Top 10 Post Gabriel Genesis Songs |
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Magog2112
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1. Ripples 2. Blood On the Rooftops 3. Entangled 4. One for the Vine 5. Mama 6. Fading Lights 7. Mad Man Moon 8. Eleventh Earl of Mar 9. Duchess 10. Los Endos
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Philchem8
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Haha, I calculated the ranking of all the songs because this was after all what the creator of this thread, Father Christmas, had intended. It was just a fun thing to do, and one should not take it too seriously. For those who care, it does help to show which songs from an artist/band appear the most appreciated within the Prog Archive community (or at least those who participate), which is perhaps a fairly representative microcosm of prog listeners generally. For those who don't care, no harm done.
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Cristi
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yes you did, but you were worried about rankings which in this case, you should not.
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mellotronwave
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that's what I did ;-) |
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Logan
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Lots of people have been ranking their choices from 1 to ten, and it started off with listing your choices in order of preference and having the OP tabulating the results -- the OP has been gone for over a year -- and Paul took over, and of course PhilChem's contribution.
I too often prefer not to rank my choices and instead just list them in any order (often preferring not to make sport of art -- not having these things as games or sort of contests). EDIT: I do have a number one in this case, and it is Blood on the Rooftops. My list, and I will rank them this time even if I could easily change the order and some listings: 1. Blood on the Rooftops 2. Ripples 3. Entangled 4. One for the Vine 5. Squonk 6. Los Endos 7. Mad Man Moon 8. Deep in the Motherlode 9. Dance on a Volcano 10: Burning Rope Edited by Logan - January 28 2022 at 12:21 |
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Rednight
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^Not true. Just ask Philchem8.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Cristi
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Ranking?! You are the only one thinking about it. Just list 10 songs you enjoy/love.
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mellotronwave
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Entangled/inside and out (non LP track)/ Dance on a volcano/Los Endos/Eleventh earl of Mar/ Unquiet slumbers... quiet earth/Squonk/Duke's travel... duke's end/Wot gorilla/ Mad mam moon
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I see I posted on here a while ago. While I still stand behind my top ten, "man of our times" is one that has grown on me. I've also always liked "man on the corner" although it's not quite a top tenner for me. Others that don't quite make it for me are:
Down And Out Follow You Follow Me Silver Rainbow Mama Congo Fading Lights Misunderstanding Turn It On Again (although it could make my top ten now or at least maybe number 11) Duchess (not sure how it didn't make my initial top ten but it probably would now) Tonight, Tonight, Tonight (this was played to death on the radio but I really like the middle part especially)
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Philchem8
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I thought it was time to have another tally for
this poll and since Father Christmas does not seem to be around (I hope he is
doing well!), I took it upon myself to do the math, which admittedly has left
me with a slight headache. I was as careful as possible, but any one is
welcomed to check in case there are any doubts. A few minor caveats to consider
first: - It was agreed in some cases that two tracks would count as one (i.e.
Unquiet slumbers/In that quiet earth, Duke's travels/Duke's end, Home by the
sea 1&2). This may have given these tracks an advantage as some voters seem
to be voting just for one or the other of the two, but generally this should
not have played an important factor - Psychedelic Paul originally voted only for 3 songs, but later named
all the tracks from ATOTT plus Your Own Special Way and Follow You, Follow Me,
without providing a ranking. So I only included his 3 top songs, but it would
be easy to adjust if he decided to rank his top 10 - A FlowerKingCrimson included 11 songs by squeezing in two songs at #5
(nice try J), so I ignored his
last song - Rednight provided a list organized from 1-10, but said these were not necessarily
in order of preference. However, I counted them as if they were in order of preference
as I could see no other way to include them. So, here are the best post-Peter Gabriel Genesis songs and their scores according to the educated tastes of 33 ProgArchives voters (I thought it would be interesting to see the songs beyond just the top 10, so its a top 20 list): 1. One for the Vine - 328 (very appropriate title for the #1) 2. Dance on a Volcano 290 3. Ripples 253 4. Entangled 216 5. Blood on the Rooftops 198 6. Los Endos 173 7. Mad Man Moon 172 8. Eleventh Earl of Mar 155 9. Dukes Travels/Dukes End 141 10. Mama 138 11. Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers/In That Quiet Earth 136 12. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea 135 13. Squonk 114 14. Burning Rope 75 15. Down and Out - 71 16. Afterglow 69 17. Behind the Lines 66 18. Heathaze 62 19. Dodo/Lurker 60 20. Undertow 47 Bubbling under are Turn it on Again (46) and Domino (44). A few observations. While it is not surprising that the highest scoring tracks are from the first two post-Gabriel albums, since this is after all a prog site, many if not most voters also included songs from Genesis more mainstream periods in their top 10. In all, 55 songs received at least one mention in a top 10 list, including all from ATOTT, W&W and ATTWT, most from Duke and Abacab, and several from Genesis and Invisible Touch. I think only one track from their last album received a vote: Congo from Calling All Stations. People may be familiar with the top 10 list of Genesis songs
compiled by Prog Magazine (The
10 Best Genesis Songs voted for by Prog readers | Louder (loudersound.com),
supposedly voted by 40,000 readers. Interestingly, the only two post-Gabriel
songs that made that list are Ripples (at #9) and Dance on a Volcano (at #10),
which seems pretty consistent with our little poll, with the important
exception of One for the Vine coming in first (incidentally my #1 as well J). |
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Cristi
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you know, you can start that discussion, create a poll or a thread, or is it you want someone else to do it for you?
