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Topic: Your fave German Prog albums?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your fave German Prog albums?
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 10:10


German Prog has in the post-70's certainly not been as prolific as in the 70's, but still in it's entirety is one of the very 

most appreciated ones, and surely by me too.

There might have been a similar thread some time ago, but anyway I think this one is a good idea.

So here's my list:


Agitation Free  (D)  -  Malesch  (1972)

 Amon Düül II  (D)  -  Yeti  (1970), Wolf City  ('72)

Ash Ra Tempel  (D)  -  Ash Ra Tempel  (1971)

Can  (D)  Tago Mago (1971), Ege Bamyasi ('73), Future Days ('73)

Electric Sandwich  (D)  -  Electric Sandwich   (1973)  

Eloy  (D)  Inside (1973), Floating  ('74), Ocean  ('77)

 Embryo  (D)  -  We Keep On  (1973)

Faust  (D)  -  Faust IV  (1973)

Edgar Froese  (D)  -  Ypsilon in Malaysian Pale  (1975)

Gila  (D) -  Gila   (1971)

Guru Guru  (D)  -  Hinten  (1970)

Harmonia  (D)  -  Musik Von Harmonia   (1974)

Michael Hoenig  (D) - Departure From The Northern Wasteland (1978)

Hölderlin  (D)  -  Hölderlins Traum  (1972)

Kraan  (D)  -  Kraan  (1972)

NEU!  (D)  -  NEU!  (1972)

Orange Peel  (D)  -  Orange Peel   (1972)

Out of Focus  (D)  -  Wake UP   (1970)

Pell Mell  (D)  -  Marburg   (1972)

Scorpions  (D)  -  Lonesome Crow  (1972)

Tangerine Dream  (D)  -  Rubycon  (1975), Stratosfear  ('76)


And I hope, you'll enjoy it! Tongue



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                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond



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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 10:45
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


German Prog has in the post-70's certainly not been as prolific as in the 70's, but still in it's entirety is one of the most 

appreciated ones, and surely by me too.

...


Hi,


The scene in Germany is as busy as ever was these days. One look at Guy Guden's Space Pirate Radio listings for his shows, will detail quite a few members from Germany. It is more towards the electronic and exploratory sounds of Neu, early Kraftwerk and such, but its creativity is just as strong.


The whole scene is much more "prolific" now than it ever was, as the releasing of materials is much easier than having to pull guns to a record company's folks! Both TD and KS had to go outside Germany to get their sales going because Schlager was the music then, I guess!



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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 12:03
As in "classical music", with Progressive Rock, Germans have a natural ability. I demand that music have a cerebral and complex structure, and the German approach can really excel in that quality. Some German progressive artists  I could not be without are:

Triumvirat
Helmut Koellen
Passport
Wallenstein
Pell Mell
Andromeda
Kristian Schulze Set
Ceddo
Tangerine Dream
The Pink Mice
Kraftwerk
German Oak
Midnight Circus




Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 13:10

14           Out of Focus      Out of Focus      Ger        1971     

14           Schulze, Klaus   Timewind           Ger        1975     

13           Hoelderlin          Hoelderlin's Traum         Ger        1971     

13           Out of Focus      Four Letter Monday Afternoon               Ger        1972     

13           Out of Focus      Not Too Late     Ger        1974     

13           Sahara  Sunrise                Ger        1973     

13           Tangerine Dream            Alpha Centauri Ger        1971     

13           Tangerine Dream            Ricochet              Ger        1975     

12           Agitation Free   Second                Ger        1973     

12           Agitation Free   At the Cliffs of River Rhine (aka Live '74)              Ger        1974     

12           Amon Düül II     Yeti        Ger        1970     

12           Amon Düül II     Tanz der Lemminge       Ger        1971     

12           Bröselmaschine               Bröselmaschine               Ger        1971     

12           Can        Tago Mago         Ger        1971     

12           Can        Ege Bamyasi      Ger        1972     

12           Embryo                We Keep On     Ger        1973     

12           Gila        Gila (aka Free Electric Sound)    Ger        1971     

12           Grobschnitt       Grobschnitt       Ger        1972     

12           Grobschnitt       Solar Music Live               Ger        1978     

12           Missus Beastly  Missus Beastly Ger        1974     

12           Murphy Blend  First Loss             Ger        1970     

12           Out of Focus      Wake Up             Ger        1970     

12           Out of Focus      Palermo 1972    Ger        1972     

12           Tangerine Dream            Electronic Meditation    Ger        1970     

12           Tangerine Dream            Phaedra              Ger        1974                      

12           Tangerine Dream            Force Majeure Ger        1979     

12           Yatha Sidhra      Meditation Mass             Ger        1974     

11           Amon Düül II     Phallus Dei        

11           Amon Düül II     Wolf City             Ger        1972     

11           Annexus Quam                Osmose               Ger        1970     

11           Ash Ra Tempel Ash Ra Tempel Ger        1971     

11           Between             Einstieg                Ger        1971     

11           Birth Control      Operation           Ger        1971     

11           Birth Control      Hoodoo Man     Ger        1972                      

11           Cluster Cluster (aka Cluster '71)               Ger        1971                      

11           Dzyan   Time Machine   Ger        1973     

11           Dzyan   Electric Silence 

11           Embryo                Father, Son and Holy Ghosts     Ger        1972                        

11           Embryo                Steig Aus             Ger        1973     

11           Emtidi   Saat       Ger        1972     

11           Guru Guru          UFO       Ger        1970     

11           Hoelderlin          Hoelderlin          Ger        1975     

11           Jane      Together             Ger        1972     

11           Kollektiv              Kollektiv              Ger        1973     

11           Kraan    Live        Ger        1975     

11           Kraftwerk           Kraftwerk           Ger        1970     

11           Organisation      Tone Float          Ger        1970     

11           Ougenweide     All die Weil ich Mag        Ger        1974     

11           Parzival                Barock    

11           Popol Vuh          Seligpreisung

11           Popol Vuh          Einsjager & Siebenjager               Ger        1975     

11           Release Music Orchestra             Garuda                Ger        1976       

11           Schulze, Klaus   Blackdance       1974     

11           Tangerine Dream            Zeit          1972     

11           Tangerine Dream            Stratosfear          1976                      

11           Thirsty Moon    Thirsty Moon   

11           Wallenstein       Blitzkreig

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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 13:27

thank you very much for the first lists  Smile


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                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 13:32
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

German Prog has in the post-70's certainly not been as prolific as in the 70's, but still in it's entirety is one of the most 

appreciated ones, and surely by me too.

Hi,

The scene in Germany is as busy as ever was these days. One look at Guy Guden's Space Pirate Radio listings for his shows, will detail quite a few members from Germany. It is more towards the electronic and exploratory sounds of Neu, early Kraftwerk and such, but its creativity is just as strong.


The whole scene is much more "prolific" now than it ever was, as the releasing of materials is much easier than having to pull guns to a record company's folks! Both TD and KS had to go outside Germany to get their sales going because Schlager was the music then, I guess!


Well, you couldn't really know, but I'm talking about how German Prog albums from the different decades have been rated, and when compared to other countries, and all that on basis of millions of ratings.


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                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 14:12
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Can - Tago Mago
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
Klaus Schulze - X
Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra
Agitation Free - Malesch
Ashra Tempel - s/t
Neu! - s/t
Peter Baumann - Romance 76
Cluster - II
Cosmic Jokers - s/t
Dzyan - Electric Silence
Faust - So Far
Embryo - Steig Aus
Gila - s/t
Guru Guru - UFO
Harmonia - Deluxe

One per band or its all AD2, Can, TD, KS

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https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 14:32
My A-Z List of German Prog Favourites:-

Agitation Free
Between
The Cosmic Jokers
Dom
Eloy
Edgar Froese
Guru Guru
Hoelderlin
Ibliss
Jane
Kraan
Lucifer's Friend
Message
Novalis
Out of Focus
Passport
Quaeschning & Schnauss
Rufus Zuphall
Klaus Schulze
Tangerine Dream
Utopia 
Virgin's Dream
Wallenstein
Xhol Caravan/Xhol
Yatha Sidhra
Zomby Woof


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 15:24
In no particular ranking
Neu : 1st
Neu : 2nd
Grobschnitt :
Solar Music Live
Rockpommel's land
Sixty-Nine : Live
Tangerine Dream :
Rubycon
Ricochet
Phaedra
Stratosfear
Klaus Schulze
Timewind
Black Dance
Kraftwerk :
Autobahn
Computer world
TEE
Man Machine
Message :
The dawn anew is coming
Message ( self titled 3rd LP)
Eloy :
Live
Floating
Inside
Ocean (1)
Passport :
Infinity Machine
Cross Colateral
Ramses :La Leyla ( 1976)
Xohl Caravan : Electrip
+
Versus X :
Disturbance
The Turbulent Zone






Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 15:54
Panzerballett - Project Z, Breaking Brain, Tank Goodness
Sieges Even - The Art of Navagating by the Stars, Paramount
Sylvan - Artificial Paradise, Posthumous Silence
Vanden Plas - Beyond Daylight, Christ 0


