70's Prog from Argentina near YES level?
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Topic: 70's Prog from Argentina near YES level?
Posted By: Blood Wake
Subject: 70's Prog from Argentina near YES level?
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 12:07
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Hey guys! Lately I've been learning Spanish and of course listening to and translating music is a very helpful activity. So I spiraled down many rabbit holes but found that the 70's prog scene from Argentina does it for me best. Have you guys listened to bands like Crucis and Invisible? I'm way into Charly Garcia and failing to find documentaries about him in English has lead to me creating my own and I'd really appreciate it if you gave my mini-doc a chance and learn the interesting story of Charly's stab at symphonic prog with his supergroup called La Máquina De Hacer Pájaros. I think it's a really fascinating short story, with the involvement of a military uprising and a bit of drama, I also added just a snippet of my friends and I covering the song, "Bubulina." I'd really appreciate it if you guys check it out and let me know what prog from South America you are into! https://youtu.be/zDgBcKkEjuo ------------- Music is my gospel and I preach with my picking hand. -Harry Chapin. Not prog but still cool. Haha I make mini-docs on lesser-known classic prog acts. http://SeansMusicHunt.com |
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 12:20
Hey,My South American albumsMutantes (BRA) - Tudo Foi Feito Pelo Sol (1974) Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho (BRA) - Paêbirú (1975) Crucis (ARG) - Los Delirios del Mariscal (1976) MIA (ARG) - Cornonstipicum (1978) Los Jaivas (Chile) - Alturas de Machu Pichu (1981) Flor De Loto (Peru) - Flor De Loto (2005) Best ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 12:30
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MIA - Cornonstipicum (1978) is indeed one of Argentina's most accomplished prog masterpieces of the 70s in my world. The previous two albums are well worth the time as well but the third is on another level. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2559" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2559  -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 12:34
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Thirded for MIA. That's a classic. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 12:50
Try this (if you haven't yet): Band: Espíritu Album: Crisálida Year: 1975 |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 12:53
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Plenty I love from South America, but my favourite from Argentina is Bubu's Anabelas. As a three track album, I have said various times that I find it far better than Yes' Close to the Edge. To me it is one of the very great albums in PA. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 13:01
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For sure in addition to M.I.A. Bubu La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros Alas El Reloj Arco Iris Sui Generis Pez Invisible Spinetta Vox Dei Crucis there are many more i haven't heard http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/g:progressive%2drock/loc:argentina/exc:live,archival/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/g:progressive%2drock/loc:argentina/exc:live,archival/
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 13:11
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Rayuela's self-titled and only album is excellent. Its sub-genre is Jazz Rock/Fusion though, on this site. Pleasant and easy to get into, whilst also being top-quality prog. I can't remember listening to a symphonic prog band from Argentina. |
Posted By: Blood Wake
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 13:29
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Lots of great bands listed here! I know of MIA but haven't actually listened yet.... Heard most the others listed though. Glad someone mentioned Pez. What a rad band!! ------------- Music is my gospel and I preach with my picking hand. -Harry Chapin. Not prog but still cool. Haha I make mini-docs on lesser-known classic prog acts. http://SeansMusicHunt.com |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 13:36
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Bubu’s “Anabelas” is hard to beat for Argentinian symphonic prog. It’s easily one of the greatest prog albums from the classic ‘70s era, and probably is only not so well known because of its country of origin. If you’ve not heard Anabelas, you really need to do so. I’d also recommend Akenathon: https://viajeroinmovilrecords.bandcamp.com/album/akenathon-como-hormigas-2020" rel="nofollow - https://viajeroinmovilrecords.bandcamp.com/album/akenathon-como-hormigas-2020 And, from the same label, Lenin: https://viajeroinmovilrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lenin-r-o-hecho-cacer-a-2010" rel="nofollow - https://viajeroinmovilrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lenin-r-o-hecho-cacer-a-2010 Qüassi: https://quassi.bandcamp.com/album/mareas" rel="nofollow - https://quassi.bandcamp.com/album/mareas Rodrigo San Martin has many different bands, as well as a solo career, and is well worth seeking out. You may not like everything he does, but there’s bound to be something you’ll like. Other Argentine bands I like are Áuryn, Defórmica, Gardenia, Montenegro, Vlad Tepes and Vólkova, but a lot of those won’t scratch your itch. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 13:38
