Eski Bir... What language is this?

Hrychu wrote: The Dark Elf wrote: It is the language of Mordor. Uruk pushdug Uglúk burzum durbatulûk thrakatulûk gimbatul Yeah. For example: Nazgül. EDIT: TIL that Nazgül is a real Turkic feminine name!

I've never seen a girl/woman with the name Nazgül and I guess that is a very rare Turkish name, however it could even be a very popular one as it really sounds like some common Turkish girl names like "Aygül, Birgül, Songül..." etc. Nazgül; phonetically and meaningwise is (or can be) quite a proper Turkish name.

Some Turks make jokes about this, like: "If I had a daughter, I would give her the name Nazgül as a Tolkien/LotR fanboy." 

Thanks Valdez. I'll provide some google-translate supported translations for the lyrics here. 

Awesoreno wrote: Archisorcerus wrote: ^ Yep. I liked the movies better, as well. Whilst, I'm pretty certain that most will disagree with your notion here.  I would actually wager that more people have seen the movies than have even attempted to read the books. Which is usually the case with books that have been adapted into popular movies/franchises.

I said "here", which comes to mean on this forum. I vividly recall that The Dark Elf had panned the "adaptation" of the  Eye of Sauron in the movie, for instance.

Plus, in order to claim that one of them is is better than the other; it is mandatory that one has to both read the books and watch the movies.

^ Yep. I liked the movies better, as well. Whilst, I'm pretty certain that most will disagree with your notion here. 

The Dark Elf wrote: Archisorcerus wrote: The Dark Elf wrote: It is the language of Mordor. As Gandalf the 'Haji' utters it: "Very few can... (read it)"  And I'm among the very few, at least here. Or, am I the only one?..  Actually, I was partially kidding. If you look at the word form in the Orkish language, to a non-Turk they do seem related. Words like: Uruk pushdug  Uglúk burzum durbatulûk thrakatulûk gimbatul Again, to a non-Turk, Black Speech is very glottal; in fact linguists posit that the language of Mordor was based on ancient Hurritic -- the Hurrians once occupying a large part of Turkey.

Yeah, I already got the "semi-joke".

I guess English fantasy authors love them some Turkish in their work. Tolkien's "friend of fantasy" C.S. Lewis' Narnia also has the Turkish word Aslan which means lion in English (and in modern Turkish also). There's some dispute about the origin of the name Jadis too; some say it could be related to the Turkish word for witch, which is cadı ("c" is pronounced as in djinn here).

BTW, I'm not a Tolkien fan. Never have been. Though, I read LOTR novels in my adolescence and only partially impressed.

Hi all, 

It is the language of Mordor.

@Valdez

I thought you might be interested in this. All the best! 

https://voca.ro/14MfrNadqBOn


Edited by Archisorcerus - June 16 2024 at 08:20

Archisorcerus wrote: I've listened to "eski bir" and saw that... Lol, it is actually "Eksi Bir", not "eski bir". It basically means -1 / minus one. It can be used for the temparature like -1 degree Celsius = eksi bir santigrat derece. Or, mostly in online social media environments, it can be said to mean that you disagree with one's point. Artı bir means, I agree; eksi bir means, I disagree. Yet, here the lyrics tell the realisation, acknowledgement, and the eventual frustration of how the "periods of time" (specifically days) fall away one by one, and that it only adds more and more despair onto our lives.

I've listened to "eski bir" and saw that...

Lol, it is actually "Eksi Bir", not "eski bir". It basically means -1 / minus one.

It can be used for the temparature like -1 degree Celsius = eksi bir santigrat derece. Or, mostly in online social media environments, it can be said to mean that you disagree with one's point. Artı bir means, I agree; eksi bir means, I disagree.

Yet, here the lyrics tell the realisation, acknowledgement, and the eventual frustration of how the "periods of time" (specifically days) fall away one by one, and that it only adds more and more despair onto our lives. 

Edited by Archisorcerus - June 16 2024 at 06:09