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rogerthat
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Topic: Reviewers should be judged too. Posted: January 31 2015 at 09:13 |
Let me ask here flat out: Are you the kind of person who thinks movies shouldn't have cuss words even if it's Martin Scorsese making a film about gangsters or, well, Wall Street thugs? Because that's what this kind of demand comes across as to me. And I am not saying there should be cuss words in a review, just comparing censorship in movies to complaints about 'nasty reviews'. Some of us here like irreverence in writing. It makes for engaging reviews, especially when it concerns terrible albums. And yes, such things do exist. So please allow us to have our pleasure. There are enough fanboys to talk up bands and write glowing reviews anyway. Since they care so much about music unlike, apparently, the nasty ones, I am sure writing a baseless review calling it the BEST PROG ALBUM EVAH or some such superlative won't be too much trouble for them.
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Vompatti
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 15:04 |
hugs are xpensnive in finallnld
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earlyprog
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 09:27 |
^You need a hug, come here 
(I take every opportunity to hug you)
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Kati
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 08:42 |
I seem to be the stone inside the shoe that should be remove from there to be honest. 
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Kati
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 08:36 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
Argonaught wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
...by which you insinuate that the reviewers granting Corvus Stone II a high rating did not listen to the album (Dare I say, you are probably right.) |
It depends on what one considers to be "a high rating". For some albums I can think of even 2 stars would be very magnanimous. |
By which you imply 2 stars is too high a rating for CV II 
I love albums that come with a story and this thread has just raised my rating of 3 stars to 4 stars for CV II. Excellent addition to my prog rock music collection.  |
Seconded, my eyes always trump my ears when it comes to music 
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hahahaha! ExittheLemming and earlyprog  you two made me smile and laugh very much right now. Thank you so much for that. Aww thank you again and group hug 
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Kati
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 08:31 |
Damn, now where are all the peeps who wrote favorable ones
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Kati
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 08:30 |
Argonaught wrote:
^ the story of the Corvus Stone that became a stumbling block |
Cooee, I am not Corvus Stone and what I say is not related to the band (ok might be sometimes influenced a bit but certainly not entirely not at all) Corvus Stone seems to be the most mentioned band of 2014 being it good or negative lol  Aww I like you my little crab, you also didn't write a favorable review too however I never had a go at you for that, what you wrote was interesting and I think I mentioned this before not sure, I said I clearly could tell that you did listen to the album  I do like you a lot  We met at the reviews reporting thread funny enough lolol 
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Argonaught
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 08:19 |
^ the story of the Corvus Stone that became a stumbling block
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Thank you, Fripp, for our daily Prog (Red 39:54)
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Kati
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 07:28 |
Gerinski wrote:
Kati wrote:
So far I have replied to all your questions. |
No you have not. Please answer which collab review about CS you were referring to as a blatant lie. It's a plain simple question to answer, if you accuse a collab review of being a blatant lie I think it's no big deal to ask which one were you referring to.
Kati wrote:
I asked you a question first yet have got no reply from you. You stated things that I said which are not true. Stop going around in circles.
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I did reply, I said that you have before reacted on negative reviews on CS and when you asked me to clarify I just gave you the 2 recent examples why I assumed that this thread was an afterthought from that review. |
Gerinski, I have no idea why this is happening. I liked you so much (your fluffy best friend is cuter tho') and I really thought you liked me too. You know I have praised your reviews even said your terrible review about CS is truly well written and articulate. Why all this? It's not fair nor does it make any sense.
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someone_else
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 07:21 |
earlyprog wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
Argonaught wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
...by which you insinuate that the reviewers granting Corvus Stone II a high rating did not listen to the album (Dare I say, you are probably right.) |
It depends on what one considers to be "a high rating". For some albums I can think of even 2 stars would be very magnanimous. |
By which you imply 2 stars is too high a rating for CV II 
I love albums that come with a story and this thread has just raised my rating of 3 stars to 4 stars for CV II. Excellent addition to my prog rock music collection.  |
Seconded, my eyes always trump my ears when it comes to music 
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Yeah, I like the cover too  |
So do I. I even gave it the edge above The Endless River as my favourite album artwork in the DPRP-poll, although my wife looked angry at me when she saw me viewing the album's bandcamp page  .
Edited by someone_else - January 30 2015 at 07:23
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earlyprog
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 06:46 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
Argonaught wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
...by which you insinuate that the reviewers granting Corvus Stone II a high rating did not listen to the album (Dare I say, you are probably right.) |
It depends on what one considers to be "a high rating". For some albums I can think of even 2 stars would be very magnanimous. |
By which you imply 2 stars is too high a rating for CV II 
I love albums that come with a story and this thread has just raised my rating of 3 stars to 4 stars for CV II. Excellent addition to my prog rock music collection.  |
Seconded, my eyes always trump my ears when it comes to music 
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Yeah, I like the cover too 
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 06:43 |
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 06:34 |
earlyprog wrote:
Argonaught wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
...by which you insinuate that the reviewers granting Corvus Stone II a high rating did not listen to the album (Dare I say, you are probably right.) |
It depends on what one considers to be "a high rating". For some albums I can think of even 2 stars would be very magnanimous. |
By which you imply 2 stars is too high a rating for CV II 
I love albums that come with a story and this thread has just raised my rating of 3 stars to 4 stars for CV II. Excellent addition to my prog rock music collection.  |
Seconded, my eyes always trump my ears when it comes to music
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earlyprog
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 06:05 |
Argonaught wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
...by which you insinuate that the reviewers granting Corvus Stone II a high rating did not listen to the album (Dare I say, you are probably right.) |
It depends on what one considers to be "a high rating". For some albums I can think of even 2 stars would be very magnanimous. |
By which you imply 2 stars is too high a rating for CS II 
I love albums that come with a great story and this thread has just raised my rating from 3 to 4 stars for CSII. Excellent addition to my prog rock music collection. 
