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Topic: Top 10 Post Gabriel Genesis SongsPosted By: FatherChristmas
Subject: Top 10 Post Gabriel Genesis Songs
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 07:38
I'm making this thread not only because it was requested, but also in order to provide more insight into Genesis's post Gabriel songs (you will notice the entirety of Psychedelic Paul's current overall top 5 Genesis songs are from the 1971-3 period). I was even thinking of restricting it to post-Hackett as the TOTT and W&W tracks might be the only ones chosen, but I even saw a post saying Mama was an incredible song, so who knows what the future may hold!! (Squonk19, perhaps? )
I have also decided to make this a top ten poll, because why not?
I'll be adding up the songs by points in that nice, efficient way Psychedelic Paul does it.
1st song - 30 points
2nd song - 20 points
3rd song - 15 points
4th song - 12 points
5th song - 10 points
6th song - 6 points
7th song - 5 points
8th song - 4 points
9th song - 3 points
10th song - 2 points
My top ten:
1. Mama (30)
2. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea* (20)
3. Los Endos (15)
4. Domino (12)
5. Duke's Travels (10)
6. Squonk (6)
7. Fading Lights (5)
8. One for the Vine (4)
9. Follow You, Follow Me (3)
10. Duchess (2)
With Turn it on Again at a close 11th place.
*Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea is only accepted as one song, since they basically are the same song.
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Replies: Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 07:41
Oh no. Just realised I forgot to pluralise the word song. Just ignore it.
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 07:44
Thanks for the mention, although at the moment, I can only come up with three post-Gabriel songs:-
1. Ripples (30 points)
2. Follow You, Follow Me (20 points)
3. One for the Vine (15 points)
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 07:45
FatherChristmas wrote:
Oh no. Just realised I forgot to pluralise the word song. Just ignore it.
It's okay. You can still edit the title of your thread.
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 07:48
^Can you? I wasn't aware of that, how do you do it?
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 07:51
1. One For the Vine
2. Blood On the Rooftops
3. Dance On Volcano
4. All In a Mouse´s Night
5. Los Endos
6. Duchess
7. Dodo/Lurker
8. Me & Sarah Jane
9. Man Of Our Times
10. Burning Rope
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 07:52
FatherChristmas wrote:
^Can you? I wasn't aware of that, how do you do it?
Just go to "Post Options" on your first post and then click on "Edit"
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 08:00
Top ten update, with Psychedelic Paul's votes added:
1. Mama & Ripples (30)
2. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
3. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
4. One for the Vine (19)
5. Los Endos (15)
6. Domino (12)
7. Duke’s Travels (10)
8. Squonk (6)
9. Fading Lights (5)
10. Duchess (2)
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 08:01
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
^Can you? I wasn't aware of that, how do you do it?
Just go to "Post Options" on your first post and then click on "Edit"
Thanks.
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 08:08
By the way, I'd normally list two songs separately in the poll if they both happen to have the same number of points. Like this:-
1. Mama (30)
1. Ripples (30)
3. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
4. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
5. One for the Vine (19)
6. Los Endos (15)
7. Domino (12)
8. Duke’s Travels (10)
9. Squonk (6)
10. Fading Lights (5)
11. Duchess (2)
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 08:12
1. Dance on a Volcano
2. Behind the Lines
3. On for the Vine
4. Squonk
5. ..In That Quiet Earth
6. Turn it on Again
7. Keep it Dark
8. It's Gonna Get Better
9. Mad Man Moon
10. Duke's Travels
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 08:18
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
By the way, I'd normally list two songs separately in the poll if they both happen to have the same number of points. Like this:-
1. Mama (30)
1. Ripples (30)
3. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
4. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
5. One for the Vine (19)
6. Los Endos (15)
7. Domino (12)
8. Duke’s Travels (10)
9. Squonk (6)
10. Fading Lights (5)
11. Duchess (2)
Alright, whatever floats your boat!
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 08:34
Top ten update, with Argo 2112's votes added:
1. One for the Vine (34)
2. Mama (30)
2. Ripples (30)
2. Dance on a Volcano (30)
5. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
6. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
6. Behind the Lines (20)
8. Squonk (18)
9. Los Endos (15)
10. Domino (12)
10. Duke’s Travels (12)
12...In That Quiet Earth(10)
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 09:06
1. Ripples
2. Los Endos
3. One For The Vine
4. Dance On A Volcano
5. The Lady Lies
6. Blood On The Rooftops
7. All In A Mouse's Night
8. Many Too Many
9. In That Quiet Earth
10. Eleventh Earl Of Mar
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 09:22
Top ten update, with Mirakaze's votes added:
1 Ripples (60)
2. One for the Vine (49)
3. Dance on a Volcano (42)
4. Los Endos (35)
5. Mama (30)
6. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
7. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
7. Behind the Lines (20)
9. Squonk (18
10. Domino (12)
10. Duke’s Travels (12)
12...In That Quiet Earth(13)
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 09:27
^ Shouldn't Squonk be in ninth place if it's on 18 points?
Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 09:33
Eleventh earl of mar Blood on the rooftops Mad man moon Ripples Home by the sea/second home by the sea One for the vine Duchess Dance on a volcano Unquiet slumber/in that quiet earth* Man of our times.
* i have coupled these songs for the same reason as home by the sea/ 2nd home was counted as one song.
Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 09:50
Blood on Rooftops
Ripples Los Endos
Home by the sea suite
Eleventh earl of mar
Duke's Travels
Entangled Duchess
One for the Vine
Domino
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 12:25
Top ten update:
1 Ripples (92)
2. One for the Vine (58)
3. Blood OnThe Rooftops (56)
4. Eleventh Earl OfMar(52)
5. Los Endos (50)
6. Dance on a Volcano (46)
7. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (42)
8. Mama (30)
9. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
10.Behind the Lines (20)
11.Duke’s Travels (18)
11. Squonk (18)
11. Mad Man Moon(18)
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 12:28
^ YaaaaY!! Ripples is winning! My favourite Genesis song with Phil Collins on vocals.
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 12:56
Winning by mile, as well. You're clearly not the only one who likes it!
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 13:09
FatherChristmas wrote:
Winning by mile, as well. You're clearly not the only one who likes it!
Yes, I'm experiencing Ripples of excitement at the thought of my favourite post-Gabriel Genesis song actually going on to win this poll.
Annie Haslam of Renaissance performed an even better version of the song, in my opinion.
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 13:11
1. Squonk
2. Dance on a Volcano
3. Blood on the Rooftops
4. Entangled
5. One for the Vine
6. Los Endos
7. Undertow
8. Afterglow
9. Mad Man Moon
10. Wot Gorilla
------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 14:57
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 15:15
1. Heathaze 2. Blood On the Rooftops 3. Mad Man Moon 4. Home By the Sea 5. Me and Sarah Jane 6. Squonk 7. One For the Vine 8. Eleventh Earl of Mar 9. Entangled 10. Man of Our Times
...and not necessarily in that order.
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 15:18
Er, trade out Me and Sarah Jane for Dance On a Volcano.
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 16:32
Think I'll struggle to mention 10 that I like:
Squonk
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight,
Mama,
Congo,
I Can't dance
In the Glow of the Night
The Brazillian
Turn it On again
Abacab
Robbery, Assualt & Battery
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 22:10
1. One for the Vine. 2. Home by the sea / second home by the sea. 3. Mama. 4. Unquiet slumbers for the sleepers... on that quiet Earth. 5. Duke's travels. 6. Entangled. 7. Afterglow. 8. Land of Confusion. 9. The Brazilian. 10. Tonight, tonight, tonight.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 15 2020 at 22:17
1. Unquiet Slumbers for the sleepers
2. Afterglow
3. Dance on a volcano
4. Home by the sea/second home by the sea
5. Entangled
5. Abacab
6. Domino parts one and two
7. Dukes travels/dukes end
8. Burning Rope
9. Many too many
10. The Brazilian
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 01:52
1. Undertow
2. Dance on a Volcano
3. Entangled
4. Los Endos
5. The Brazilian
6. Mama
7. In That Quiet Earth
8. Afterglow
9. The Lady Lies
10. Robbery Assault and Battery
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 02:08
It looks like Father Christmas is going to have his work cut out in updating the Top 10 when he comes back online.
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 02:28
10. Heathaze
9. Scenes From A Night`s Dream
8. Ripples
7. One For The Vine
6. Afterglow
5. Burning Rope
4. Say It`s Alright Joe
3. Entangled
2. Mama
1. Mad Man Moon
------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
Music Is Live
Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed.
Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… <
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 03:40
1. Los Endos
2. Dance On Volcano
3. Trick Of The Tail
4. Entangled
5. Mad man moon
6. Ripples
7. One For The Vine
8. Blood On The Rooftops
9. All In A Mouse's Night
10. Eleventh Earl Of Mar
Bubbling under:
Robbery Assault & Battery Unquiet slumber/in that quiet earth
Down and Out
Deep In The Motherlode
Burning Rope
Duke Suite
That's All
Home By The Sea
Squonk
As you'll notice, it's impossible to squeak in a non-"Trick track" in the top 6
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 05:00
I'm really sorry, but I have to be of PA for about a week for private reasons. It was completely unexpected, I haven't had time to add up the scores. Sorry.