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 16:06

my welcome and thanks to all the new ones  Smile


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 17:24
The top 3 bands are
Can (Soon Over Babaluma, Tago Mago)
Amon Düül II (Yeti, Tanz der Lemminge)
Tangerine Dream (Rubycon, Zeit)

Other than those a big shout out for
Holger Czukay's solo work (Movies, Clash, Good Morning Story)

Some further special mentions:
Association P.C. Erna Morena
Birth Control Backdoor Possibilities
Hoelderlin Live Traumstadt
Kraan Live
SFF Symphonic Pictures
Edgar Froese Stuntman
Novalis Flossenengel
Kraftwerk Mensch Maschine
Irmin Schmidt & Kumo Axolotl Eyes
Faust IV
Asmus Tietchens Zeta-Menge
Agitation Free Malesch
Anyone' Daughter Requested Document Live
Eloy Colours
Stern Meissen Die Reise zum Mittelpunkt des Menschen
Squintaloo Uber Bord!
Grobschnitt Solar Music Live
Guru Guru Live
Ashra Blackouts


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 15 2022 at 23:08
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

...
Well, you couldn't really know, but I'm talking about how German Prog albums from the different decades have been rated, and when compared to other countries, and all that on basis of millions of ratings.

Hi,

However, in doing so, you are doing an injustice to today's musicians ... let's say ... your children ... and you are punishing them by suggesting that they will never, conceivably, be able to get as "good", or "well known" as those from years ago.

Why don't you do a thing that says Beethoven, Mozart and Bach are better than all these middling rock bands? Your credibility might be more interesting, instead of tasting like sour popcorn!

If you had been "there" at the time, you would not have touched the German stuff like we did! You have little taste for music and think that your "numbers" justify what you post! 


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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 03:37

Okay, Mosh, now you talk again about me in a much more negative way than the reality is - which means that your 
negative energy takes again over. Please, try to fight with it.







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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 04:01
Triumvirat - Illusions on a Double Dimple
Eloy - Live, Dawn
Klaus Schulze - Picture Music, Timewind, Mirage
Tangerine Dream - Ricochet, Rubycon, Stratosfear
Frequency Drift - Last



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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 04:21
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Okay, Mosh, now you talk again about me in a much more negative way than the reality is - which means that your 
negative energy takes again over. Please, try to fight with it.

Don't worry - Mosh treats everyone the same way, including me. You could say he's an equal opportunities scoffer and scorner, although I wouldn't say that. Tongue


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 06:22
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Don't worry - Mosh treats everyone the same way, including me. You could say he's an equal opportunities scoffer and scorner, although I wouldn't say that. Tongue

LOL

and thanks, Paul. Smile



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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 06:32
Just ignore Mosh he has a free pass to be as unpleasant as he likes.

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Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com

https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 06:39
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Just ignore Mosh he has a free pass to be as unpleasant as he likes.

Hi,

It's a shame that someone, even an Admin, does not read the post in order to determine how it is on thread, and how it was ignored. 

It's ridiculous to say that one time there was music, and then there wasn't. It's not even artistically educated whatsoever, and the number of materials that we have "discovered" from various other days, have shown that.

But we keep turning to a top five mentality, and almost all of the "progressive" folks were not about these numbers ... they were about themselves, and their art!

I just think it's time, if we are going to continue being a "progressive" music board, that we wake up to the art and the music ... music, or art, HAS NEVER DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN OR HELL. it was always there, but we don't have ears for something different, otherwise this discussion would be null and void.

I just find that David D's posts try to invent some kind of idea from its "numbers", and in all honesty, those numbers are long gone and not relevant ... but one Goon thinks that relevancy is his posts ... not the reality that the art still exists! AND IS LIVING really well!


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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 06:43
Oh I read the posts.

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https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 07:11
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Just ignore Mosh he has a free pass to be as unpleasant as he likes.

thanks, Ian Smile


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 08:33
About half of my list has been mentioned so I'll mention the other 20 plus albums.
Gunter Schikert- Uberfallig
                     - Kinder In Der Wildness
GAM- Eizsiet
Cosmic Jokers- Galactic Supermarket
Frumpy- 2
Tangerine Dream- Electronic meditation
Popol Vuh- Letzte Tage Letzte Nachte
Mythos- Mythos
Kraan- Kraan
Prosper- Broken Door
Dennis- Hyperthalamus
Can- Monster Movie
      - Delay 68
      - Soundtracks
Guru Guru- Kanguru
Ash Ra Tempel- Join Inn
                     - Schwingungen
Agitation Free- Last
Brainticket- Celestial Ocean
Et Cetera- Knircsh
Tangerine Dream- Electronic meditation
Ikarus- Ikarus
Embryo- Embryo's Rache





