Camel, VDGG and GG Albums Question

Guldbamsen wrote: Magnum Vaeltaja wrote: noni wrote: I'm a huge Camel fan and prefer the new updated version of Snowgoose..   I agree. If you're going to start out with The Snow Goose, I'd advise going for the 2013 re-recording. More lively and energetic than the original IMO. I have recently come to appreciate this album or well it has stopped sounding completely vapid to me which by any account is a big step up...but it was the original recording that did it. I tried the new and improved version and it ticks all modern day cheese manufacturing production skills. Yikes! Then again if he likes that sort of approach it'll be the bee's knees. I understand why musicians do this; all the small mistakes grate their now clinically trained musician ears that simply cannot live with flaws and unwieldy tempos 'and those oddly recorded bits that could have been oh so better had we had the recording gear we have now uuuuuhhhhuuuu don't even get me started!!!!!!!!' Problem is it's the 'flaws' that MAKE the music. It's the youthful exuberance shines theough in the recording - a jolt of electricity that towers every little technical caveat the artist since then develops. Sad thing is the more these people learn the more they forget. Music gets to be like driving a car - a comfortable ride from a to b. No sense in wild driving though let's get there in one piece.

Yep, the 'updated' version is painful for me, and i tried listening to it a few times. There was nothing wrong with the original, one version is pure magic, while another is rid of emotion and replaced with updated synths. 

I, for one, actually love synths, and there was great music from the 80's. But these are not GOOD synths, anything organic with the original was now gone. I'm surprised the general opinion is so positive for a re-done Snow Goose, and yet the general consensus on Tubular Bells II is garbage.. Which in both cases, it's the latter.

Okay, that's a bit harsh.. Not garbage, just completely unnecessary and devoid of joy.

Played a bit of VDGG yesterday, oh my!....  A bit harsh I would say and probably a band that could be hard to get into.  I have only a few albums by this band and remember listening to more on YouTube and decided not too..

Magnum Vaeltaja wrote: noni wrote: I'm a huge Camel fan and prefer the new updated version of Snowgoose..   I agree. If you're going to start out with The Snow Goose, I'd advise going for the 2013 re-recording. More lively and energetic than the original IMO.

I have recently come to appreciate this album or well it has stopped sounding completely vapid to me which by any account is a big step up...but it was the original recording that did it. I tried the new and improved version and it ticks all modern day cheese manufacturing production skills. Yikes! Then again if he likes that sort of approach it'll be the bee's knees. I understand why musicians do this; all the small mistakes grate their now clinically trained musician ears that simply cannot live with flaws and unwieldy tempos 'and those oddly recorded bits that could have been oh so better had we had the recording gear we have now uuuuuhhhhuuuu don't even get me started!!!!!!!!'
Problem is it's the 'flaws' that MAKE the music. It's the youthful exuberance shines theough in the recording - a jolt of electricity that towers every little technical caveat the artist since then develops. Sad thing is the more these people learn the more they forget. Music gets to be like driving a car - a comfortable ride from a to b. No sense in wild driving though let's get there in one piece.

Camel: Mirage/Snow Goose/Moonmadness

noni wrote: I'm a huge Camel fan and prefer the new updated version of Snowgoose..

Camel: début

Edited by Sean Trane - July 25 2017 at 06:41

VdGG and Giant are two of the hardest classic prog bands to get into imo so I can't recommend you a single album. Definitely not for everyone but if you enjoy their sound you can safely and gleefully go for: VdGG 'The Least We Can Do' to 'World Record' 1970-1976 / Giant 'Gentle Giant' to 'Interview' 1970-1976


Camel - Mirage

Heh...let's see if we don't end up confusing him instead of making things clearer.

You will be needing these babies (just ignore the above posts)

Van Damme Generator: Pawn Hearts
Camel - s/t
Gentle Giant - Acquiring The Taste

Snow Goose and Godbluff  (the two above being also excellent)

Not a great fan of GG


Edited by Quinino - July 25 2017 at 03:33