Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Music Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - 70's Prog from Argentina near YES level?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

70's Prog from Argentina near YES level?

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
DarksideofAbel View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 06 2024
Location: Santo Domingo
Status: Offline
Points: 177
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DarksideofAbel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: 70's Prog from Argentina near YES level?
    Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:06
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Ah! nobody mentioned Tempano from Venezuela.
Hmmmmm, I have a hunch that might be because Venezuela is an independent country (since 1811), and not a part of Argentina maybe? ;)

 I thought the topic was not only about Argentinian bands? but Latin America as well. I saw somewhere Los Jaivas and they are from Chile. 

It's all good. I'm just jokingly nitpicking. I personally think that, in terms of prog from South America, the album El Profeta by Armando Tirelli (Uruguay) is vastly overlooked. Might be due to the spoken word or the badly done reissue full of destructive noise removal. But if you look past it, it's incredible. It's a concept album based on The Prophet by Khalil Gibran. The songs tell the story based on the book, while the spoken narration interludes tell the story of Khalil Gibran himself.

Star
Back to Top
Hrychu View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 03 2013
Location: poland?
Status: Online
Points: 5722
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 23:01
Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Ah! nobody mentioned Tempano from Venezuela.
Hmmmmm, I have a hunch that might be because Venezuela is an independent country (since 1811), and not a part of Argentina maybe? ;)

 I thought the topic was not only about Argentinian bands? but Latin America as well. I saw somewhere Los Jaivas and they are from Chile. 

It's all good. I'm just jokingly nitpicking. I personally think that, in terms of prog from South America, the album El Profeta by Armando Tirelli (Uruguay) is vastly overlooked. Might be due to the spoken word or the badly done reissue full of destructive noise removal. But if you look past it, it's incredible. It's a concept album based on The Prophet by Khalil Gibran. The songs tell the story based on the book, while the spoken narration interludes tell the story of Khalil Gibran himself.
“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong
Back to Top
DarksideofAbel View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 06 2024
Location: Santo Domingo
Status: Offline
Points: 177
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DarksideofAbel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 23:01
Also I will highly recommend Pappo's Blues and Rata Blanca. Pappo's Blues was a hard rock & hard blues from Argentina which I think was fantastic.
Rata Blanca are still active and is a Metal/hard Rock band. 
Great bands to check them out if like these subgenres. 
Back to Top
DarksideofAbel View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 06 2024
Location: Santo Domingo
Status: Offline
Points: 177
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DarksideofAbel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 22:54
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Ah! nobody mentioned Tempano from Venezuela.
Hmmmmm, I have a hunch that might be because Venezuela is an independent country (since 1811), and not a part of Argentina maybe? ;)
 I thought the topic was not only about Argentinian bands? but Latin America as well. I saw someone mentioned Los Jaivas and they are from Chile. 


Edited by DarksideofAbel - June 25 2024 at 16:05
Back to Top
Hrychu View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 03 2013
Location: poland?
Status: Online
Points: 5722
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 22:51
Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Ah! nobody mentioned Tempano from Venezuela.
Hmmmmm, I have a hunch that might be because Venezuela is an independent country (since 1811), and not a part of Argentina maybe? ;)
“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong
Back to Top
DarksideofAbel View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 06 2024
Location: Santo Domingo
Status: Offline
Points: 177
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DarksideofAbel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 22:46
Ah! nobody mentioned Tempano from Venezuela. They made 3 fantastic prog albums, but be aware in the mit- 80 the band made some pop albums not horrible but for not for prog fans. Also, I want to take this oportunite and Introduce this following band. 
As I am a spanish speaker and from the Dominican Republic, however I lived in US for many years. 
There is a band from my country land that made 3 fantastic prog albums.
La inmaculada d Brevedad De La Carne. 2003
La fabulas Del Hambre. 2010
La Galaxia Canibal 2023. The latest albums is their best so far. however the debut is consider a classic. 
The band is Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic a place in the Caribbean which is extremely rare to find a band that dedicate the time making progressives music.  due to the fact that this country has a very minimal fallowing, however Metal do have more acceptances and fans. Because of that Voces En El Plasma is more a Prog Metal than Prog Rock.  However, never the less it is still recommended.


