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    Posted: October 29 2022 at 20:56
Ten favourites that aren't Krautrock in no particular order.
Aera- Hand Und Fuss
The Amber Light- Goodbye To Dusk, Farewell To Dawn
Brainstorm- Second Smile
Dark Suns- Existence
Satin Whale- Desert Places
Zyma- Thoughts
Grobschnitt- s/t
Electric Moon- Stardust Rituals
Long Distance Calling- Avoid The Light
Polytoxicomane Philharmonie- Psycho Erectus
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog... LOL

Yes, they were rejected. 
Three most known metal sites list the band as symphonic power metal or power metal. 
I'm not at all surprised they were rejected in all honesty. 

I concur completely Cristi, but I can see 'J's argument from the standpoint that early on in PA's history, the Collabs let in Nightwish, Epica, Rhapsody, Blind Guardian and After Forever amongst others who clearly shouldn't be here. On that basis, it's quite reasonable to ask 'what about Avantasia then?', but then if you let them in, what about Edguy, Helloween, Gamma Ray or Lanfear? Orden Ogan wrote a loose concept, Stratovarius have written 10 minuters... and before you know it, we have a power metal avalanche.. Confused
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog... LOL

Yes, they were rejected. 
Three most known metal sites list the band as symphonic power metal or power metal. 
I'm not at all surprised they were rejected in all honesty. 
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I'm not getting into it. Dozens of bands on here that aren't prog or even prog related.
No one has a working definition of prog, so it remains entirely subjective.
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^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog... LOL
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Well, shall we really get into what is and isn't prog again? On a forum where Black Sabbath and Fairport Convention are included.
Avantasia are prog metal band with only concept albums.
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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Every album from Avantasia.

high quality Symph Power Metal, but not really prog... Smile
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Every album from Avantasia.
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A very good book about and guide to mainly Krautrock but also other German Prog is Krautrock: Cosmic Rock 
and Its Legacy (2009) edited by Nikolaos Kotsopoulos. 
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century!

I'm still waking up to the wonderful German prog from the classic 1970's era, having not yet made it halfway through my first A-Z playlist of German prog. I also discovered a British Krautrock band by the name of The Utopia Strong, featuring snooker legend Steve Davis, which I found Interesting. Tongue
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century!
I don't care. I prefer the playful and forward thinking days of kraut and cosmic - as I consider it to be Germany's peak in "popular music". For newer music I look elsewhere and not all that much towards prog. Besides I listen to music from the 14th century up to the present, so 1970's - 2020's is the same era anyway. 
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In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century!

 
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very nice with all these new lists  Tongue
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Originally posted by zwordser zwordser wrote:

Can, Ege Basayami and Tago Mago

You've got too far East with this one. LOL
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I'm certain I forgotten some essentials
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Eloy  (D)  -  Inside (1973)

Hölderlin  (D)  -  Hölderlins Traum  (1972)

I did. Those two are great, and Doldinger's Passport-debut from 1972 is awesome too
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I have many:)

Can - Monster Movie, Soundtracks, Ege Bamyasi, Tago Mago, Future Days, Soon Over Babaluma (Landed is wonderful as well)

Kraftwerk - Die Mensch-Maschine and the rest - I wouldn't be without any release 1970-1986
Popol Vuh - Nosferatu: On the Way to a Little Way / Brüder Des Schattens - Söhne Des Lichts (and everything up the early 1980's)
Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket (& St.)
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (+ every relase 1971-1977++)
Klaus Schulze - Mirage (& the rest of the seventies + Dig It ÷ Dune/Picture Music)
Embryo - Stieg Aus, Reise (but they've got like six equally strong contenders)
Between - And the Waters Opened, Stille über der Zeit: Silence Beyond Time
Amon Düül II - Yeti (or: three first)
Faust - So Far (+IV)
Kraan - Kraan
Cluster - Zuckerzeit
Dzyan - Electric Silence
Harmonia - Music Von Harmonia, Deluxe, Tracks and Traces
Agitation Free - Malesch, Second
Kollektiv -  SWF-Sessions Volume 5
NEU! - NEU!, NEU! '75
Günter Schickert - Überfällig (+ GAM - Eiszeit)
A La Ping Pong - Go Go Pongs
Peter Frohmader - Nekropolis - Musik Aus Dem Schattenreich, Nekropolis 2

-Also debut -or only album by: Frankie Dymon Jr, Dom, Yatha Sidhra, Ash Ra Tempel, Deuter, Brave New World, Kalacackra, A.R + Machines, Tortilla Flat mm...

I'm certain I forgotten some essentials
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A few that are on peoples' lists already here.  Of these, my faves are:

Grobschnitt, Rockpommels Land
Triumvirat, Spartacus
Kraan, Kraan (which I got while in Germany)
Holderlin,  Holderlin's Traum
Can, Ege Basayami and Tago Mago
Tangerine Dream:  Rubycon and Phaedra
Frumpy 2
Popul Vuh, Hosianna Mantra

And maybe some I'm missing, but even with all these, it still seems to me that there isn't as much great Prog rock coming out of Germany as there might be.
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Your list Drew reminded me that my list was all Krautrock nothing else. I need to come up with some other German albums.
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These are the German prog albums that I feel the most attached to:
Sylvan Posthumous Silence (2006)
Amenophis s/t (1983)
Anyone's Daughter Adonis (1979)
Sylvan Home (2015)
Sylvan Force of Gravity (2009)
Faun Eden (2011)
Faun Renaissance (2005)
Faun Luna (2014)
Fauns Awaiting the Sun (2011)
Bröselmachine s/t (1971)
Hölderlin Hölderlin's Traum (1972)
Neuschwanstein Battlement (1979)
Klaus Schulze Deus Arrakis (2022)
Klaus Schulze Kontinuum (2007)
Klaus Schulze X (1979)
Klaus Schulze Mirage (1976)
Popol Vuh Hosianna Mantra (1972)
Agitation Free Malesch (1972)
Ash Ra Tempel s/t (1971)
Tangerine Dream Rubycon (1975)
Eden Erwartung (1978)
Frequency Drift Ghosts… (2011)
Electric Orange Morbus (2007)
Electric Orange Volume 10 (2014)
Eberhard Weber The Following Morning (1977)
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  far too many...  but following HolyMoly's lead with the cranial attic houseclean:  Amon Duul II, Yeti... Can, Future Days... Tangerine Dream, Atem... Klaus Schulze, Body Love... Ash Ra Tempel, Inventions for Electric Guitar... Popol Vuh, In Den Garten Pharaos, ... Eberhard Schoener, Meditation... Harmonia, Deluxe... Cosmic Jokers, s/t... Embryo, Steig Aus...  and that is only giving one selection per artist.  cheers!
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