90125 YeS

I must admit I've never liked them, probably because I couldn't stand Dave Lee Roth - either as a vocalist or as a man. Although I carry on about attractive musicians in almost every thread, he was one of these guys whom I almost found repulsive... And I hated his vocals with a passion.

<<I think that VH's last good album is Women And Children First.>>

Great album! The song that never gets mentioned, however, is "In A Simple Rhyme". How this song isn't on the tip of every VH fan's tongues is beyond me. Absolutely smokes.

I saw VH on the 1984 tour and the subsequent 5150 and OU812 (Monsters Of Rock with Kingdom Come, Metallica, Dokken and Scorpions) and I like the Sammy shows better. It became a lot less buffoonish without Roth.

And yes I know we've ventured off the prog path; however, Van Halen is one of those bands that transports me back to my childhood.

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 Good question. Maybe it has to be with the catalog number, as the other ones said before.

 

chimera wrote: well, it seems interesting to label an album with a producers code number. i think that it may also be a part of the marketing strategies (if ever existed for that time) ... by the way, any other xamples of PRoG-RoCK bands havind done this except the one mentioned above (Van Halen album "5150" is WB catalogue number "925 394-1 W5150) ?

Dave Davies of the Kinks put out AFL1-3063 just a couple years before 90125. This title references not only the catalog number, but the barcode itself. Barcodes were just becoming commonly used in consumer products about that time and were considered very controversial (at least in North America) because a lot of religious people believed that UPC codes were the 'mark of the beast'.

E-Dub wrote: <<IMO OU812 was their last good album. To try to keep to the topic: any idea what that name means? Also a policecode or catalog number?>> I don't know for sure, but I would think it's the numerical equivalent of "Oh, you ate one, too". They could've done better. E

That's what it actually means, or so I have read in a book. It was the band's answer to Dave Lee Roth's title of "Eat 'em and Smile".

There must be some strange coincidence here, since this morning at my local supermarket they were playing "Jump"...

<<IMO OU812 was their last good album. To try to keep to the topic: any idea what that name means? Also a policecode or catalog number?>>

Oh, I don't know about that. I think For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was a great disc, with "Right Now" being one of their best tunes. "This Dream Is Over" and "Pleasuredome" are also worth mentioning. Balance has its moments, but probably the weakest with Hagar. VH3, on the other hand, is quite simply a bad album. Cherone does nothing but growl, and the production is so weak. "Without You" is a good tune, but the rest is simply unlistenable.

I don't know for sure, but I would think it's the numerical equivalent of "Oh, you ate one, too". They could've done better.

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Moogtron III wrote: Intruder wrote: Atco Records (Yes' first for the label) catalouge number...90125-593922 or something like that.  The first digits of the ID # were 90125-......  Anybody know the story behind why they chose to title the album this way?     I think either they just ran out of creativity to give the album a proper name, or maybe they were influenced by new wave or mainstream music, which gave prog some sort of 'minimalist' touch (?). Genesis called their 1983 album "Genesis", that's also a very 'minimal' title. Just guessing, really.

Edited by Sean Trane - July 04 2006 at 10:27

mystic fred wrote: Very interesting question!!! "90125" is the ATCO catalogue number of the album (actually 79-0125-1). I presume they couldn't think up a title for the album! same for the Van Halen album "5150" is WB catalogue number "925 394-1 W5150".

5150 is also a US police code (look it up here: http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/polcodes.htm)

According to Chris Welch's "Close to the Edge - The Story of Yes" (p206) it was originally The New Yes Album" but they then decided to use what was expected to be the catalogue number to be minimalist.

i guess i had a disinformation rain...

sure, sounds reasonable (--->Moogtron III) ...