Edited by earlyprog - January 30 2015 at 06:59
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Kati
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 05:58 |
Argonaught wrote:
earlyprog wrote:
...by which you insinuate that the reviewers granting Corvus Stone II a high rating did not listen to the album (Dare I say, you are probably right.) |
It depends on what one considers to be "a high rating". For some albums I can think of even 2 stars would be very magnanimous. |
lol Argonaught, 3 stars and above are good ratings  beyond 3 is candy really.
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Argonaught
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 05:56 |
earlyprog wrote:
...by which you insinuate that the reviewers granting Corvus Stone II a high rating did not listen to the album (Dare I say, you are probably right.) |
It depends on what one considers to be "a high rating". For some albums I can think of even 2 stars would be very magnanimous.
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Thank you, Fripp, for our daily Prog (Red 39:54)
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Kati
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 05:29 |
Gerinski wrote:
Kati wrote:
So far I have replied to all your questions. |
No you have not. Please answer which collab review about CS you were referring to as a blatant lie. It's a plain simple question to answer, if you accuse a collab review of being a blatant lie I think it's no big deal to ask which one were you referring to.
Kati wrote:
I asked you a question first yet have got no reply from you. You stated things that I said which are not true. Stop going around in circles.
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I did reply, I said that you have before reacted on negative reviews on CS and when you asked me to clarify I just gave you the 2 recent examples why I assumed that this thread was an afterthought from that review. |
I asked you to show me where did I have a go at a reviewer for posting a negative review??? Do not quote reviews reporting thread as I did not mention anyone and was defending a review from someone who made a review for CS. The dates are very conflicting too from the date I posted the forum topic. This came after.
Edited by Kati - January 30 2015 at 05:29
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Gerinski
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 05:24 |
Kati wrote:
So far I have replied to all your questions. |
No you have not. Please answer which collab review about CS you were referring to as a blatant lie. It's a plain simple question to answer, if you accuse a collab review of being a blatant lie I think it's no big deal to ask which one were you referring to.
Kati wrote:
I asked you a question first yet have got no reply from you. You stated things that I said which are not true. Stop going around in circles.
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I did reply, I said that you have before reacted on negative reviews on CS and when you asked me to clarify I just gave you the 2 recent examples why I assumed that this thread was an afterthought from that review.
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Kati
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 05:11 |
Gerinski wrote:
Kati wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
and on 28 January you posted again referencing to that review
Kati wrote:
This band has had their share of negative reviews, some negative ones seem fair and others are blatant lies and I have to say that one is from one of your fellow brethren collab's. The band did not report it because they told me that this happens in the music industry and one should rather focus on the positive. I know (this is my point of view and thinking) they thought it would be pointless and make it worse as it obviously would bring a negative backlash to them. I can see why they would think such thing. Collabs make mistakes too, they should know better compared to a person who is a new member and wrote one single review with a real profile also is allowed to be overlooked in this case.  |
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Referencing to what
review? I am lost here.
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You tell me. There are only 2 collab reviews with less than 3 stars for that album, and I don't think you can accuse one of them of being a "blatant lie". That leaves only one possibility in my book, but please enlighten me (and actually I don't think you can accuse that last one of being a "blatant lie" either anyway, please clarify what exactly is a blatant lie in that review, rather than a personal opinion, or clarify which other review you were referring to as being a blatant lie).
In any case I have responded enough, more than you to me, which on my question on which review(s) prompted you to start this thread you can only reply "I'm influenced by what I read". [/QUOTE]
So far I have replied to all your questions. I asked you a question first yet have got no reply from you. You stated things that I said which are not true. Stop going around in circles.
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Gerinski
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 05:04 |
Kati wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
and on 28 January you posted again referencing to that review
Kati wrote:
This band has had their share of negative reviews, some negative ones seem fair and others are blatant lies and I have to say that one is from one of your fellow brethren collab's. The band did not report it because they told me that this happens in the music industry and one should rather focus on the positive. I know (this is my point of view and thinking) they thought it would be pointless and make it worse as it obviously would bring a negative backlash to them. I can see why they would think such thing. Collabs make mistakes too, they should know better compared to a person who is a new member and wrote one single review with a real profile also is allowed to be overlooked in this case.  |
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Referencing to what
review? I am lost here.
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[/QUOTE]
You tell me. There are only 2 collab reviews with less than 3 stars for that album, and I don't think you can accuse one of them of being a "blatant lie". That leaves only one possibility in my book, but please enlighten me (and actually I don't think you can accuse that last one of being a "blatant lie" either anyway, please clarify what exactly is a blatant lie in that review, rather than a personal opinion, or clarify which other review you were referring to as being a blatant lie).
In any case I have responded enough, more than you to me, which on my question on which review(s) prompted you to start this thread you can only reply "I'm influenced by what I read".
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