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Topic: I need krautrock recommendations (please)
Posted: November 08 2005 at 19:52

Gila - st(subtitled 'free electric sound) is and overwhelming guitar psych similar to amon duul II or ash ra tempel

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Posted: November 05 2005 at 06:31

Yes, Frumpy is amazing (don't know much about Atlantis) - better than Birth Control, which is good too - their "Hoodoo Man" album is very interesting.

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Posted: November 04 2005 at 08:57

Friede, thanx for correcting my spelling faults; another group that has roots in Blues Rock and Soul: Birth Control

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 16:21

Alucard wrote:

'Krautrock' is an outdated term and was mainly used in the beginning of the 70's for the first wave of german rock bands. Most of these bands have only one common point that they were based in Germany.The first groups are closely linked to the labels Pilz,Ohr and Kosmische Kuriere the second wave mainly to the Brain label. The majority of the bands does not sing in german.Stylistically spoken there are several orientations:

Jazz Rock: Agiation Free, Embryo, Kraan, SFF, Guru-Guru, Missus Beastly, Curt Cress, Snowball, Passport

Symphonic: Triumvirat, Grobschnitt, Wallenstein, Novalis, Eloy, Satin Whale, Ramses, Streetmark

Heavy: Jane, Eloy(beginning)

Folk Rock: Hölderlin, Ogenweide, Jerry Berkers, Witthüser& Westrupp, Bröselmaschine

Psychedelic : Amon Düul,Mythos,Walpurgis

Düsseldorf: Neu, Kraftwerk, La Düsseldorf

Electronic : Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Popol Vuh, Eroc

Politic Rock : Floh de Cologne, Ton, Stein &Scherben, Checkpoint Charlie

+some bands and musicians hard to classify: Can, Holger Czukay, Irmin Schmidt, Cluster,Faust, Harmonia,Sergius Golowin

Of Hölderlin only the first album "Hölderlin's Traum" is Folk Rock, the rest is Symphonic Prog. And it is Ougenweide and not Ogenweide. Not really sure I'd put Agitation Free or SFF under Fusion either. And Guru Guru changed style with almost every album. Embryo are certainly fusion influenced, but later a lot of "World Music" entered their albums. In the section "Polit Rock" the name of the band is "Ton, Steine, Scherben" (a wordplay with the name of one of the German worker unions, "Bau, Steine, Erden").

The bands Frumpy and Atlantis with singer Inga Rumpf deserve a mentioning too. They play a more traditional, blues-oriented rock, with some funk elements in the case of Atlantis. I highly recommend their live albums.

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 15:26

Kraan - Andy Nogger

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 11:06

I agree with Alucard, but I have no labels for bands like Faust, Ash Ra Tempel or Guru... anyway, here is my list:

Cosmic Jokers, Ash Ra Tempel, Grobschnitt (Solar Music Live is superb!!) Manuel Gottschling, Eroc, Sergius Golowin and Holger Czukay... and of course SPEKTAKEL!!

... E N E L B U N K E R...

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 10:39

Jazz Rock: Agiation Free, Embryo, Kraan, SFF, Guru-Guru, Missus Beastly, Curt Cress, Snowball, Passport

Symphonic: Triumvirat, Grobschnitt, Wallenstein, Novalis, Eloy, Satin Whale, Ramses, Streetmark

Heavy: Jane, Eloy(beginning)

Folk Rock: Hölderlin, Ogenweide, Jerry Berkers, Witthüser& Westrupp, Bröselmaschine

Psychedelic : Amon Düul,Mythos,Walpurgis

Düsseldorf: Neu, Kraftwerk, La Düsseldorf

Electronic : Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Popol Vuh, Eroc

Politic Rock : Floh de Cologne, Ton, Stein &Scherben, Checkpoint Charlie

+some bands and musicians hard to classify: Can, Holger Czukay, Irmin Schmidt, Cluster,Faust, Harmonia,Sergius Golowin

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 06:39

Just been introduced to Exmagma - nothing to do with Magma. Seem to be influenced by Soft Machine (Third and before), however, liner notes suggest (to complicate things) a lot of ingestion of hallucinogens, with the album being the result of trying play Soft Machine tunes some fair way out of their skulls!

