Your fave German Prog albums?
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Topic: Your fave German Prog albums?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your fave German Prog albums?
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 10:10
German Prog has in the post-70's certainly not been as prolific as in the 70's, but still in it's entirety is one of the very most appreciated ones, and surely by me too. There might have been a similar thread some time ago, but anyway I think this one is a good idea. So here's my list:
Agitation Free (D) - Malesch (1972) Amon Düül II (D) - Yeti (1970), Wolf City ('72) Ash Ra Tempel (D) - Ash Ra Tempel (1971) Can (D) - Tago Mago (1971), Ege Bamyasi ('73), Future Days ('73) Electric Sandwich (D) - Electric Sandwich (1973)
Eloy (D) - Inside (1973), Floating ('74), Ocean ('77) Embryo (D) - We Keep On (1973) Faust (D) - Faust IV (1973) Edgar Froese (D) - Ypsilon in Malaysian Pale (1975) Gila (D) - Gila (1971) Guru Guru (D) - Hinten (1970) Harmonia (D) - Musik Von Harmonia (1974)
Michael Hoenig (D) - Departure From The Northern Wasteland (1978) Hölderlin (D) - Hölderlins Traum (1972)
Kraan (D) - Kraan (1972) NEU! (D) - NEU! (1972) Orange Peel (D) - Orange Peel (1972) Out of Focus (D) - Wake UP (1970) Pell Mell (D) - Marburg (1972)
Scorpions (D) - Lonesome Crow (1972) Tangerine Dream (D) - Rubycon (1975), Stratosfear ('76)
And I hope, you'll enjoy it!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 10:45
David_D wrote:
German Prog has in the post-70's certainly not been as prolific as in the 70's, but still in it's entirety is one of the most appreciated ones, and surely by me too. ... |
Hi,
The scene in Germany is as busy as ever was these days. One look at Guy Guden's Space Pirate Radio listings for his shows, will detail quite a few members from Germany. It is more towards the electronic and exploratory sounds of Neu, early Kraftwerk and such, but its creativity is just as strong.
The whole scene is much more "prolific" now than it ever was, as the releasing of materials is much easier than having to pull guns to a record company's folks! Both TD and KS had to go outside Germany to get their sales going because Schlager was the music then, I guess!
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 12:03
As in "classical music", with Progressive Rock, Germans have a natural ability. I demand that music have a cerebral and complex structure, and the German approach can really excel in that quality. Some German progressive artists I could not be without are:
Triumvirat Helmut Koellen Passport Wallenstein Pell Mell Andromeda Kristian Schulze Set Ceddo Tangerine Dream The Pink Mice Kraftwerk German Oak Midnight Circus
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 13:10
14 Out of Focus Out of Focus Ger 1971
14 Schulze,
Klaus Timewind Ger 1975
13 Hoelderlin Hoelderlin's Traum Ger 1971
13 Out of Focus Four Letter Monday Afternoon Ger 1972
13 Out of Focus Not Too Late Ger 1974
13 Sahara Sunrise
Ger 1973
13 Tangerine Dream Alpha Centauri Ger 1971
13 Tangerine Dream Ricochet Ger 1975
12 Agitation Free Second Ger 1973
12 Agitation Free At the Cliffs of River Rhine (aka Live '74) Ger 1974
12 Amon Düül II Yeti Ger 1970
12 Amon Düül II Tanz der Lemminge Ger 1971
12 Bröselmaschine Bröselmaschine Ger 1971
12 Can Tago
Mago Ger 1971
12 Can Ege
Bamyasi Ger 1972
12 Embryo
We Keep On Ger 1973
12 Gila Gila
(aka Free Electric Sound) Ger 1971
12 Grobschnitt Grobschnitt Ger 1972
12 Grobschnitt Solar Music Live Ger 1978
12 Missus Beastly Missus Beastly Ger 1974
12 Murphy Blend First Loss Ger 1970
12 Out of Focus Wake Up Ger 1970
12 Out of Focus Palermo 1972 Ger 1972
12 Tangerine Dream Electronic Meditation Ger 1970
12 Tangerine Dream Phaedra Ger 1974
12 Tangerine Dream Force Majeure Ger 1979
12 Yatha Sidhra Meditation Mass Ger 1974
11 Amon Düül
II Phallus Dei
11 Amon Düül II Wolf City Ger 1972
11 Annexus Quam Osmose Ger 1970
11 Ash Ra Tempel Ash Ra Tempel Ger 1971
11 Between Einstieg Ger 1971
11 Birth Control Operation Ger 1971
11 Birth Control Hoodoo Man Ger 1972
11 Cluster Cluster (aka Cluster '71) Ger 1971
11 Dzyan Time
Machine Ger 1973
11 Dzyan Electric Silence
11 Embryo Father,
Son and Holy Ghosts Ger 1972
11 Embryo Steig Aus Ger 1973
