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lightbulb_son
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Topic: Mastodon Progressive? Posted: October 01 2006 at 10:21 |
Yes they've finally been cleared, but does anyone know when they'll be up on the site? I've been crusading for their addition since I joined last spring, and I'm very glad to see the prog-metal team has decided to add them.
I can't wait until they're up here, I've got some reviews to do 
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: September 12 2006 at 17:24 |
As soon as you all listen to Blood Mountain, I'm sure you'll be convinced. Mastodon deserves a spot here.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 23:59 |
I'm not really a metal fan, but I do see a lot of activity in it. This could be the most active genre in prog right now. It's no wonder the guys are so busy, and adding new bands. I am also sure they don't take the task lightly.
It's hard to tell what goes on behind the scenes, in regard to content around here. Check the number of artists, and it might give you an idea. This is why there are teams, instead of individuals.
Kudos my PM chums.
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fezman
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 23:21 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Have you read through this thread???
Look at the 2nd page.
I don't mean to give you a hard time,but you are just posting the same stock response in every thread relating to Mastodon. |
No hard time taken. I mucked up and started a new thread (in the wrong spot) with the same info I've now posted on this thread. Basically I just really wanted to focus on the release of 'Blood Mountain' and what it is about their latest offering that could (or should) be described as progressive. Other than this topic I don't think I've posted on any others but I did respond a little while back to the poll in general. (Before getting to hear any of their new release) The official release date is tomorrow I think?
Sorry Progtologist if I've been keeping you busy or boring you with some repetition. Thanks for the great service you, and all administrators provide. 
Edited by fezman - September 12 2006 at 00:45
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SolariS
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 21:20 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
You can listen to their new album in it's entirety on Mastodon's MySpace page. |
I have. Several times!
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 20:19 |
fezman wrote:
I've seen the "Is Mastodon prog?" thread here before but that was before the release of their latest offering 'Blood Mountain'.
If the scope and style of this release doesn't get them on the
progarchives then nothing will. If Death can get a mention then I
don't see how Mastodon 'doesn't' fit into the prog metal scene. The
songs are certainly not on the long side (most over 4min with the last
track at 20min) but the fusion of differnt metal styles and general
experimentation of the release qualify it for sure. (IMHO) This is
also at least their 3rd themed release.
Even if you don't agree get into their new one as it is awesome!Go to their myspace for a full listen to the new CD.I know I started my own 'Blood Mountain' crusade and to make up for that I'll be throwing all my weight(not a lot actually) behind this tread
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Have you read through this thread???
Look at the 2nd page.
I don't mean to give you a hard time,but you are just posting the same stock response in every thread relating to Mastodon.
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 20:16 |
Leviathan is. Superb album!
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fezman
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 20:11 |
I've seen the "Is Mastodon prog?" thread here before but that was before the release of their latest offering 'Blood Mountain'.
If the scope and style of this release doesn't get them on the
progarchives then nothing will. If Death can get a mention then I
don't see how Mastodon 'doesn't' fit into the prog metal scene. The
songs are certainly not on the long side (most over 4min with the last
track at 20min but only because it has about 15min of silence) but the fusion of differnt metal styles and general
experimentation of the release qualify it for sure. (IMHO) This is
also at least their 3rd themed release.
Even if you don't agree get into their new one as it is awesome! Go to their myspace for a full listen to the new CD. I know I started my own 'Blood Mountain' crusade and to make up for that I'll be throwing all my weight(not a lot actually) behind this tread
Edited by fezman - September 20 2006 at 16:39
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 20:05 |
You can listen to their new album in it's entirety on Mastodon's MySpace page.
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SolariS
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 20:01 |
Rocktopus wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
Why are the intrests of Prog Folk more important than those of Prog Metal? If you want ISB added, I suggest you go heckle the proper genre team about it.
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1. I never said that (I feel its the other way around, with your big, hard working metalteam) 2. I have. (It was just an example.)
All that said, I do think an influential progfolkband of the late sixties, is much more improtant than yet another added so-called prog-metal band. I own both Leviathan and Blood Mountain. I know they're conceptalbums, but Mastodon is still thrash/death metal.
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WTF. How did you get a copy of Blood Mountain already. I live in Atlanta...where the band is from. I pre-ordered weeks ago and it just got mailed today. UNFAIR! ...and by the way. Yes, Mastodon plays thrash/death metal, but so does Opeth. It's the fact that they play it in a way that nobody else in thrash/death metal plays it that makes them progressive.
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 19:08 |
I used it as an example, Ghost Rider. I wasn't trying to blame them. But I was trying to say that I disagree on Mastodon's inclusion, based on owning their albums and having listened to the music.
The fact that the prog metal team is the hardest working team with the most members does not make me happy, because it means a lot of metal bands will wrongly get included (imo). So I'm defenatly not denying their dedication. Far from it.
I give up. I won't to bother complain about any inclusion ever again.
Edited by Rocktopus - September 11 2006 at 19:13
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:48 |
Rocktopus, Jody is right. It is not his fault neither his team members' if the PMT is more active than other teams in the actual inclusion of bands. Prog-Metal may not be my subgenre of choice (I actually prefer classic metal, but I'm trying to get to know at least some of the bands, and I've heard some really interesting things), but no one can deny the dedication that these guys are putting into their work on behalf of this site.
As to Prog-Folk, at the moment the team is a one-man operation - Sean Trane (Hugues) has been left alone to work, and he very probably has other priorities at the moment. This thread is not the right place to complain about the addition of ISB having not happened yet. It is certainly not the fault of the PM team, whose action is endorsed by the owners of the site.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:35 |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:28 |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:21 |
I think it is for everyone not part (or have been) of a prog-metal team, Mike.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 14:34 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Mastodon is still thrash/death metal.
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Well ... not really.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 14:22 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
Why are the intrests of Prog Folk more important than those of Prog Metal? If you want ISB added, I suggest you go heckle the proper genre team about it.
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1. I never said that (I feel its the other way around, with your big, hard working metalteam) 2. I have. (It was just an example.) All that said, I do think an influential progfolkband of the late sixties, is much more improtant than yet another added so-called prog-metal band. I own both Leviathan and Blood Mountain. I know they're conceptalbums, but Mastodon is still thrash/death metal.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 12:59 |
Rocktopus wrote:
I like Mastodon, as a great metalband. Best band I've heard since Slayer.
How come it takes ca. two days from someone starting this thread to get them cleared for inclusion? While a real, pioneering progfolk band like the Incredible String Band so far has taken about a year of thinking about? That's one of the reasons these endless metal inclusions really pisses me off.
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Why are the intrests of Prog Folk more important than those of Prog Metal? If you want ISB added, I suggest you go heckle the proper genre team about it.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 11:51 |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 09:41 |
You're working too hard, and being far too active for my tastes. Ha-ha.
I know its not your job to include ISB (or not), but this unbalance is still annoying. I think that far too much Prog-metal is being added. You explaining it by your team of specialists is extremly active, doesn't exactly help.
So if we only had a more active prog-related team, the site would have an invasion of bands in the Queen, ELO, Wishbone Ash etc.. vein?
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