90125 YeS
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Topic: 90125 YeS
Posted By: chimera
Subject: 90125 YeS
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 04:43
can anyone tell me what the title "90125" of Yes' album stands for..?  something other than the once planned "90124" by one of the group members please...
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Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 04:57
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It's the catalog number for the album on Atlantic's catalog system, I believe. It's noted in the Yes Rhino Remastered & Expanded release that has a lot of liner notes.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 05:00
Very interesting question!!! "90125" is the ATCO catalogue number of the album (actually 79-0125-1). I presume they couldn't think up a title for the album! same for the Van Halen album "5150" is WB catalogue number "925 394-1 W5150".  -------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 05:02
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Atco Records (Yes' first for the label) catalouge number...90125-593922 or something like that. The first digits of the ID # were 90125-...... Anybody know the story behind why they chose to title the album this way?
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Posted By: chimera
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 05:11
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Posted By: chimera
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 05:14
| thx so far; so, is the "90124" of Trevor Rabin just a case of 'accident'? it was previously planned as "90124", and at that time 90125 was even not on the counter... |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 05:53
Is it? I think it's just Trevor's way of showing the original music which was to become 90125. That would make perfect sense.
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chimera wrote:Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 05:58
I think either they just ran out of creativity to give the album a proper name, or maybe they were influenced by new wave or mainstream music, which gave prog some sort of 'minimalist' touch (?). Genesis called their 1983 album "Genesis", that's also a very 'minimal' title. Just guessing, really.
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Posted By: chimera
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 06:04
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i guess i had a disinformation rain... sure, sounds reasonable (--->Moogtron III) ... |
Posted By: chimera
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 06:10
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well, it seems interesting to label an album with a producers code number. i think that it may also be a part of the marketing strategies (if ever existed for that time) ... by the way, any other xamples of PRoG-RoCK bands havind done this except the one mentioned above (Van Halen album "5150" is WB catalogue number "925 394-1 W5150) ? |
Posted By: CandyAppleRed
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 06:53
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According to Chris Welch's "Close to the Edge - The Story of Yes" (p206) it was originally The New Yes Album" but they then decided to use what was expected to be the catalogue number to be minimalist.
It appears that they were told it would be 90104 but that was then allocated to someone else so they relcutantly took 90125 - apparently Squire said it didn't sound as good as 90104.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 08:16
As far as I know, that album is named after Eddie's home studio... |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 08:18
5150 is also a US police code (look it up here: http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/polcodes.htm - http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/polcodes.htm )  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 08:30
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Mike beat me to it. 5150 (I believe) is the police code for the criminally insane. I like the title (still love that album, too); however, they got stupid with OU812. Good album, but a bit too goofy.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 09:11
Once Van Halen put out OU812 (pronounced: Oh! You ate one too?), I went back trying to see if there was no play on word , but could not find any
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 09:16
IMO OU812 was their last good album. To try to keep to the topic: any idea what that name means? Also a policecode or catalog number? |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 09:42
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<<IMO OU812 was their last good album. To try to keep to the topic: any idea what that name means? Also a policecode or catalog number?>>
Oh, I don't know about that. I think For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was a great disc, with "Right Now" being one of their best tunes. "This Dream Is Over" and "Pleasuredome" are also worth mentioning. Balance has its moments, but probably the weakest with Hagar. VH3, on the other hand, is quite simply a bad album. Cherone does nothing but growl, and the production is so weak. "Without You" is a good tune, but the rest is simply unlistenable. I don't know for sure, but I would think it's the numerical equivalent of "Oh, you ate one, too". They could've done better. E -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 09:47
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^ Balance had some fantastic songs, most notably "Feeling". F.U.C.K. was very nice, but somehow it left me cold ... I agree that the last really good album was OU812. Absolutely brilliant album, and it might very well be THE Van Halen album that can be recommended to Prog fans (I'm not saying that it's prog, but it has its moments).
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 09:54
That's what it actually means, or so I have read in a book. It was the band's answer to Dave Lee Roth's title of "Eat 'em and Smile". There must be some strange coincidence here, since this morning at my local supermarket they were playing "Jump"...  |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 09:59
ouch... for some reason I figured when I do get to visit Italy.. that I would be hearing PFM coming through the windows as I strolled through the streets hahha.... I guess it is true that American culture is a corrupting influenc haha anyway... 90125.... taken on it's own merits ... a fabulous album. Sure it wasn't Close to the Edge.. but what is... oh and far from being the last good album... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 10:19
Dave Davies of the Kinks put out AFL1-3063 just a couple years before 90125. This title references not only the catalog number, but the barcode itself. Barcodes were just becoming commonly used in consumer products about that time and were considered very controversial (at least in North America) because a lot of religious people believed that UPC codes were the 'mark of the beast'.  ------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 10:24
PFM coming through the windows... That's a good one! Actually, the thing in question was one of those horrid Eighties music compilations that includes anything from Van Halen to Spandau Ballet to Kajagoogoo. It seems to be a fixture at my local supermarket... Well, I suppose I could always open a shop and have all sorts of prog and classic rock blasting out of the speakers!BTW, I'm in complete agreement with you about 90125. I've also got the live DVD, and the band smoke on that one. And Trevor Rabin...hmmm.... don't get me started, please! |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 10:26
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Good question. Maybe it has to be with the catalog number, as the other ones said before.Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 10:32
I think that VH's last good album is Women And Children First. The debut is in my top 20 , but I have not much liking for VH II
I hate 1984 especially Jump (the worst KB solo ever  )and I do not even want to think about what they did after Diamond Dave left
 .These guys are much worse than Floyd ever was about how "I love you one day and hate you the next" . Sounds like GNR------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 10:45
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<<I think that VH's last good album is Women And Children First.>>
Great album! The song that never gets mentioned, however, is "In A Simple Rhyme". How this song isn't on the tip of every VH fan's tongues is beyond me. Absolutely smokes. I saw VH on the 1984 tour and the subsequent 5150 and OU812 (Monsters Of Rock with Kingdom Come, Metallica, Dokken and Scorpions) and I like the Sammy shows better. It became a lot less buffoonish without Roth. And yes I know we've ventured off the prog path; however, Van Halen is one of those bands that transports me back to my childhood. E -------------
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 10:48
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<<That's what it actually means, or so I have read in a book. It was the band's answer to Dave Lee Roth's title of "Eat 'em and Smile".
There must be some strange coincidence here, since this morning at my local supermarket they were playing "Jump"...>> And yesterday as I ventured into a CD Warehouse to pick up the debut album by Kansas (finally), the guy had on their live Right Here...Right Now disc. Let's face it, Van Halen is one of 80's quintessential bands. E -------------
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 10:51
| I must admit I've never liked them, probably because I couldn't stand Dave Lee Roth - either as a vocalist or as a man. Although I carry on about attractive musicians in almost every thread, he was one of these guys whom I almost found repulsive... And I hated his vocals with a passion. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 11:08
From 5150 on Sammy Hagar was their vocalist, he has a completely different voice.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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