11 Emtidi Saat
Ger 1972
11 Guru Guru UFO Ger 1970
11 Hoelderlin Hoelderlin Ger 1975
11 Jane Together
Ger 1972
11 Kollektiv Kollektiv Ger 1973
11 Kraan Live
Ger 1975
11 Kraftwerk Kraftwerk Ger 1970
11 Organisation Tone Float Ger 1970
11 Ougenweide All die Weil ich Mag Ger 1974
11 Parzival Barock 11 Popol Vuh Seligpreisung
11 Popol Vuh Einsjager & Siebenjager Ger 1975
11 Release Music Orchestra Garuda Ger 1976 11 Schulze, Klaus Blackdance 1974
11 Tangerine Dream Zeit 1972
11 Tangerine Dream Stratosfear 1976
11 Thirsty
Moon Thirsty Moon
11 Wallenstein Blitzkreig
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 13:27
thank you very much for the first lists
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 13:32
moshkito wrote:
David_D wrote:
German Prog has in the post-70's certainly not been as prolific as in the 70's, but still in it's entirety is one of the most appreciated ones, and surely by me too. |
Hi, The scene in Germany is as busy as ever was these days. One look at Guy Guden's Space Pirate Radio listings for his shows, will detail quite a few members from Germany. It is more towards the electronic and exploratory sounds of Neu, early Kraftwerk and such, but its creativity is just as strong.
The whole scene is much more "prolific" now than it ever was, as the releasing of materials is much easier than having to pull guns to a record company's folks! Both TD and KS had to go outside Germany to get their sales going because Schlager was the music then, I guess! |
Well, you couldn't really know, but I'm talking about how German Prog albums from the different decades have been rated, and when compared to other countries, and all that on basis of millions of ratings.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 14:12
Amon Duul II - Yeti Can - Tago Mago Tangerine Dream - Phaedra Klaus Schulze - X Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra Agitation Free - Malesch Ashra Tempel - s/t Neu! - s/t Peter Baumann - Romance 76 Cluster - II Cosmic Jokers - s/t Dzyan - Electric Silence Faust - So Far Embryo - Steig Aus Gila - s/t Guru Guru - UFO Harmonia - Deluxe
One per band or its all AD2, Can, TD, KS
------------- Ian
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 14:32
My A-Z List of German Prog Favourites:-
Agitation Free Between The Cosmic Jokers Dom Eloy Edgar Froese Guru Guru Hoelderlin Ibliss Jane Kraan Lucifer's Friend Message Novalis Out of Focus Passport Quaeschning & Schnauss Rufus Zuphall Klaus Schulze Tangerine Dream Utopia Virgin's Dream Wallenstein Xhol Caravan/Xhol Yatha Sidhra Zomby Woof
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 15:24
In no particular ranking Neu : 1st Neu : 2nd Grobschnitt : Solar Music Live Rockpommel's land Sixty-Nine : Live Tangerine Dream : Rubycon Ricochet Phaedra Stratosfear Klaus Schulze Timewind Black Dance Kraftwerk : Autobahn Computer world TEE Man Machine Message : The dawn anew is coming Message ( self titled 3rd LP) Eloy : Live Floating Inside Ocean (1) Passport : Infinity Machine Cross Colateral Ramses :La Leyla ( 1976) Xohl Caravan : Electrip + Versus X : Disturbance The Turbulent Zone
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 15:54
Panzerballett - Project Z, Breaking Brain, Tank Goodness Sieges Even - The Art of Navagating by the Stars, Paramount Sylvan - Artificial Paradise, Posthumous Silence Vanden Plas - Beyond Daylight, Christ 0
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 16:06
my welcome and thanks to all the new ones
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 17:24
The top 3 bands are Can (Soon Over Babaluma, Tago Mago) Amon Düül II (Yeti, Tanz der Lemminge) Tangerine Dream (Rubycon, Zeit)
Other than those a big shout out for
Holger Czukay's solo work (Movies, Clash, Good Morning Story)
Some further special mentions: Association P.C. Erna Morena Birth Control Backdoor Possibilities
Hoelderlin Live Traumstadt Kraan Live SFF Symphonic Pictures Edgar Froese Stuntman
Novalis Flossenengel Kraftwerk Mensch Maschine Irmin Schmidt & Kumo Axolotl Eyes Faust IV Asmus Tietchens Zeta-Menge
Agitation Free Malesch
Anyone' Daughter Requested Document Live Eloy Colours Stern Meissen Die Reise zum Mittelpunkt des Menschen Squintaloo Uber Bord!