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 05:38

Wow, it seems that Deutschland ROCKS über alles!

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 00:54

-AGITATION FREE
     -Malesch
     -Second

-BRÖSELMASCHIENE
     -Bröselmaschiene

-GURU GURU
     -Space Ship : The Best Of
     -Essen 1970

-NEU!
     -Neu!

-EROC
     -Eroc

-POPOL VUH
     -The Best of Popol Vuh
     -Aguirre

-ACHIM REICHEL
     -Die Grüne Reise

-TANGERINE DREAM
     -Alpha Centauri
     -Phaedra
     -Ricochet
     -Electronic Meditation

-AMON DÜÜL II
     -Phallus Dei
     -Yeti

-BRÜHWARM
     -Entartet

-HÖLDERLIN
     -Hölderlins Traum

-THE COSMIC JOKERS
     -The Cosmic Jokers
     -Galactic Supermarket
     -Planeten Sit-In
     -Gilles Zeitschiff
     -Sci Fi Party

-HOLGER CZUKAY
     -Movies
     -On The Way to The Peak of Normal
     -Rome Remains Rome

-FAUST
     -Faust Tapes
     -Outside The Dream Syndicate

-ASH RA TEMPEL
     -Ash Ra Tempel
     -Schwingungen
     -Starring Rosi
     -Join Inn
     -Seven Up

-WALTER WEGMÜLLER
     -Tarot

-CAN
     -Tago Mago
     -Ege Bamyasi
     -Future Days
     -Soon Over Babaluma
     -Saw Delight

-ELOY
     -Inside

-NECRONOMICON
     -Tips Zum Selbstmord

-GÄA
     -Auf Der Bahn Zum Uranus

-YATHA SIDHRA
     - A Meditation Mass

-FLOH DE COLOGNE
     -Profitgeier

-ORGANISATION
     -Tone Float (1970)

-CHECKPOINT CHARLIE
     -Frühling Der Krüppel
     -Grüss Gott Mit Hellem Kläng

-RAMSES
     -La Leyla

-ANNEXUS QUAM
     -Osmose

-WALLENSTEIN
     -Blitzkrieg

-WITTHÜSER & WESTRUPP
     -Der Jesuspliz
     -Trips & Träume

-KYRIE ELEISON
     -The Fountain Beyond The Sunrise

-GROBSCHNITT
     -Grobschnitt
     -Solar Music LIVE
     -Rockpommel’s Land
     -Jumbo

-KLAUS SCHULZE
     -Irrlicht

-SERGIUS GOLOWIN
        -Lord Krishna Von Goloka

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Posted: October 31 2005 at 07:32

Some obvious artists and albums have been mentioned already; I won't repeat them. Other suggestions:

Amon Düül 2 - Yeti
Amon Düül 2 - Carnival in Babylon
Amon Düül 2 - Wolf City
Amon Düül 2 - Vive la Trance!
Kraan - Kraan
Kraan - Wintrup
Kraan - Lvie 75 (one of the best live albums ever)
Embryo - Rocksession
Embryo - Opal
Embryo - Steig Aus
Embryo - Embryo's Reise
Dzyan - Time Machine
Dzyan - Electric Silence
Between - Einstieg
Between - Dharana
Between - Hesse Between Music
Guru Guru - Guru Guru (contains their most famos track, "Der Elektrolurch")
Guru Guru - Live (another excellent live album)
Faust - Faust
Grobschnitt - Ballermann
Neu - Neu!
Neu - Neu 2
Brainstorm - Smile a While
Brainstorm - Second Smile
Aera - Humanum Est
Aera - Hand und Fuß
Aera - Live
Bunka, Roman - Dein Kopf Ist ein Schlafendes Auto
Highdelberg - Super Session
Liliental - Liliental
Froese, Edgar - Epsilon in Malaysian Pale
Baumann, Peter - Romance '76
Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass
Birth Control - Hoodoo Man
Sahara - Sunrise
Hoelderlin - Hoelderlin's Traum
Hoelderlin - Clowns and Clouds
...