Edited by DarksideofAbel - June 24 2024 at 22:50
Back to Top
Hrychu View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 03 2013
Location: poland?
Status: Online
Points: 5722
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 22:27
Merlin - s/t (1980) is an incredible album, featuring the late Alejandro De Michele (RIP). Great songwriting sprinkled with tons of Yes-esque stylistics.
“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong
Back to Top
moshkito View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
Status: Offline
Points: 18112
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 21:59
Hi,

Quassi
Nice stuff, and describing this could be sifficult, since it borders on many areas, and I'm not sure how to describe it. It is well done, and sounds very well defined and not exactly a showy something or other, but there is some ability here, even if (at times) we might describe this as just nice music ... or what some folks used to call "easy listening" ... it's a bit more than that, though. I'm not sure what I say here is clear enough about this group's material ... from the album Mareas. But there is some really nice listening stuff. It is rather trippy and has interesting turns and touches. Nice stuff. It gets harder in the last track of the album. Still nice!

Lenin (Rio Hecho Caceria)
Surprise listen for me, mainly because this is ... how shall I say ... not a single "genre" or "style" that you are familiar with ... it is all over the place and it is strong ... and GOOD. I was already into the 3rd piece on the album, and going ... this is kinda neat ... can't place it anywhere else ... a very wide variety of touches in the rock areas, more towards the hard, and "loud", although I did not feel that things were being done for the solo effect and its loudness ... the music is better defined that that simplistic garbage. Good listen, putting to shame some of the rock choices listed monthly ... this one is special, and it is not song driven, or does the same thing in the next piece ... in some ways this is an ear pleaser. Some really nice touches all around. Good listen, and forget what kind of music this is, because it will go many places. Nice to hear something this good and far out ... and look at when ... 2010 ... special indeed, for not giving in to the commercial sound and designs. This is very spirited stuff.
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
Back to Top
moshkito View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
Status: Offline
Points: 18112
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 19:41
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

^ I appreciate your thoughts on Bubu’s newer material. I won’t be in a rush to hear it, still, but I am more inclined to listen to it now. 

...

Hi,

Bubu ... listened to various pieces from "El Eco del Sol". Very nice stuff, although I would not compare them to YES at all, since this stuff is probably more classically minded or symphonic defined to create a nice development of the instrumentation. YES, by comparison is much more rock minded and leans onto Steve Howe a lot, which made it special, but Bubu ... distributes its music amidst its many members based on what I heard, and did not fall for the rock minded "solo" details at all that I could feel.

Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
Back to Top
siLLy puPPy View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic

Joined: October 05 2013
Location: SFcaUsA
Status: Offline
Points: 15347
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote siLLy puPPy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 12:24
Another top tier jazz fusion / prog rock band from Argentina was SÍNTESIS which sadly only released one album but IMHO it's a bonafide masterpiece and one of the most accomplished slices of technical prog of the era in Argentina.

Full album here:

(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'898ebf5548f167ee',t:'MTcxOTI1MzM4OS4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">

https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy
Back to Top
sirgilmour View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie
Avatar

Joined: March 03 2019
Location: Québec
Status: Offline
Points: 1
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sirgilmour Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2024 at 11:48
In may 2024 an album came out from Julián Martínez called El silencio de las estrellas and it is as good as the best of Wakeman or Yes can be without as instrumental bliss.

Try it out and make him popular, anyone knows how to create a profile on Prog Archives for an artist that is yet to be listed?





Edited by sirgilmour - June 24 2024 at 11:48
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3573
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2021 at 07:22
David Lebon - Nayla (1980, 2nd solo album). David plays guitar & sings, and assembled a great band for this record. He was then still a member of Seru Giran, the last group founded by Charly García.

Back to Top
Manuel View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 09 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13481
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2021 at 17:11
Since every band form argentina that I know has been mentioned, and other I don't know, I just want to thank evryone for contributing to this post. I now have some music to discover.
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3573
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2021 at 16:44
Aquelarre is also a must (including terrific lyrics), I recommend specially their last two studio albums, Brumas (1974) and Siesta (1975).
Back to Top
wiz_d_kidd View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 13 2018
Location: EllicottCityMD
Status: Offline
Points: 1462
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote wiz_d_kidd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2021 at 12:45
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Nobody mentioned R-U Kaiser from Chile?