Grobschnitt Solar Music Live Guru Guru Live Ashra Blackouts
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 23:08
David_D wrote:
... Well, you couldn't really know, but I'm talking about how German Prog albums from the different decades have been rated, and when compared to other countries, and all that on basis of millions of ratings.
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Hi,
However, in doing so, you are doing an injustice to today's musicians ... let's say ... your children ... and you are punishing them by suggesting that they will never, conceivably, be able to get as "good", or "well known" as those from years ago.
Why don't you do a thing that says Beethoven, Mozart and Bach are better than all these middling rock bands? Your credibility might be more interesting, instead of tasting like sour popcorn!
If you had been "there" at the time, you would not have touched the German stuff like we did! You have little taste for music and think that your "numbers" justify what you post!
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 03:37
Okay, Mosh, now you talk again about me in a much more negative way than the reality is - which means that your negative energy takes again over. Please, try to fight with it.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 04:01
Triumvirat - Illusions on a Double Dimple Eloy - Live, Dawn Klaus Schulze - Picture Music, Timewind, Mirage Tangerine Dream - Ricochet, Rubycon, Stratosfear Frequency Drift - Last
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 04:21
David_D wrote:
Okay, Mosh, now you talk again about me in a much more negative way than the reality is - which means that your negative energy takes again over. Please, try to fight with it.
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Don't worry - Mosh treats everyone the same way, including me. You could say he's an equal opportunities scoffer and scorner, although I wouldn't say that.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 06:22
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Don't worry - Mosh treats everyone the same way, including me. You could say he's an equal opportunities scoffer and scorner, although I wouldn't say that.
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and thanks, Paul.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 06:32
Just ignore Mosh he has a free pass to be as unpleasant as he likes.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 06:39
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Just ignore Mosh he has a free pass to be as unpleasant as he likes. |
Hi,
It's a shame that someone, even an Admin, does not read the post in order to determine how it is on thread, and how it was ignored.
It's ridiculous to say that one time there was music, and then there wasn't. It's not even artistically educated whatsoever, and the number of materials that we have "discovered" from various other days, have shown that.
But we keep turning to a top five mentality, and almost all of the "progressive" folks were not about these numbers ... they were about themselves, and their art!
I just think it's time, if we are going to continue being a "progressive" music board, that we wake up to the art and the music ... music, or art, HAS NEVER DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN OR HELL. it was always there, but we don't have ears for something different, otherwise this discussion would be null and void.
I just find that David D's posts try to invent some kind of idea from its "numbers", and in all honesty, those numbers are long gone and not relevant ... but one Goon thinks that relevancy is his posts ... not the reality that the art still exists! AND IS LIVING really well!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 06:43
Oh I read the posts.
