revealing that two of the best songs on BSS aren't even ones that they actually wrote. Emerson is still a better keyboardist than Wakeman, though. :P |
Posted By: Pulse
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 19:39
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Their post-Brain Salad Surgery stuff is really boring, but everything before that is great.
I don't understand how anyone could say Tarkus, Endless Enigma, and Karn Evil 9 could ever be considered boring. They're so full of energy and life.
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 06:44
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For example - Is "Toccata" boring???? I think many ELP enemies have never heard that band... |
Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 06:53
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They are not in the least bit boring.
This poll, and the like are outrages.
Only polls like this are BORING.  ------------- Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005 |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 06:55
| It's difficult to say "Yes" or "No", as some part of their material are boring, but the good ones are not IMO. |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 07:00
so? take a look at the "progressive rock" definition ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: S Lang
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 08:14
I'll second that.
After "Brain, salad,surgery, ELP weren't the same and should have opted for retirement. That was the point when they became boring, kind of irrelevant.
Previoously though, they were the most full on and exciting outfit Prog histrory had known.
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 08:43
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When Emerson is given too much rope, they come up with things I find rather annoying (say, Toccata, When the apple blossoms bloom..., The Three Fates, Piano Concerto and his "electric clavinet" extravaganzas).
On the other hand, I think Greg Lake is a great singer and an interesting songwriter: thus, when Emerson,Lake and Palmer produce organic SONGS, they are absoultely enjoyable (I consider Take a Pebble, Trilogy, The Endless Enigma outstanding, and also longer efforts like Tarkus, Memoirs of an Officer and Gentleman and Karn Evil 9 are great). So I can't vote, because there are SOME things I find boring and SOME OTHERS that are not... ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: Dee Dee Ramone
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 08:59
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They're not boring.
When they're good they're fantastic (Karn Evil 9, Tarkus, Pictures, Trilogy, Endless Enigma etc.), but when they're not (Benny the Bouncer, Are You Ready Eddie etc.) they're bloody awful!
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 01:49
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Hell no!! ------------- 
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Posted By: mazzaurg
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 16:46
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I generally don't think they are boring. Their instrumental skills are according to me among the best there are. Their compositions are great. The only problem is that the dark and rather unpolished sound that I think defines them sometimes becomes a bit dull. Still, I consider them one of my favourite bands, absolutely! I am often astonished by their virtuosity, mainly. And think they're just great! 
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 16:49
"Emerson Lake and Palmer" is not boring, they are fantastic 
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 16:57
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I would think you would need some serious case of ADD to find them boring. I could see them being too overblown for you, but not boring. Eitherway they're neither. Great band. Never will understand their detractors. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: proger
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 17:15
same for me ------------- ...live for tomorrow... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 18:06
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wow.... can think any adjective can be thrown at ELP and stick... but this one... that in a perverse way is why they can never be thought of as boring... can blow your shoes off one moment.. or have you pulling your hair out another... one moment want to break bad and kick some ass.... another moment you want to snuggle with that someone special and get it on. boring ..pfff... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: khammer99
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 18:24
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Boring? No. Overrated? Probably not. However, I think they have too many hit or miss compositions. Seems to me at times you had 3 large egos in sync and then 3 large egos trying to drown each other out... They certainly deserve the kudos for expanding rock music at the time, though. ------------- Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up. - Terry Pratchett |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 07:05
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I've never neen a fan, but boring is not really a word to describe them. Tarkus, for example is far from boring! This is their finest hour in my opinion.
I generally dont find myself inspired to listen to ELP. For me, it feels like that have a some good ideas that they dont develop in a way that appeals to me. Too many ballads, too much pomp and classical influence; not enough darkness, atmosphere or ambience. It seems also that the lack of lead guitar is often inadequately compensated for by the other instruments. VDGG are a good example of how guitar can be routinely absent from the music, but not missed because of how the other instruments - mainly the sax - are used in it's place. That said, ELP are clearly excellent musicians. |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 11:27
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I think that KE9 could be boring to someone who doesn't "get" what's going on. The first several times I heard it I didn't make it halfway through because there didn't to be any semblance of direction after the second part (of course I know better now)...just depends on what someone is accustomed to hearing. ELP were so over-the-top that it's sort of funny to think of them as boring but IMO there's several bands around here that people hang the 'boring' tag on that are far more engaging than ELP while being less "in your face". ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 11:51
I couldn't agree more.... in fact... regardless of how lyrically the various impressions are tied together.. it is the apparent (to me.. but can always stand to be educated) musical disconnect between them that keeps me from hailing the piece as a whole on the level (other than shear display of musical....chops) of other major work by other groups. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |