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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 06:41 | |
I've got an Airfix kit of a standard Bulleid Pacific. It's supposed to be Battle of Britian Class Winston Churchill, but I changed it (I found a company that made brass plaques for them). Think I made 257 Squadron, I can't quite remember.
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Jared
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 19961 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 06:22 | |
I used to have an Airfix Kit Model of Clan Line...
...and I've seen Ellerman Lines cut up in bits in York museum...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 06:13 | |
That's what I thought. The Midhants Merchant Navy is British India Line, but apparently they have another. My knowledge has gotten rusty.
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 06:00 | |
Sorry, I thought that you were asking if I knew what the state of play with British India Lines was. I have never seen it let alone driven it so I can't comment. Canadian Pacific is a Bullied Merchant Navy, same as Clan Line etc.
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:54 | |
So you don't have a logbook of trains you've driven then?
Oh, the Canadian one... that's not a Bulleid... is that the Blue painted one in LMR colours? |
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:48 | |
No idea I'm afraid. However, this was me driving on Sunday evening leaving Cheltenham Racecourse.
http://www.neilcarr.co.uk/images/92203.jpg |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:41 | |
British India Line?
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:32 | |
They still have a few. We've borrowed one, Canadian Pacific, at Toddington. I was driving it the other day. There is still a shortage of money and volunteers in railway preservation but the Mid Hants seem to be doing alright at the moment. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:17 | |
I used to go to the Midhants Railway (The Watercress Line) many years ago, by they kept getting rid of stuff and the stuff they still had took forever to get restored, but I don't blame them, they had (and probably still don't) much money. Do you know if their situation has improved? I was also a great fanatic of the Bulleid Pacific and the Midhants had about 3 or 4 at one point.
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Neil
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Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:10 | |
Sorry, I couldn't help it |
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:07 | |
Don't laugh. I was driving Thomas the other day at our Thomas and friends weekend. Please hurry up and sort the IE7 issues. Edited by Heavyfreight - November 28 2006 at 05:07 |
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mystic fred
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 04:35 | |
Most of the teenagers who study in my College are intelligent and hard working, and go on after 2 years to University or full-time work, though many with a "chip" on their shoulder seem to be here to keep them off the streets - there are some extremely nasty ones who are usually persuaded to "leave" long before Christmas, who are not dangerous in themselves but create disruption - that saying about "one bad apple" is absolutely true!
Many problems kids have in Schools are due to lack of discipline in an unstable home, and problems going back to Pre-school. I'm not saying we should hit them, that just creates rebels and more violence, but kids feel secure in a disciplined home. Some grow up with dirty habits (like spitting/swearing) thinking it is acceptable behaviour, and anti-social attitudes, thinking it is ok to steal and attack people. By the time they get to secondary/high school it's too late, the teachers are frightened of them, and if they get into College I end up sorting out the "problem".
Most kids, fortunately, are hard working and decent so don't be too gloomy people!!
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Jared
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 19961 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 04:15 | |
Of course, you're absolutely right John. Here's a thought from leftfield; tell me what you think. When the philosopher, David Hume lay on his death bed in the 1790's, most of his friends and critics hoped sincerely for a death bed repentance from him, by turning to God; most for his own spiritual sake, but a few for Society's sake.
Years before, Hume had said categorically that God didn't exist, and that when he died he was going to the grave, and that was it. Some of his political friends were petrified at this notion, because they felt that if the common man came to believe there was no heavenly reward for his backbreaking toil on the land, and suffering on this earth, then anarchy would prevail. Why?
Because they believed that a Fear of God was the ONLY social apparatus that could maintain law and order in western civilisation, and whereas a Secular Society was something which the educated could come to terms with, this could never happen for the uneducated majority.
Now, I'm fairly ambivilent about religion, but I have to ask the question, why is it so comparatively safe to walk around Madrid or Naples at 11pm on a Friday night, when I wouldn't been seen anywhere near downtown Hereford at the same time??
It's because here in the UK, the mindless majority can't ultimately live with the consequences of a secular society, without the restraint of either Religion or a similar substitute.
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 04:08 | |
It's when they dress their children (correction: their boy(s)) up in said footbal regalia, that I start to worry about the human race...
A little baby boy cannot say "No! Daddy, I really don't want to be associated with *insert glory supported team here* or be associated with thuggery". They have no say, because they're too young. It's too late by then. Don't force all that crap on them at such a young age. |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: November 28 2006 at 03:54 | |
Perhaps if the wearing of football shirts were to be made a capital offense unless worn on the field of play (or being worn whilst reading a copy of The Sun), such problems would eventually go away...
...just a thought |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 28 2006 at 03:48 | |
I worked hard at College (although I didn't do A-Levels and I wish I had), obtaining a Distinction at Intermediate level and a Merit at Advanced level. It was when I got to University that things went wrong for me. I did come out with a 3rd in the end, but it was a struggle. There were some on the course who barely turned up and one of them got a 1st. Now that was annoying.
No, you are correct, there seems to be a class lower than working class (also my routes, by the way - all my family are working class). Maybe it should be called the dole queue class, but most of the people in that class wouldn't be able to spell queue, let alone dole... We should all be very worried too, they will indeed be the adults of tomorrow. Heck, many of them apparently are already adults! |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 28 2006 at 03:36 | |
John / James - well said
James - I never went to university, but when I left school in 1979, those who did go had to work bloody hard to get there & even harder to stay there; nowadays, it seems that universities are full of those who see the institutions as a natural extension of school and/or a way of avoiding 'real life' for another few years (evidenced by the huge numbers of people taking "nothing" subjects like media studies or sociology) - many universities are now having to offer remedial reading/writing courses for those who go on to higher education without basic literacy skills. Whilst I'm in full ranting mode I have to get off my chest something which has been bothering me for some time - am I alone in thinking there is now a new (and I hate to use the expression) "underclass" developing...? Don't get me wrong, I am not putting down the working classes, far from it (it's where I was born, for God's sake), the working class has always had its share of low-lifes (as have all classes in society), but there was always a strong sense of moral value and a strong work ethic. There now seems to be a new class of those who see the state as a parental substitute, drifting from school to benefit state with no effort on their part to improve their lot; the scary part of this is their children are brought up to believe this is the norm and perfectly acceptable - growing up without discipline, direction or any sense of purpose... These are the adults of tomorrow! Now that's scary... Edited by Jim Garten - November 28 2006 at 03:38 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 28 2006 at 00:49 | |
I wholeheartedly agree with you John, well said.
I've been thinking over the past few years that intelligence is actually dying out. Yes, you still get the extremely intelligent people, but it seems to me that there are more unintelligible people every day. I also don't believe University Education is all that special anymore. A large majority of people go to University to have fun first and work hard second. That's the way I unfortunately did it also, but hindsight has told me that I should have done it the other way around. Then when they do learn things, I don't always believe it's always to the high standard that people expect. I had many inept lecturers who had no real clue how to teach. They probably knew their subject, but they seem to be very poor at inter-personal skills. Am I alone in thinking this? Edited by Geck0 - November 28 2006 at 03:40 |
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johnobvious
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Posted: November 27 2006 at 19:01 | |
Glad I found this thread. I have two daughters 7 and 5. I am inundated with thoughts of everything that they are going to navigate when they become teenagers due to this world being the sewage hole that most of it is. Let me count the ways:
1. Eating disorders-if anyone has seen the new special on HBO called Thin, it will seriously screw with you. The women in this treatment center are absolutely insane. 2. Crystal Meth-it is everywhere in the states and even in the middle of the country where I live. How right thinking people can get involved with this stuff is unbelievable. 3. Internet predators - These people who pray on underage people are the scum of the earth. NBC here in the states seems to be running a undercover sting continually and putting these freaks right on TV caught red handed all the time. Yet does it abate? No. 4. Bullying 5. Teenage pregnancy. 6. Identity theft. I could go on but just thinking about this is enough to put me over the edge. Why is there a never ending string of landmines that people have to negotiate just to survive in this so-called civilization. People's greed, animal instincts and lack of intelligence is all a part of it and young minds are so suceptible that I just want to go live in a cave. Edited by johnobvious - November 27 2006 at 19:03 |
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mystic fred
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Posted: November 27 2006 at 15:32 | |
Heavyfreight
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