Well, if they’re from Chile, why would anyone mention them in a discussion about Argentine prog? 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🙄



Re-read the OP's post...

"I'd really appreciate it if you guys check it out and let me know what prog from South America you are into!"
Back to Top
nick_h_nz View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team

Joined: March 01 2013
Location: Suffolk, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 6737
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nick_h_nz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2021 at 10:36
^ I appreciate your thoughts on Bubu’s newer material. I won’t be in a rush to hear it, still, but I am more inclined to listen to it now. While it’s obviously going to be somewhat incomparable to Anabelas, it doesn’t sound as bad as I feared it might.

As for the SA part of the OP, I admit I missed that line somehow, or perhaps just forgot about it.

There’s definitely a LOT of SA music I listen to, so including more than just Argentine bands would take me some time. Then again, I guess the OP was looking to keep around the symphonic prog sound, so that would definitely narrow down my list(s) somewhat.

Back to Top
Logan View Drop Down
Forum & Site Admin Group
Forum & Site Admin Group
Avatar
Site Admin

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
Status: Online
Points: 37386
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2021 at 10:16
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Plenty I love from South America, but my favourite from Argentina is Bubu's Anabelas. As a three track album, I have said various times that I find it far better than Yes' Close to the Edge. To me it is one of the very great albums in PA.


Absolutely this! It’s easily one of the very great albums in PA for me, too. So much so, that I’ve never been able to bring myself to listen to the newer Bubu releases, because I know I will surely only be disappointed…..


Have you been braver than me, Greg? What’s your opinion?



I have heard it, but not many times and not for a while. I was very reluctant to listen to it, I think that it's a very good album and an excellent return but I didn't warm up to it as much as I might have hoped. I really like the opening track and various other music off it and I recognise the quality of it all but the production/ mixing sounds a bit too slick to my ears and it is going for more heavy rock approach than jazzy approach (bass and drums rather than the more acoustic approach of Anabelas) which makes it less enjoyable to me. With Anabelas, I loved that fusion of western art more academic classical music, jazz and rock, as well as the contrast of elegant and quirky (rather circus like at times). This does sound like a follow-up to Anabelas, and I imagine these pieces had been thought about for many years, but while I think the compositions are very good and the execution is well-done, ultimately I would have preferred some different instrumentation, a lighter-touch at times and a rather different production over-all (it sounds modern in a way that I kind of wish it didn't).

So, mostly very good stuff, just not quite my thing over-all. Had this been made in 1979, I think I would hold it in much higher regard, but then I think some of the choices then would have suited my ears better.

What it reminded me of in part was Kotebel's Omphalos.

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Nobody mentioned R-U Kaiser from Chile?



Well, if they’re from Chile, why would anyone mention them in a discussion about Argentine prog? 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🙄



The OP does say at the end of the post

Originally posted by Blood Wake Blood Wake wrote:

I'd really appreciate it if you guys check it out and let me know what prog from South America you are into!


I was thinking about making a list from South America generally.

Edited by Logan - November 15 2021 at 10:27
Back to Top
nick_h_nz View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team

Joined: March 01 2013
Location: Suffolk, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 6737
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nick_h_nz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2021 at 09:30
Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Nobody mentioned R-U Kaiser from Chile?

Well, if they’re from Chile, why would anyone mention them in a discussion about Argentine prog? 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🙄

Back to Top
wiz_d_kidd View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 13 2018
Location: EllicottCityMD
Status: Offline
Points: 1462
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wiz_d_kidd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2021 at 09:21
Nobody mentioned R-U Kaiser from Chile?

Back to Top
Progmind View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 29 2010
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3458
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Progmind Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2021 at 08:08
Great!! I´m Argentinean and I recommend you

Bauer - Astronauta Olvidado 
Nexus - Perpetuum Karma 
Agnus - Pinturas y Expresiones
Amagrama - Ciclotimia
Pescado Rabioso - Artaud
Spinetta Jade - Alma de Diamante
Arco Iris - Agitor Lucens V
Jinetes Negros - Tawa Sariwa
Invisible - El Jardían de los Presentes
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.229 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.