I could go on endlessly ; if you have any questions just PM me .

Nektar are NOT a German band, by the way (they are British), and neither is Brainticket (Switzerland); both sound a lot like Krautrock though.

Oh, and not to forget the album that started Krautrock:
Amon Düül - Psychedelic Underground

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Posted: October 31 2005 at 02:48

My favourite bands: GÄA and RUFUS ZUPHALL!

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Posted: October 30 2005 at 14:47

Or just check out http://www.krautrock.com

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Posted: October 30 2005 at 14:45

Solo-work of Dieter Moebius (one half of Cluster) and Hans-Joachim Roedelius (the other half I think)

Tangerine Dream - Encore, Rubycon, Ricochet, Stratosfear, Zeit,
Novalis - Wer schmetterlinge lachen hort

Some other names I know but don't have any records from (only some incidental music)
Eloy
Triumvirat
Nektar

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Posted: October 30 2005 at 12:15

ummagumma08 wrote:

lovecraft wrote:

Agitation Free are essential in my opinion.(looks left)

Get:

Malesch
Second
Last

Sonds interesting, but also very expensive

I go exclusively for vinyl, generally kraut is very expensive, sadly

I used to be exclusively vinyl myself at one point. Then I realised that my time on this planet was finite and that I needed to hear everything I wanted to hear..

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Posted: October 30 2005 at 12:14

philippe wrote:

just send PM if you want recommendations & extracts from me: my knowledge covers a large part of krautrock from the most notorious bands to real obscurities...

Why won't you share them with us ? Ca serait sympa..

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Posted: October 30 2005 at 12:06

Solar music live a must-have for sure

You Should try agitation free too as said ..

I would also recommend:

Novalis - Sommerabend
Guru Guru - Live
Eroc - Eroc
Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation ( crazy thing)

And Eloy ( Ocean , Floating, etc..) even if it isn't really "kraut"..

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Posted: October 30 2005 at 10:47

Cosmic Jokers

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Posted: October 30 2005 at 10:24

YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO WALENSTEIN

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Posted: October 30 2005 at 10:20

ummagumma08 wrote:

I Already own: AMON DÜÜL II – Tanz der Lemminge AMON DÜÜL II – Phallus Dei CAN – Ege Bamyasi CAN – Tago Mago CAN – Monster Movie ERLKOENIG – Erlkoenig FAUST – Faust IV KRAFTWERK – Autobahn KRAFTWERK – Ruckzuck KRAFTWERK – II KRAFTWERK – INEU! – NEU! ’75 NEU! – NEU! POPOL VUH – Letzte Tage – Letzte Nächte

And love all of them, I need some more krautrock!

Already on wish list:AMON DÜÜl II - YetiAMON DÜÜl II - Wolf CityKRAFTWERK - Ralf & FlorianGROBSCHNITT - GrobschnittGROBSCHNITT - Rockpommel's LandGROBSCHNITT - Solar-Music LivePOPOL VUH - In Den Gärten PharaosPOPOL VUH - Hosianna MantraPOPOL VUH - Affenstunde POPOL VUH - SeligpreisungFAUST - FaustCAN - Future Days GURU GURU - Guru GuruGURU GURU - UFO.

Any other suggestions(preferably from the 70's)? Any must-have krautrock albums I've missed?

Pretty good selection for start

.

I would add:
- CAN Soundtracks (with essential 15 minute freak-out jam "Mother Sky")
- GURU GURU Kan Guru
- FAUST So Far and if you dare Faust Tapes (< see my avatar

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- AMON DUUL II offshoot UTOPIA, their only eponymous album

and depending on whether you consider them krautrock (heavy rock with psyche organ and guitar):
- JANE At Home Live
- BIRTH CONTROL Operation and Hoodoo Man
- BRAINTICKET Cottonwoodhill
- FRUMPY Frumpy II

Enjoy