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 05:29
FatherChristmas wrote:
I'm really sorry, but I have to be of PA for about a week for private reasons. It was completely unexpected, I haven't had time to add up the scores. Sorry.
Would you like me to add up the scores?
Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 13:39
1: Ripples - 30
2: Dance on a Volcano - 20
3: Eleventh Earl of Mar - 15
4: Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers… / …In That Quiet Earth - 12
5: Entangled - 10
6: Duke’s Travels / Duke’s End - 6
7: A Trick of the Tail - 5
8: One for the Vine - 4
9: Los Endos - 3
10: Turn It On Again - 2
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 15:46
1. Eleventh Earl of Mar
2. Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers / ... In That Quiet Earth
3. Dance on a Volcano
4. Down and Out
5. Dodo / Lurker
6. Undertow
7. Mad Man Moon
8. Domino
9. Duke's Travels / Duke's End
X. Burning Rope
-------------
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 18:32
Very hard to choose... and even more to rank!
1. Dance on a Volcano
2. Duke's Travels
3. Afterglow
4. Mad Man Moon
5. Eleventh Earl of Mar
6. Los Endos
7. ...In That Quiet Earth
8. Second Home by the Sea
9. Blood on the Rooftops
10. One for the Vine
Bonus:
11. Entangled
12. Mama
13. No Son of Mine
14. Fading Lights
15. Down and Out
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: August 17 2020 at 17:44
1. Los Endos
2. Blood On The Rooftops
3. Entangled
4. Mama
5. Mad man moon
6. Ripples
7. One For The Vine
8. Dance On Volcano
9. All In A Mouse's Night
10. Eleventh Earl Of Mar
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 17 2020 at 23:39
1. Mad Man Moon
2. Squonk
3. Blood On The Rooftops
4. Burning Rope (this song seems to get forgotten about)
5. Deep In The Motherlode
6. Duke's Travels
7. The Day The Light Went Out (can I have this as it wasn't a studio album release originally?)
8. Fading Lights
9. Domino
10.Keep It Dark
11.Dance On A Volcano (if 7 doesn't count)
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 18 2020 at 01:32
1 - One for the Vine 2 - Dance on a Volcano 3 - Down & Out 4 - Los Endos 5 - Dukes Travels 6 - Burning Rope 7 - Blood on the Rooftops 8 - Eleventh Earl of Mar 9 - Fading Lights 10 - Domino
I could have chosen a dozen more tbh, but this will do for today..
Sorry to Squonk, Entangled, Undertow, Ripples, In that Quiet Earth, The Lady Lies, Turn it on Again, Man of our Times, Dodo, Mama, Home by the Sea, and yes...even Silver Rainbow..
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 18 2020 at 11:14
1. Duke's Travels/Duke's End
2. Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers/In That Quiet Earth
3. Dodo/Lurker
4. Down and Out
5. Eleventh Earl of Mar
6. Squonk
7. Snowbound
8. Me and Sarah Jane
9. The Lady Lies
10. Dance on a Volcano
------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: August 23 2020 at 00:40
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^ YaaaaY!! Ripples is winning! My favourite Genesis song with Phil Collins on vocals.
Ironic. Can't get it into the top 10 list of Genesis.
Posted By: bender99
Date Posted: August 25 2020 at 19:54
1 One For The Vine
2 Behind The Lines
3 Eleventh Earl Of Mar
4 Down And Out
5 Abacab
6 Cul-De-Sac
7 Dance On A Volcano
8 Dukes Travels
9 Ballad Of Big
10 Deep In The Motherlode
Posted By: bender99
Date Posted: August 25 2020 at 22:12
Since the OP hasn't been around, I thought I'd calculate the current standings. here's the top 10 at the moment:
1
Dance On Volcano
242
2
One for the Vine
216
3
Blood On the Rooftops
178
4
Los Endos
163
5
Ripples
148
6
Eleventh Earl Of Mar
140
7
Entangled
133
=
Mad Man Moon
133
9
Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers...In That Quiet Earth
120
10
Duke's Travels
114
Posted By: ProgLin
Date Posted: January 01 2022 at 14:17
1. Heathze
2. Many Too Many
3. One For The Vine
4. No Son Of Mine
5. Abacab
6. Behind The Lines
7. Dance On A Volcano
8. Mama
9. Blood On The Rooftops
10. Eleventh Earl Of Mar
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 10:20
1. Dodo/Lurker
2. Me and Sarah Jane
3. Duke's Travels/Duke's End
4. Mad Man Moon
5. Duchess
6. Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers...in that Quiet Earth
7. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea
8. Squonk
9. Ballad of Big
10. Keep it Dark
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 12:57
This is my list for now. The thing is that it constantly changes day to day. In no order:
1. One for the Vine 2. Entangled 3. Ripples 4. Duke's Travels 5. Down and Out 6. Dance on a Volcano 7. Blood on the Rooftops 8. Mad Man Moon 9. Snowbound 10. CulDeSac
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Hugh Manatee
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 20:30
Entangled
Ripples...