------------- Ian
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 07:11
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Just ignore Mosh he has a free pass to be as unpleasant as he likes. |
thanks, Ian
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 08:33
About half of my list has been mentioned so I'll mention the other 20 plus albums. Gunter Schikert- Uberfallig - Kinder In Der Wildness GAM- Eizsiet Cosmic Jokers- Galactic Supermarket Frumpy- 2 Tangerine Dream- Electronic meditation Popol Vuh- Letzte Tage Letzte Nachte Mythos- Mythos Kraan- Kraan Prosper- Broken Door Dennis- Hyperthalamus Can- Monster Movie - Delay 68 - Soundtracks Guru Guru- Kanguru Ash Ra Tempel- Join Inn - Schwingungen Agitation Free- Last Brainticket- Celestial Ocean Et Cetera- Knircsh Tangerine Dream- Electronic meditation Ikarus- Ikarus Embryo- Embryo's Rache
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 13:58
(One per artist)
1. Can - Tago Mago 2. Triumvirat - Spartacus
3. Holger Czukay - Movies 4. Popol Vuh - Aguirre 5. ID Company - ID Company
6. Eiliff - Eiliff 7. Tangerine Dream - Zeit 8. Kluster - Zwei-Osterei
9. Euphorium_Freakestra - Free Electric Supergroup
10. Brainstorm - Second Smile 11. Eroc - Eroc
12. Technical Space Composer's Crew - Canaxis 5
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 02:34
Paul, a bit off-topic, but I admire your psychological knowledge and wisdom, for not to talk about the goodness of your heart - and thank you very much again for all your help at many different occasions.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 02:43
David_D wrote:
Paul, a bit off-topic, but I admire your psychological knowledge and wisdom, for not to talk about the goodness of your heart - and thank you very much again for all your help at many different occasions. |
Danke Schoen.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 07:32
Off the top of my head,
Can | Future Days (my #1 album all-time) Michael Hoenig | Departure from the Northern Wasteland Amon Düül II | Tanz der Lemminge Kraan | Wiederhören Embryo | Embryo’s Reise Tangerine Dream | Phaedra Klaus Schulze | Mirage Faust | The Faust Tapes
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Posted By: Guy Guden
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 14:37
far too many... but following HolyMoly's lead with the cranial attic houseclean: Amon Duul II, Yeti... Can, Future Days... Tangerine Dream, Atem... Klaus Schulze, Body Love... Ash Ra Tempel, Inventions for Electric Guitar... Popol Vuh, In Den Garten Pharaos, ... Eberhard Schoener, Meditation... Harmonia, Deluxe... Cosmic Jokers, s/t... Embryo, Steig Aus... and that is only giving one selection per artist. cheers!
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 18:52
These are the German prog albums that I feel the most attached to:Sylvan Posthumous Silence (2006) Amenophis s/t (1983) Anyone's Daughter Adonis (1979) Sylvan Home (2015) Sylvan Force of Gravity (2009) Faun Eden (2011) Faun Renaissance (2005) Faun Luna (2014) Fauns Awaiting the Sun (2011) Bröselmachine s/t (1971) Hölderlin Hölderlin's Traum (1972) Neuschwanstein Battlement (1979) Klaus Schulze Deus Arrakis (2022) Klaus Schulze Kontinuum (2007) Klaus Schulze X (1979) Klaus Schulze Mirage (1976) Popol Vuh Hosianna Mantra (1972) Agitation Free Malesch (1972) Ash Ra Tempel s/t (1971) Tangerine Dream Rubycon (1975) Eden Erwartung (1978) Frequency Drift Ghosts… (2011) Electric Orange Morbus (2007) Electric Orange Volume 10 (2014) Eberhard Weber The Following Morning (1977)
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 18:20
Your list Drew reminded me that my list was all Krautrock nothing else. I need to come up with some other German albums.
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Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 21:40
A few that are on peoples' lists already here. Of these, my faves are:
Grobschnitt, Rockpommels Land Triumvirat, Spartacus Kraan, Kraan (which I got while in Germany)
Holderlin, Holderlin's Traum Can, Ege Basayami and Tago Mago Tangerine Dream: Rubycon and Phaedra Frumpy 2 Popul Vuh, Hosianna Mantra
And maybe some I'm missing, but even with all these, it still seems to me that there isn't as much great Prog rock coming out of Germany as there might be.