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"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN


Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 13:58
(One per artist)

1. Can - Tago Mago
2. Triumvirat - Spartacus
3. Holger Czukay - Movies
4. Popol Vuh - Aguirre
5. ID Company - ID Company
6. Eiliff - Eiliff
7. Tangerine Dream - Zeit
8. Kluster - Zwei-Osterei
9. Euphorium_Freakestra - Free Electric Supergroup
10. Brainstorm - Second Smile
11. Eroc - Eroc
12. Technical Space Composer's Crew - Canaxis 5


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 02:34

Paul, a bit off-topic, but I admire your psychological knowledge and wisdom, for not to talk about the goodness 
of your heart - and thank you very much again for all your help at many different occasions.  Thumbs Up Smile


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 02:43
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Paul, a bit off-topic, but I admire your psychological knowledge and wisdom, for not to talk about the goodness 
of your heart - and thank you very much again for all your help at many different occasions.  Thumbs Up Smile

Danke Schoen. Wink


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 07:32
Off the top of my head,

Can | Future Days (my #1 album all-time)
Michael Hoenig | Departure from the Northern Wasteland
Amon Düül II | Tanz der Lemminge
Kraan | Wiederhören
Embryo | Embryo’s Reise
Tangerine Dream | Phaedra
Klaus Schulze | Mirage
Faust | The Faust Tapes


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Posted By: Guy Guden
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 14:37
  far too many...  but following HolyMoly's lead with the cranial attic houseclean:  Amon Duul II, Yeti... Can, Future Days... Tangerine Dream, Atem... Klaus Schulze, Body Love... Ash Ra Tempel, Inventions for Electric Guitar... Popol Vuh, In Den Garten Pharaos, ... Eberhard Schoener, Meditation... Harmonia, Deluxe... Cosmic Jokers, s/t... Embryo, Steig Aus...  and that is only giving one selection per artist.  cheers!

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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 18:52
These are the German prog albums that I feel the most attached to:
Sylvan Posthumous Silence (2006)
Amenophis s/t (1983)
Anyone's Daughter Adonis (1979)
Sylvan Home (2015)
Sylvan Force of Gravity (2009)
Faun Eden (2011)
Faun Renaissance (2005)
Faun Luna (2014)
Fauns Awaiting the Sun (2011)
Bröselmachine s/t (1971)
Hölderlin Hölderlin's Traum (1972)
Neuschwanstein Battlement (1979)
Klaus Schulze Deus Arrakis (2022)
Klaus Schulze Kontinuum (2007)
Klaus Schulze X (1979)
Klaus Schulze Mirage (1976)
Popol Vuh Hosianna Mantra (1972)
Agitation Free Malesch (1972)
Ash Ra Tempel s/t (1971)
Tangerine Dream Rubycon (1975)
Eden Erwartung (1978)
Frequency Drift Ghosts… (2011)
Electric Orange Morbus (2007)
Electric Orange Volume 10 (2014)
Eberhard Weber The Following Morning (1977)



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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 18:20
Your list Drew reminded me that my list was all Krautrock nothing else. I need to come up with some other German albums.

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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"

"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN


Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 21:40
A few that are on peoples' lists already here.  Of these, my faves are:

Grobschnitt, Rockpommels Land
Triumvirat, Spartacus
Kraan, Kraan (which I got while in Germany)
Holderlin,  Holderlin's Traum
Can, Ege Basayami and Tago Mago
Tangerine Dream:  Rubycon and Phaedra
Frumpy 2
Popul Vuh, Hosianna Mantra

And maybe some I'm missing, but even with all these, it still seems to me that there isn't as much great Prog rock coming out of Germany as there might be.





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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 22:16
I have many:)

Can - Monster Movie, Soundtracks, Ege Bamyasi, Tago Mago, Future Days, Soon Over Babaluma (Landed is wonderful as well)