The Carpet Crawlers (from "Seconds Out")
Your Own Special Way
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
Follow You Follow Me
Dance on a Volcano
Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers...
...In That Quiet Earth
Dreaming While You Sleep
------------- I should have been a pair of ragged claws Scuttling across the floors of uncertain seas
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 21:39
Here are the first 10 that come to mind
Turn It On Again
Behind The Lines
Just A Job To Do
Domino
No Reply At All
Ripples
No Son Of Mine
Eleventh Earl Of Mar
Afterglow
Land Of Confusion
I love the pop era as well. It's all great. Except ATTWT is a little lacking to me, like they hadn't figured out how to move on from Hackett yet, and the second half of WCD has a lot of filler. The rest is pretty much gold straight through for me.
------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 15:26
My top 10 consists of tracks only from the first 3 post-Gabriel albums, though Heathaze, Turn it On Again and Keep It Dark would make it if 13 equaled 10. In rough order of preference:
1. One for the Vine 2. Ripples 3. Entangled 4. Blood on the Rooftops 5. Burning Rope 6. Undertow 7. Mad Man Moon 8. Snowbound 9. A Trick of the Tail 10.Afterglow
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 18:59
1- Burning Rope
2- Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea
3- Mama
4- Ripples
5- Afterglow
6- Many Too Many
7- Duchess
8- Domino
9- Entangled
10- One for the Vine
------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 20:59
1. Mad Man Moon
2. Ripples
3. One for the Vine
4. Deep in the Motherlode
5. Down and Out
6. Eleventh Earl of Mar
7. Mama
8. Turn It On Again
9. Entangled
10. Dance on a Volcano
Honorable mentions:
Snowblind
Los Endos
Unquiet Slumbers suite
Undertow
Burning Rope
In Too Deep
No Son of Mine
Land of Confusion
Domino
------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:10
Philchem8 wrote:
My top 10 consists of tracks only from the first 3 post-Gabriel albums, though Heathaze, Turn it On Again and Keep It Dark would make it if 13 equaled 10. In rough order of preference:
1. One for the Vine 2. Ripples 3. Entangled 4. Blood on the Rooftops 5. Burning Rope 6. Undertow 7. Mad Man Moon 8. Snowbound 9. A Trick of the Tail 10.Afterglow
A fine list, although I would have put in Heathaze for Snowbound.
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:16
All eight songs from A Trick of the Tail and "Your Own Special Way" from Wind & Wuthering and "Follow You, Follow Me" from And Then There Were Three.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:19
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
All eight songs from A Trick of the Tail and "Your Own Special Way" from Wind & Wuthering and "Follow You, Follow Me" from And Then There Were Three.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:26
^ I had a feeling I might get that reaction from you. Like I said before.... sometimes I just invite ridicule.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:29
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^ I had a feeling I might get that reaction from you. Like I said before.... sometimes I just invite ridicule.
you actually posted a great list on the first page
(roflmao)
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:35
Cristi wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^ I had a feeling I might get that reaction from you. Like I said before.... sometimes I just invite ridicule.
you actually posted a great list on the first page
(roflmao)
A rare compliment from you! I should frame it and put it up on my wall.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:39
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
By the way, I'd normally list two songs separately in the poll if they both happen to have the same number of points. Like this:-
1. Mama (30)
1. Ripples (30)
3. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
4. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
5. One for the Vine (19)
6. Los Endos (15)
7. Domino (12)
8. Duke’s Travels (10)
9. Squonk (6)
10. Fading Lights (5)
11. Duchess (2)
here it is, it's nice list, what can I say.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 12:07
Cristi wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
By the way, I'd normally list two songs separately in the poll if they both happen to have the same number of points. Like this:-
1. Mama (30)
1. Ripples (30)
3. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
4. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
5. One for the Vine (19)
6. Los Endos (15)
7. Domino (12)
8. Duke’s Travels (10)
9. Squonk (6)
10. Fading Lights (5)
11. Duchess (2)
here it is, it's nice list, what can I say.