Absolutely this! It’s easily one of the very great albums in PA for me, too. So much so, that I’ve never been able to bring myself to listen to the newer Bubu releases, because I know I will surely only be disappointed….. https://bubuprog.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - https://bubuprog.bandcamp.com/ Have you been braver than me, Greg? What’s your opinion? ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Logan wrote:Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 14 2021 at 13:43
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 07:31
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I understand that you are paying attention to Spanish lyrics. Give a try to Alejandro Matos ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 08:08
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the Invisible albums are great! Also loving Pablo "El Enterrador"--though it's an 80s album and a Genesis imitator, not Yes. Don't know much of the others--have heard snippets of Crucis, La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros, El Reloj, Sui Generis, and Bubu--and, of course, Nexus and Factor Burzaco/Carolina Restuccia. Looking forward to checking out more from the bands suggested here. Great thread! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 08:08
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Great!! I´m Argentinean and I recommend you Bauer - Astronauta Olvidado Nexus - Perpetuum Karma Agnus - Pinturas y Expresiones Amagrama - Ciclotimia Pescado Rabioso - Artaud Spinetta Jade - Alma de Diamante Arco Iris - Agitor Lucens V Jinetes Negros - Tawa Sariwa Invisible - El Jardían de los Presentes
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 09:21
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Nobody mentioned R-U Kaiser from Chile? |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 09:30
Well, if they’re from Chile, why would anyone mention them in a discussion about Argentine prog? 🤷🏻♂️ 🙄 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 10:16
I have heard it, but not many times and not for a while. I was very reluctant to listen to it, I think that it's a very good album and an excellent return but I didn't warm up to it as much as I might have hoped. I really like the opening track and various other music off it and I recognise the quality of it all but the production/ mixing sounds a bit too slick to my ears and it is going for more heavy rock approach than jazzy approach (bass and drums rather than the more acoustic approach of Anabelas) which makes it less enjoyable to me. With Anabelas, I loved that fusion of western art more academic classical music, jazz and rock, as well as the contrast of elegant and quirky (rather circus like at times). This does sound like a follow-up to Anabelas, and I imagine these pieces had been thought about for many years, but while I think the compositions are very good and the execution is well-done, ultimately I would have preferred some different instrumentation, a lighter-touch at times and a rather different production over-all (it sounds modern in a way that I kind of wish it didn't). So, mostly very good stuff, just not quite my thing over-all. Had this been made in 1979, I think I would hold it in much higher regard, but then I think some of the choices then would have suited my ears better. What it reminded me of in part was Kotebel's Omphalos.
The OP does say at the end of the post
I was thinking about making a list from South America generally. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 10:36
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^ I appreciate your thoughts on Bubu’s newer material. I won’t be in a rush to hear it, still, but I am more inclined to listen to it now. While it’s obviously going to be somewhat incomparable to Anabelas, it doesn’t sound as bad as I feared it might. As for the SA part of the OP, I admit I missed that line somehow, or perhaps just forgot about it. There’s definitely a LOT of SA music I listen to, so including more than just Argentine bands would take me some time. Then again, I guess the OP was looking to keep around the symphonic prog sound, so that would definitely narrow down my list(s) somewhat. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 12:45
Re-read the OP's post... "I'd really appreciate it if you guys check it out and let me know what prog from South America you are into!"
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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 16:44
| Aquelarre is also a must (including terrific lyrics), I recommend specially their last two studio albums, Brumas (1974) and Siesta (1975). |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 17:11
| Since every band form argentina that I know has been mentioned, and other I don't know, I just want to thank evryone for contributing to this post. I now have some music to discover. |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: November 16 2021 at 07:22
David Lebon - Nayla (1980, 2nd solo album). David plays guitar & sings, and assembled a great band for this record. He was then still a member of Seru Giran, the last group founded by Charly García.
