Camel, VDGG and GG Albums Question
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Topic: Camel, VDGG and GG Albums Question
Posted By: Arnulf Floyd
Subject: Camel, VDGG and GG Albums Question
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 03:06
Hi, Prog Archives community, I have a question for yours, which are best Camel, VDGG and GG albums for beginners, because I wish adding these bands in my classic rock colection,
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 03:18
Moonmadness, Still Life, Octopus.
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Posted By: Arnulf Floyd
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 03:28
Thank you for answer
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 03:31
Snow Goose and Godbluff (the two above being also excellent)
Not a great fan of GG
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 04:27
Camel: Snow Goose or Nude. VdGG: Still Life GG: Octopus or Free Hand.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 04:33
Heh...let's see if we don't end up confusing him instead of making things clearer.
You will be needing these babies (just ignore the above posts)
Van Damme Generator: Pawn Hearts Camel - s/t Gentle Giant - Acquiring The Taste
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 05:16
You have to have The Snow Goose, I believe it's a legal requirement.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 05:30
VdGG and Giant are two of the hardest classic prog bands to get into imo so I can't recommend you a single album. Definitely not for everyone but if you enjoy their sound you can safely and gleefully go for: VdGG 'The Least We Can Do' to 'World Record' 1970-1976 / Giant 'Gentle Giant' to 'Interview' 1970-1976
Camel - Mirage
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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 06:22
Camel: Mirage VDGG: Either H To He, Who Am The Only One or Godbluff Gentle Giant: Acquiring The Taste or Octopus
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 06:33
Camel: début VdGG: The Least We Can Do or Godbluff (the two easier ones to "get") GG: In A Glass House
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 07:40
Guldbamsen wrote:
You will be needing these babies (just ignore the above posts)
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No one can beat you I just think Pawn Hearts may be a little too demanding to start with, but who knows (tbh it was my first love but Godbluff is less rough, more "melodic", can I say this ?)
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 12:08
Mirage (Camel) Godbluff or Still life (VDGG) In a Glass house
I think these three give a good overall introduction to these bands; perhaps not the most complex of their works and perhaps more hooks and melodic elements (not a problem for Camel anyway!) but these were the 3 lps that introduced me to these respective bands in the 70's
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Posted By: noni
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 12:58
These were my first ever albums and love them to bits.
VDGG - Pawn Hearts GG - Free Hand Camel - Snowgoose or Moonmadness
I'm a huge Camel fan and prefer the new updated version of Snowgoose.. There is a great compilation double cd called Echoes, which has a lot of Camel's best tracks, highly recommended.
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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 15:46
noni wrote:
I'm a huge Camel fan and prefer the new updated version of Snowgoose..
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I agree. If you're going to start out with The Snow Goose, I'd advise going for the 2013 re-recording. More lively and energetic than the original IMO.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 18:16
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
noni wrote:
I'm a huge Camel fan and prefer the new updated version of Snowgoose..
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I agree. If you're going to start out with The Snow Goose, I'd advise going for the 2013 re-recording. More lively and energetic than the original IMO. | Hérétiques!!!
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Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: July 25 2017 at 20:36
Can't go wrong with any of
Camel: Mirage/Snow Goose/MoonmadnessVDGG: The Least/H to He/Godbluff Gentle Giant: debut/Acquiring the Taste
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Posted By: Arnulf Floyd
Date Posted: July 26 2017 at 06:05
I thank yours for suggestions for Camel, VDGG and GG albums for beginners
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 26 2017 at 06:38
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
noni wrote:
I'm a huge Camel fan and prefer the new updated version of Snowgoose..
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I agree. If you're going to start out with The Snow Goose, I'd advise going for the 2013 re-recording. More lively and energetic than the original IMO. | I have recently come to appreciate this album or well it has stopped sounding completely vapid to me which by any account is a big step up...but it was the original recording that did it. I tried the new and improved version and it ticks all modern day cheese manufacturing production skills. Yikes! Then again if he likes that sort of approach it'll be the bee's knees. I understand why musicians do this; all the small mistakes grate their now clinically trained musician ears that simply cannot live with flaws and unwieldy tempos 'and those oddly recorded bits that could have been oh so better had we had the recording gear we have now uuuuuhhhhuuuu don't even get me started!!!!!!!!' Problem is it's the 'flaws' that MAKE the music. It's the youthful exuberance shines theough in the recording - a jolt of electricity that towers every little technical caveat the artist since then develops. Sad thing is the more these people learn the more they forget. Music gets to be like driving a car - a comfortable ride from a to b. No sense in wild driving though let's get there in one piece.
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Posted By: Watchmaker
Date Posted: July 26 2017 at 06:51
Gentle Giant: Debut, Three Friends
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Posted By: noni
Date Posted: July 26 2017 at 09:42
Played a bit of VDGG yesterday, oh my!.... A bit harsh I would say and probably a band that could be hard to get into. I have only a few albums by this band and remember listening to more on YouTube and decided not too..
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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: July 27 2017 at 14:00
You could try "A Live Record" by Camel. It includes the whole of Snow Goose plus a good selection of tracks from all albums up to Rain Dances.
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: July 27 2017 at 16:45
Guldbamsen wrote:
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
noni wrote:
I'm a huge Camel fan and prefer the new updated version of Snowgoose..
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I agree. If you're going to start out with The Snow Goose, I'd advise going for the 2013 re-recording. More lively and energetic than the original IMO. | I have recently come to appreciate this album or well it has stopped sounding completely vapid to me which by any account is a big step up...but it was the original recording that did it. I tried the new and improved version and it ticks all modern day cheese manufacturing production skills. Yikes! Then again if he likes that sort of approach it'll be the bee's knees. I understand why musicians do this; all the small mistakes grate their now clinically trained musician ears that simply cannot live with flaws and unwieldy tempos 'and those oddly recorded bits that could have been oh so better had we had the recording gear we have now uuuuuhhhhuuuu don't even get me started!!!!!!!!' Problem is it's the 'flaws' that MAKE the music. It's the youthful exuberance shines theough in the recording - a jolt of electricity that towers every little technical caveat the artist since then develops. Sad thing is the more these people learn the more they forget. Music gets to be like driving a car - a comfortable ride from a to b. No sense in wild driving though let's get there in one piece. |
Yep, the 'updated' version is painful for me, and i tried listening to it a few times. There was nothing wrong with the original, one version is pure magic, while another is rid of emotion and replaced with updated synths.
I, for one, actually love synths, and there was great music from the 80's. But these are not GOOD synths, anything organic with the original was now gone. I'm surprised the general opinion is so positive for a re-done Snow Goose, and yet the general consensus on Tubular Bells II is garbage.. Which in both cases, it's the latter.
Okay, that's a bit harsh.. Not garbage, just completely unnecessary and devoid of joy.
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: July 27 2017 at 16:49
Camel-Snow Goose (I was a kid when I first heard it, and immediately bought it on iTunes. It inspired me immediately, I never heard anything like it. I've been tempted to see the film Dunkirk simply because I love the album/short story that goes along with it) Van Der Graaf-Pawn Hearts (listened to that yesterday and today, has been a favorite of mine--surpassing anything by Yes and Genesis for me) GG-Acquiring the Taste (ironically enough, their most accessible album. Great Medieval-feel, the strongest in that category as far as their discography goes)
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