The only thing is, that's not my own personal list. It's a collective list of everyone's votes so far.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 12:12
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
By the way, I'd normally list two songs separately in the poll if they both happen to have the same number of points. Like this:-
1. Mama (30)
1. Ripples (30)
3. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
4. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
5. One for the Vine (19)
6. Los Endos (15)
7. Domino (12)
8. Duke’s Travels (10)
9. Squonk (6)
10. Fading Lights (5)
11. Duchess (2)
The only thing is, that's not my own personal list. It's a collective list of everyone's votes so far.
I thought it was Father Christmas thread.
So you did not make that nice list...
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 12:58
I'm kind of stunned so many people are voting for the dreary "Heathaze". This song sounds like an outtake from Tony's A Curious Feeling album and absolutely destroys the momentum created by the first five songs on Duke. I can see this song functioning as a "b" side for a single, but it absolutely did not belong on Duke. At least it's not as bad as "Please Don't Ask".
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 13:09
Cristi wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
By the way, I'd normally list two songs separately in the poll if they both happen to have the same number of points. Like this:-
1. Mama (30)
1. Ripples (30)
3. Follow You, Follow Me (23)
4. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea (20)
5. One for the Vine (19)
6. Los Endos (15)
7. Domino (12)
8. Duke’s Travels (10)
9. Squonk (6)
10. Fading Lights (5)
11. Duchess (2)
The only thing is, that's not my own personal list. It's a collective list of everyone's votes so far.
I thought it was Father Christmas thread.
So you did not make that nice list...
No, I was just counting up the collective points for Father Christmas before he suddenly disappeared on his sleigh.
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 13:47
Steve Wyzard wrote:
I'm kind of stunned so many people are voting for the dreary "Heathaze". This song sounds like an outtake from Tony's A Curious Feeling album and absolutely destroys the momentum created by the first five songs on Duke. I can see this song functioning as a "b" side for a single, but it absolutely did not belong on Duke. At least it's not as bad as "Please Don't Ask".
That's right, Steve. Heathaze (not "dreary" but superb) belonged on a better album. And it looks like I'll have to discover A Curious Feeling for myself.
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 15:28
Steve Wyzard wrote:
I'm kind of stunned so many people are voting for the dreary "Heathaze". This song sounds like an outtake from Tony's A Curious Feeling album and absolutely destroys the momentum created by the first five songs on Duke. I can see this song functioning as a "b" side for a single, but it absolutely did not belong on Duke. At least it's not as bad as "Please Don't Ask".
Always interesting to see how one person's dud is another's favorite. I note that practically every track on ATOTT, W&W, and ATTWT was named by at least one person on this thread (and the majority from Duke and Abacab) so now we know that whenever we accuse these albums of including some fillers, we are insulting the taste of someone on this thread . Maybe it speaks to the quality of Genesis' work during these years that almost every song has at least one fan here. The one I'm a bit surprised has not done better is Squonk. I remember that one playing on the radio quite a bit, at least in Montreal. Then again, we're still waiting for a tally.
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 16:10
Philchem8 wrote:
Steve Wyzard wrote:
I'm kind of stunned so many people are voting for the dreary "Heathaze". This song sounds like an outtake from Tony's A Curious Feeling album and absolutely destroys the momentum created by the first five songs on Duke. I can see this song functioning as a "b" side for a single, but it absolutely did not belong on Duke. At least it's not as bad as "Please Don't Ask".
Always interesting to see how one person's dud is another's favorite. I note that practically every track on ATOTT, W&W, and ATTWT was named by at least one person on this thread (and the majority from Duke and Abacab) so now we know that whenever we accuse these albums of including some fillers, we are insulting the taste of someone on this thread . Maybe it speaks to the quality of Genesis' work during these years that almost every song has at least one fan here. The one I'm a bit surprised has not done better is Squonk. I remember that one playing on the radio quite a bit, at least in Montreal. Then again, we're still waiting for a tally.
I bet the sheer fact that Squonk got any radio play has people ignoring it subconsciously, lol.
I could've put a ton of prog stuff in my list, but I had a feeling everyone else here would do that and I wanted to show some more of the great pop years some love. For my money Genesis didn't release a dud album after their headscratchingly uncharacteristic debut, though I'll admit I've never heard Calling All Stations (would be interesting to see if anyone mentions anything from that record in this thread).
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 16:17
Steve Wyzard wrote:
I'm kind of stunned so many people are voting for the dreary "Heathaze". This song sounds like an outtake from Tony's A Curious Feeling album and absolutely destroys the momentum created by the first five songs on Duke. I can see this song functioning as a "b" side for a single, but it absolutely did not belong on Duke. At least it's not as bad as "Please Don't Ask".
I love both Heathaze and Please Don't Ask.
The former has an achingly yearning chorus that really sees Collins step into his own as a dramatic balladeer, with a lyric I cannot forget: "the trees and I are shaken by the same wind, but whereas the trees will lose their withered leaves, I just can't seem to let them loose..." Powerful.
The latter shows an early example of Phil's excellent knack for writing about failed relationships, and especially for embodying someone who knows things have gone bad and sincerely wishes to make them right again, but just doesn't know how. It's the resignation of knowing things won't change juxtaposed with the desperation for something better, plus Rutherfords sexy guitar licks painting a new warm color in Genesis' often icy canvas.
------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 17:06
Sacro_Porgo wrote:
Steve Wyzard wrote:
I'm kind of stunned so many people are voting for the dreary "Heathaze". This song sounds like an outtake from Tony's A Curious Feeling album and absolutely destroys the momentum created by the first five songs on Duke. I can see this song functioning as a "b" side for a single, but it absolutely did not belong on Duke. At least it's not as bad as "Please Don't Ask".
I love both Heathaze and Please Don't Ask.
The former has an achingly yearning chorus that really sees Collins step into his own as a dramatic balladeer, with a lyric I cannot forget: "the trees and I are shaken by the same wind, but whereas the trees will lose their withered leaves, I just can't seem to let them loose..." Powerful.
The latter shows an early example of Phil's excellent knack for writing about failed relationships, and especially for embodying someone who knows things have gone bad and sincerely wishes to make them right again, but just doesn't know how. It's the resignation of knowing things won't change juxtaposed with the desperation for something better, plus Rutherfords sexy guitar licks painting a new warm color in Genesis' often icy canvas.
Maybe we should rename you Sacro-Pop then 😁. Good reflections on Phil Collins. He certainly has a knack but I still prefer the writing of Banks and Rutherford generally. Why Banks could not come up with better material as a solo artist is a mystery to me.
Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 17:12
I thought this was going to be the opposite: Top 10 post-Genesis Peter Gabriel (i.e. solo), which would have been interesting, instead of the tired old poppy "Genesis" from the 80's and 90s.
Moribund the Burgermeister, Mother of Violence, I Don't Remember, etc. Maybe no one really cares about that music.
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 17:30
Boojieboy wrote:
I thought this was going to be the opposite: Top 10 post-Genesis Peter Gabriel (i.e. solo), which would have been interesting, instead of the tired old poppy "Genesis" from the 80's and 90s.
Moribund the Burgermeister, Mother of Violence, I Don't Remember, etc. Maybe no one really cares about that music.
Actually it seems many of the top songs overall are from the late 70s but I for one like a lot of Gabriel solo stuff and would be happy if someone started a discussion on that.
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 17:41
Boojieboy wrote:
I thought this was going to be the opposite: Top 10 post-Genesis Peter Gabriel (i.e. solo), which would have been interesting, instead of the tired old poppy "Genesis" from the 80's and 90s.
Moribund the Burgermeister, Mother of Violence, I Don't Remember, etc. Maybe no one really cares about that music.
I don't understand your comment. First of all, almost all tracks in this poll are from the 70's. See on page 3 for the last top 10 :
1Dance On Volcano242
2One for the Vine216
3Blood On the Rooftops178
4Los Endos163
5Ripples148
6Eleventh Earl Of Mar140
7Entangled133
=Mad Man Moon133
9Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers...In That Quiet Earth120
10Duke's Travels114
Maybe we could update this top someday...
And I love Genesis from the 70's, but also some tracks from the 80's and 90's. Same thing for the Peter Gabriel solo stuff!
And... I also love many Nino Ferrer songs!
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 18:17
Philchem8 wrote:
Sacro_Porgo wrote:
Steve Wyzard wrote:
I'm kind of stunned so many people are voting for the dreary "Heathaze". This song sounds like an outtake from Tony's A Curious Feeling album and absolutely destroys the momentum created by the first five songs on Duke. I can see this song functioning as a "b" side for a single, but it absolutely did not belong on Duke. At least it's not as bad as "Please Don't Ask".
I love both Heathaze and Please Don't Ask.
The former has an achingly yearning chorus that really sees Collins step into his own as a dramatic balladeer, with a lyric I cannot forget: "the trees and I are shaken by the same wind, but whereas the trees will lose their withered leaves, I just can't seem to let them loose..." Powerful.