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Saperlipopette!
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Admittedly I've never listened enough to any album
post-W&W/Hackett, to really to have really gotten a whole lot of the
songs under my skin. I "like" 80's genesis and own most of the albums
as well (up to and including their self-titled), but I never actually
choose to listen to them. My only recollection of Abacab is that
"Keep it Dark"-video and I remember thinking that Jude Law must get the
role as Phil Collins if they ever made a biopic or a "Bohemian
Rhapsody/Rocket Man"-styled Genesis-movie. So no real surprises here I
suppose... Dance On A Volcano One For The Vine Home By the Sea/Second Home By the Sea Entangled Los Endos Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers... That's All Mama Eleventh Earl Of Mar ...In That Quiet Earth |
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Sacro_Porgo
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Love Gabriel's solo stuff. Melt is a masterpiece through and through, and So has a lot of emotional replay value for me.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Sacro_Porgo
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What I'm wondering is, if there were a post-Hackett version of this thread rather than just post-Gabriel, would people put in the entirety of ATTWT before even considering Land Of Confusion, or That's All?
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Sacro_Porgo
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Ha! That's fair enough. For what it's worth, it was the prog era that made me first take a real interest in Genesis, though I had known their pop hits for many years. I just happened to discover that I quite like every era of this band, just the players and the kinds of music they like to make. One of my absolute favorites!
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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projeKct
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I don't understand your comment. First of all, almost all tracks in this poll are from the 70's. See on page 3 for the last top 10 : 1 Dance On Volcano 242 2 One for the Vine 216 3 Blood On the Rooftops 178 4 Los Endos 163 5 Ripples 148 6 Eleventh Earl Of Mar 140 7 Entangled 133 = Mad Man Moon 133 9 Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers...In That Quiet Earth 120 10 Duke's Travels 114 Maybe we could update this top someday... And I love Genesis from the 70's, but also some tracks from the 80's and 90's. Same thing for the Peter Gabriel solo stuff! And... I also love many Nino Ferrer songs!
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Philchem8
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Actually it seems many of the top songs overall are from the late 70s but I for one like a lot of Gabriel solo stuff and would be happy if someone started a discussion on that. Edited by Philchem8 - January 11 2022 at 17:31 |
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Boojieboy
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I thought this was going to be the opposite: Top 10 post-Genesis Peter Gabriel (i.e. solo), which would have been interesting, instead of the tired old poppy "Genesis" from the 80's and 90s.
Moribund the Burgermeister, Mother of Violence, I Don't Remember, etc. Maybe no one really cares about that music.
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Philchem8
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Maybe we should rename you Sacro-Pop then 😁. Good reflections on Phil Collins. He certainly has a knack but I still prefer the writing of Banks and Rutherford generally. Why Banks could not come up with better material as a solo artist is a mystery to me. |
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Sacro_Porgo
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I love both Heathaze and Please Don't Ask. The former has an achingly yearning chorus that really sees Collins step into his own as a dramatic balladeer, with a lyric I cannot forget: "the trees and I are shaken by the same wind, but whereas the trees will lose their withered leaves, I just can't seem to let them loose..." Powerful. The latter shows an early example of Phil's excellent knack for writing about failed relationships, and especially for embodying someone who knows things have gone bad and sincerely wishes to make them right again, but just doesn't know how. It's the resignation of knowing things won't change juxtaposed with the desperation for something better, plus Rutherfords sexy guitar licks painting a new warm color in Genesis' often icy canvas.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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