Kraftwerk - Die Mensch-Maschine and the rest - I wouldn't be without any release 1970-1986
Popol Vuh - Nosferatu: On the Way to a Little Way / Brüder Des Schattens - Söhne Des Lichts (and everything up the early 1980's)
Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket (& St.)
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (+ every relase 1971-1977++)
Klaus Schulze - Mirage (& the rest of the seventies + Dig It ÷ Dune/Picture Music)
Embryo - Stieg Aus, Reise (but they've got like six equally strong contenders)
Between - And the Waters Opened, Stille über der Zeit: Silence Beyond Time
Amon Düül II - Yeti (or: three first)
Faust - So Far (+IV)
Kraan - Kraan
Cluster - Zuckerzeit
Dzyan - Electric Silence
Harmonia - Music Von Harmonia, Deluxe, Tracks and Traces
Agitation Free - Malesch, Second
Kollektiv -  SWF-Sessions Volume 5
NEU! - NEU!, NEU! '75
Günter Schickert - Überfällig (+ GAM - Eiszeit)
A La Ping Pong - Go Go Pongs
Peter Frohmader - Nekropolis - Musik Aus Dem Schattenreich, Nekropolis 2

-Also debut -or only album by: Frankie Dymon Jr, Dom, Yatha Sidhra, Ash Ra Tempel, Deuter, Brave New World, Kalacackra, A.R + Machines, Tortilla Flat mm...

I'm certain I forgotten some essentials




Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 22:30
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I'm certain I forgotten some essentials
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Eloy  (D)  Inside (1973)

Hölderlin  (D)  -  Hölderlins Traum  (1972)

I did. Those two are great, and Doldinger's Passport-debut from 1972 is awesome too




Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 04:19
Originally posted by zwordser zwordser wrote:

Can, Ege Basayami and Tago Mago

You've got too far East with this one. LOL


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 04:23

very nice with all these new lists  Tongue


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 06:52
In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century!

 


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 07:54
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century!
I don't care. I prefer the playful and forward thinking days of kraut and cosmic - as I consider it to be Germany's peak in "popular music". For newer music I look elsewhere and not all that much towards prog. Besides I listen to music from the 14th century up to the present, so 1970's - 2020's is the same era anyway. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 08:06
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

In the OP, David made mention of German prog outside of the 1970s, and yet very, very few mentions are being made of the wonderful progressive rock music that has come out of Germany in the 21st Century. I find this neglect to be an incomplete representation as well as a slap in the face of hard-working German artists who have been creating great music since the 1970s. Are we zombies, stumbling through life somnambulistically with an ever-fixed playlist in our brains? Come on people! Wake up! Explore the very-much-alive world of this, the 21st Century!

I'm still waking up to the wonderful German prog from the classic 1970's era, having not yet made it halfway through my first A-Z playlist of German prog. I also discovered a British Krautrock band by the name of The Utopia Strong, featuring snooker legend Steve Davis, which I found Interesting. Tongue




Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 03:06

A very good book about and guide to mainly Krautrock but also other German Prog is Krautrock: Cosmic Rock 
and Its Legacy (2009) edited by Nikolaos Kotsopoulos. 


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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 03:25
Every album from Avantasia.


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 03:37
Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Every album from Avantasia.

high quality Symph Power Metal, but not really prog... Smile


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 04:08
Well, shall we really get into what is and isn't prog again? On a forum where Black Sabbath and Fairport Convention are included.
Avantasia are prog metal band with only concept albums.


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 04:20
^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog... LOL


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 05:11
I'm not getting into it. Dozens of bands on here that aren't prog or even prog related.
No one has a working definition of prog, so it remains entirely subjective.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 05:53
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog... LOL

Yes, they were rejected. 
Three most known metal sites list the band as symphonic power metal or power metal. 
I'm not at all surprised they were rejected in all honesty. 


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 13:57
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ oh come on... they aren't even on this site as Prog related and I'm sure were rejected for inclusion on a couple of occasions in the past. Just because Tobi wrote a couple of 10 minuters, doesn't make them in the slightest bit prog... LOL

Yes, they were rejected. 
Three most known metal sites list the band as symphonic power metal or power metal. 
I'm not at all surprised they were rejected in all honesty. 

I concur completely Cristi, but I can see 'J's argument from the standpoint that early on in PA's history, the Collabs let in Nightwish, Epica, Rhapsody, Blind Guardian and After Forever amongst others who clearly shouldn't be here. On that basis, it's quite reasonable to ask 'what about Avantasia then?', but then if you let them in, what about Edguy, Helloween, Gamma Ray or Lanfear? Orden Ogan wrote a loose concept, Stratovarius have written 10 minuters... and before you know it, we have a power metal avalanche.. Confused


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 20:56
Ten favourites that aren't Krautrock in no particular order.
Aera- Hand Und Fuss
The Amber Light- Goodbye To Dusk, Farewell To Dawn
Brainstorm- Second Smile
Dark Suns- Existence
Satin Whale- Desert Places
Zyma- Thoughts
Grobschnitt- s/t
Electric Moon- Stardust Rituals
Long Distance Calling- Avoid The Light
Polytoxicomane Philharmonie- Psycho Erectus




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