The latter shows an early example of Phil's excellent knack for writing about failed relationships, and especially for embodying someone who knows things have gone bad and sincerely wishes to make them right again, but just doesn't know how. It's the resignation of knowing things won't change juxtaposed with the desperation for something better, plus Rutherfords sexy guitar licks painting a new warm color in Genesis' often icy canvas.
Maybe we should rename you Sacro-Pop then 😁. Good reflections on Phil Collins. He certainly has a knack but I still prefer the writing of Banks and Rutherford generally. Why Banks could not come up with better material as a solo artist is a mystery to me.
Ha! That's fair enough. For what it's worth, it was the prog era that made me first take a real interest in Genesis, though I had known their pop hits for many years. I just happened to discover that I quite like every era of this band, just the players and the kinds of music they like to make. One of my absolute favorites!
------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 18:18
What I'm wondering is, if there were a post-Hackett version of this thread rather than just post-Gabriel, would people put in the entirety of ATTWT before even considering Land Of Confusion, or That's All?
------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 18:19
Boojieboy wrote:
I thought this was going to be the opposite: Top 10 post-Genesis Peter Gabriel (i.e. solo), which would have been interesting, instead of the tired old poppy "Genesis" from the 80's and 90s.
Moribund the Burgermeister, Mother of Violence, I Don't Remember, etc. Maybe no one really cares about that music.
Love Gabriel's solo stuff. Melt is a masterpiece through and through, and So has a lot of emotional replay value for me.
------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 12 2022 at 01:46
Admittedly I've never listened enough to any album
post-W&W/Hackett, to really to have really gotten a whole lot of the
songs under my skin. I "like" 80's genesis and own most of the albums
as well (up to and including their self-titled), but I never actually
choose to listen to them. My only recollection of Abacabis that
"Keep it Dark"-video and I remember thinking that Jude Law must get the
role as Phil Collins if they ever made a biopic or a "Bohemian
Rhapsody/Rocket Man"-styled Genesis-movie. So no real surprises here I
suppose...
Dance On A Volcano
One For The Vine
Home By the Sea/Second Home By the Sea
Entangled
Los Endos
Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers...
That's All
Mama
Eleventh Earl Of Mar
...In That Quiet Earth
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 12 2022 at 05:32
Boojieboy wrote:
I thought this was going to be the opposite: Top 10 post-Genesis Peter Gabriel (i.e. solo), which would have been interesting, instead of the tired old poppy "Genesis" from the 80's and 90s.
Moribund the Burgermeister, Mother of Violence, I Don't Remember, etc. Maybe no one really cares about that music.
you know, you can start that discussion, create a poll or a thread, or is it you want someone else to do it for you?
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 18 2022 at 14:45
I thought it was time to have another tally for
this poll and since Father Christmas does not seem to be around (I hope he is
doing well!), I took it upon myself to do the math, which admittedly has left
me with a slight headache. I was as careful as possible, but any one is
welcomed to check in case there are any doubts. A few minor caveats to consider
first:
- It was agreed in some cases that two tracks would count as one (i.e.
Unquiet slumbers/In that quiet earth, Duke's travels/Duke's end, Home by the
sea 1&2). This may have given these tracks an advantage as some voters seem
to be voting just for one or the other of the two, but generally this should
not have played an important factor
- Psychedelic Paul originally voted only for 3 songs, but later named
all the tracks from ATOTT plus Your Own Special Way and Follow You, Follow Me,
without providing a ranking. So I only included his 3 top songs, but it would
be easy to adjust if he decided to rank his top 10
- A FlowerKingCrimson included 11 songs by squeezing in two songs at #5
(nice try J), so I ignored his
last song
- Rednight provided a list organized from 1-10, but said these were not necessarily
in order of preference. However, I counted them as if they were in order of preference
as I could see no other way to include them.
So, here are the best post-Peter Gabriel Genesis songs and their scores according
to the educated tastes of 33 ProgArchives voters (I thought it would be
interesting to see the songs beyond just the top 10, so it’s a top 20 list):
1. One for the Vine - 328 (very appropriate title for the #1)
2. Dance on a Volcano – 290
3. Ripples – 253
4. Entangled – 216
5. Blood on the Rooftops – 198
6. Los Endos – 173
7. Mad Man Moon – 172
8. Eleventh Earl of Mar – 155
9. Duke’s Travels/Duke’s End – 141
10. Mama – 138
11. Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers/In That Quiet Earth – 136
12. Home by the Sea/Second Home by the Sea – 135
13. Squonk – 114
14. Burning Rope – 75
15. Down and Out - 71
16. Afterglow – 69
17. Behind the Lines – 66
18. Heathaze – 62
19. Dodo/Lurker – 60
20. Undertow – 47
Bubbling under are Turn it on Again (46) and Domino (44).