------------- Z
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 22:16
I have many:)
Can - Monster Movie, Soundtracks, Ege Bamyasi, Tago Mago, Future Days, Soon Over Babaluma (Landed is wonderful as well)
Kraftwerk - Die Mensch-Maschine and the rest - I wouldn't be without any release 1970-1986 Popol Vuh - Nosferatu: On the Way to a Little Way / Brüder Des Schattens - Söhne Des Lichts (and everything up the early 1980's) Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket (& St.) Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (+ every relase 1971-1977++) Klaus Schulze - Mirage (& the rest of the seventies + Dig It ÷ Dune/Picture Music) Embryo - Stieg Aus, Reise (but they've got like six equally strong contenders) Between - And the Waters Opened, Stille über der Zeit: Silence Beyond Time
Amon Düül II - Yeti (or: three first) Faust - So Far (+IV) Kraan - Kraan Cluster - Zuckerzeit Dzyan - Electric Silence Harmonia - Music Von Harmonia, Deluxe, Tracks and Traces
Agitation Free - Malesch, Second Kollektiv - SWF-Sessions Volume 5 NEU! - NEU!, NEU! '75 Günter Schickert - Überfällig (+ GAM - Eiszeit) A La Ping Pong - Go Go Pongs Peter Frohmader - Nekropolis - Musik Aus Dem Schattenreich, Nekropolis 2
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debut -or only album by: Frankie Dymon Jr, Dom, Yatha Sidhra, Ash Ra
Tempel, Deuter, Brave New World, Kalacackra, A.R + Machines, Tortilla
Flat mm...
I'm certain I forgotten some essentials
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 22:30
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I'm certain I forgotten some essentials
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David_D wrote:
Eloy (D) - Inside (1973) Hölderlin (D) - Hölderlins Traum (1972) |
I did. Those two are great, and Doldinger's Passport-debut from 1972 is awesome too
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 04:19
zwordser wrote:
Can, Ege Basayami and Tago Mago |
You've got too far East with this one.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 04:23
very nice with all these new lists
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 06:52
In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century!
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 07:54
BrufordFreak wrote:
In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century! | I don't care. I prefer the playful and forward thinking days of kraut and cosmic - as I consider it to be Germany's peak in "popular music". For newer music I look elsewhere and not all that much towards prog. Besides I listen to music from the 14th century up to the present, so 1970's - 2020's is the same era anyway.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 08:06
BrufordFreak wrote:
In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century! |
I'm still waking up to the wonderful German prog from the classic 1970's era, having not yet made it halfway through my first A-Z playlist of German prog. I also discovered a British Krautrock band by the name of The Utopia Strong, featuring snooker legend Steve Davis, which I found Interesting.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 03:06
A very good book about and guide to mainly Krautrock but also other German Prog is Krautrock: Cosmic Rock and Its Legacy (2009) edited by Nikolaos Kotsopoulos.
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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 03:25
Every album from Avantasia.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 03:37
LAM-SGC wrote:
Every album from Avantasia. |
high quality Symph Power Metal, but not really prog...
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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 04:08
Well, shall we really get into what is and isn't prog again? On a forum where Black Sabbath and Fairport Convention are included. Avantasia are prog metal band with only concept albums.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 04:20
^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog...
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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 05:11
I'm not getting into it. Dozens of bands on here that aren't prog or even prog related. No one has a working definition of prog, so it remains entirely subjective.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 05:53
Jared wrote:
^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog... |
Yes, they were rejected. Three most known metal sites list the band as symphonic power metal or power metal. I'm not at all surprised they were rejected in all honesty.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 13:57
Cristi wrote:
Jared wrote:
^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog... |
Yes, they were rejected. Three most known metal sites list the band as symphonic power metal or power metal. I'm not at all surprised they were rejected in all honesty. |
I concur completely Cristi, but I can see 'J's argument from the standpoint that early on in PA's history, the Collabs let in Nightwish, Epica, Rhapsody, Blind Guardian and After Forever amongst others who clearly shouldn't be here. On that basis, it's quite reasonable to ask 'what about Avantasia then?', but then if you let them in, what about Edguy, Helloween, Gamma Ray or Lanfear? Orden Ogan wrote a loose concept, Stratovarius have written 10 minuters... and before you know it, we have a power metal avalanche..
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 20:56
Ten favourites that aren't Krautrock in no particular order. Aera- Hand Und Fuss The Amber Light- Goodbye To Dusk, Farewell To Dawn Brainstorm- Second Smile Dark Suns- Existence Satin Whale- Desert Places Zyma- Thoughts Grobschnitt- s/t Electric Moon- Stardust Rituals Long Distance Calling- Avoid The Light Polytoxicomane Philharmonie- Psycho Erectus
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"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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