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Posted By: sirgilmour
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 11:48
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In may 2024 an album came out from Julián Martínez called El silencio de las estrellas and it is as good as the best of Wakeman or Yes can be without as instrumental bliss. Try it out and make him popular, anyone knows how to create a profile on Prog Archives for an artist that is yet to be listed?
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 12:24
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Another top tier jazz fusion / prog rock band from Argentina was SÍNTESIS which sadly only released one album but IMHO it's a bonafide masterpiece and one of the most accomplished slices of technical prog of the era in Argentina. Full album here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_42t39Ig1U&ab_channel=PsychedelicSapiens" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_42t39Ig1U&ab_channel=PsychedelicSapiens http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9906" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9906
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 19:41
Hi, Bubu ... listened to various pieces from "El Eco del Sol". Very nice stuff, although I would not compare them to YES at all, since this stuff is probably more classically minded or symphonic defined to create a nice development of the instrumentation. YES, by comparison is much more rock minded and leans onto Steve Howe a lot, which made it special, but Bubu ... distributes its music amidst its many members based on what I heard, and did not fall for the rock minded "solo" details at all that I could feel. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 21:59
Hi, Quassi Nice stuff, and describing this could be sifficult, since it borders on many areas, and I'm not sure how to describe it. It is well done, and sounds very well defined and not exactly a showy something or other, but there is some ability here, even if (at times) we might describe this as just nice music ... or what some folks used to call "easy listening" ... it's a bit more than that, though. I'm not sure what I say here is clear enough about this group's material ... from the album Mareas. But there is some really nice listening stuff. It is rather trippy and has interesting turns and touches. Nice stuff. It gets harder in the last track of the album. Still nice! Lenin (Rio Hecho Caceria) Surprise listen for me, mainly because this is ... how shall I say ... not a single "genre" or "style" that you are familiar with ... it is all over the place and it is strong ... and GOOD. I was already into the 3rd piece on the album, and going ... this is kinda neat ... can't place it anywhere else ... a very wide variety of touches in the rock areas, more towards the hard, and "loud", although I did not feel that things were being done for the solo effect and its loudness ... the music is better defined that that simplistic garbage. Good listen, putting to shame some of the rock choices listed monthly ... this one is special, and it is not song driven, or does the same thing in the next piece ... in some ways this is an ear pleaser. Some really nice touches all around. Good listen, and forget what kind of music this is, because it will go many places. Nice to hear something this good and far out ... and look at when ... 2010 ... special indeed, for not giving in to the commercial sound and designs. This is very spirited stuff. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 22:27
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Merlin - s/t (1980) is an incredible album, featuring the late Alejandro De Michele (RIP). Great songwriting sprinkled with tons of Yes-esque stylistics. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 22:46
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Ah! nobody mentioned Tempano from Venezuela. They made 3 fantastic prog albums, but be aware in the mit- 80 the band made some pop albums not horrible but for not for prog fans. Also, I want to take this oportunite and Introduce this following band. As I am a spanish speaker and from the Dominican Republic, however I lived in US for many years. There is a band from my country land that made 3 fantastic prog albums. La inmaculada d Brevedad De La Carne. 2003 La fabulas Del Hambre. 2010 La Galaxia Canibal 2023. The latest albums is their best so far. however the debut is consider a classic. The band is Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic a place in the Caribbean which is extremely rare to find a band that dedicate the time making progressives music. due to the fact that this country has a very minimal fallowing, however Metal do have more acceptances and fans. Because of that Voces En El Plasma is more a Prog Metal than Prog Rock. However, never the less it is still recommended.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 22:51
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 22:54
I thought the topic was not only about Argentinian bands? but Latin America as well. I saw someone mentioned Los Jaivas and they are from Chile.
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Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 23:01
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Also I will highly recommend Pappo's Blues and Rata Blanca. Pappo's Blues was a hard rock & hard blues from Argentina which I think was fantastic. Rata Blanca are still active and is a Metal/hard Rock band. Great bands to check them out if like these subgenres.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 24 2024 at 23:01
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:06
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