A few observations. While it is not surprising that the highest scoring
tracks are from the first two post-Gabriel albums, since this is after all a
prog site, many if not most voters also included songs from Genesis’ more
mainstream periods in their top 10. In all, 55 songs received at least one mention
in a top 10 list, including all from ATOTT, W&W and ATTWT, most from Duke
and Abacab, and several from Genesis and Invisible Touch. I think only one track
from their last album received a vote: Congo from Calling All Stations.
People may be familiar with the top 10 list of Genesis songs
compiled by Prog Magazine ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-ten-best-genesis-songs-according-to-prog-readers" rel="nofollow - The
10 Best Genesis Songs – voted for by Prog readers | Louder (loudersound.com) ,
supposedly voted by 40,000 readers. Interestingly, the only two post-Gabriel
songs that made that list are Ripples (at #9) and Dance on a Volcano (at #10),
which seems pretty consistent with our little poll, with the important
exception of One for the Vine coming in first (incidentally my #1 as well J).
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 18 2022 at 18:15
I see I posted on here a while ago. While I still stand behind my top ten, "man of our times" is one that has grown on me. I've also always liked "man on the corner" although it's not quite a top tenner for me. Others that don't quite make it for me are:
Down And Out
Follow You Follow Me
Silver Rainbow
Mama
Congo
Fading Lights
Misunderstanding
Turn It On Again (although it could make my top ten now or at least maybe number 11)
Duchess (not sure how it didn't make my initial top ten but it probably would now)
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight (this was played to death on the radio but I really like the middle part especially)
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 11:36
Entangled/inside and out (non LP track)/ Dance on a volcano/Los Endos/Eleventh earl of Mar/ Unquiet slumbers... quiet earth/Squonk/Duke's travel... duke's end/Wot gorilla/ Mad mam moon
ranking is useless
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 11:38
mellotronwave wrote:
Entangled/inside and out (non LP track)/ Dance on a volcano/Los Endos/Eleventh earl of Mar/ Unquiet slumbers... quiet earth/Squonk/Duke's travel... duke's end/Wot gorilla/ Mad mam moon
ranking is useless
Ranking?! You are the only one thinking about it.
Just list 10 songs you enjoy/love.
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 11:56
^Not true. Just ask Philchem8.
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 11:57
Lots of people have been ranking their choices from 1 to ten, and it started off with listing your choices in order of preference and having the OP tabulating the results -- the OP has been gone for over a year -- and Paul took over, and of course PhilChem's contribution.
I too often prefer not to rank my choices and instead just list them in any order (often preferring not to make sport of art -- not having these things as games or sort of contests).
EDIT: I do have a number one in this case, and it is Blood on the Rooftops.
My list, and I will rank them this time even if I could easily change the order and some listings:
1. Blood on the Rooftops 2. Ripples 3. Entangled 4. One for the Vine 5. Squonk 6. Los Endos 7. Mad Man Moon 8. Deep in the Motherlode 9. Dance on a Volcano 10: Burning Rope
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 14:23
Cristi wrote:
mellotronwave wrote:
Entangled/inside and out (non LP track)/ Dance on a volcano/Los Endos/Eleventh earl of Mar/ Unquiet slumbers... quiet earth/Squonk/Duke's travel... duke's end/Wot gorilla/ Mad mam moon
ranking is useless
Ranking?! You are the only one thinking about it.
Just list 10 songs you enjoy/love.
that's what I did ;-)
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 14:28
mellotronwave wrote:
Cristi wrote:
mellotronwave wrote:
Entangled/inside and out (non LP track)/ Dance on a volcano/Los Endos/Eleventh earl of Mar/ Unquiet slumbers... quiet earth/Squonk/Duke's travel... duke's end/Wot gorilla/ Mad mam moon
ranking is useless
Ranking?! You are the only one thinking about it.
Just list 10 songs you enjoy/love.
that's what I did ;-)
yes you did, but you were worried about rankings which in this case, you should not.
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 15:19
Rednight wrote:
^Not true. Just ask Philchem8.
Haha, I calculated the ranking of all the songs because this was after all what the creator of this thread, Father Christmas, had intended. It was just a fun thing to do, and one should not take it too seriously. For those who care, it does help to show which songs from an artist/band appear the most appreciated within the Prog Archive community (or at least those who participate), which is perhaps a fairly representative microcosm of prog listeners generally. For those who don't care, no harm done.
Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: August 01 2023 at 04:56