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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2006 at 04:28
The day I found Eros on vinyl was the happiest day of my life. Bought it then proceeded to get wasted to ease the memory of how much it cost.

   Maybe Soleil Zeuhl can help ?




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I'm completely new to Zeuhl, my first album i got just a week ago, Wurdah Itah. I was gonna mek it Eros, but i just can't find it, no-one here knows it even exists. I've listened quite a bit to Udu wudu as well, and i'm just amazed at how many different kinds of music there is on the planet, you know.
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The Kultivator album is mammoth ! And quite catchy too ! Zeuhl-pop ? haha


       One for the 4 Visions lovers
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In my opinion the most interesting albums which belong to genre, called Zeuhl, are: MAGMA "Mekank Destruktw Kommandh" [1973] --> essence of Magma's style
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WEIDORJE "Weidorje" [1978].

There is also an interesting band from Sweden - KULTIVATOR. It's hard to say whether that band plays Zeuhl or jazz rock. They've got only one album: "Barndomens Stigar"  [1981].
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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2006 at 03:43
I had the pleasure of hearing Heldon's new Live '79 cd recently. An earth-shattering cosmik slew of an experience it is too !

                    http://www.captaintrip.co.jp/new9.html


Richard Pinhas and Antoine Paganotti and Jerome Schmidt are coming over to Tokyo at the end of this year. Gonna be joined with Ruins/Koenji Hyakkei's Yoshida Tatsuya. Think my head will explode.
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1. Magma - Kohntarkosz
 
2. Magma - 1001 degrees centigrades
 
3. Magma - Magma
 
4. Univers Zero - Heresie (It has influences of Zeuhl although its RIO)
 
5. Eskaton - 4 Visions
 
The LP version of Kohntarkosz was the best because the order of the tracks was perfect.  Ork Alarm was played between the two different parts of the title track which provided a good contrast.  Coltrane Sundia sounds better following Kohntarkosz part two as it does on the LP(vinyl).
 
Even Eskaton's 4 Visions was better on the cassette because again the tracks were in the ideal order.  Ecoute was like the first movement of a symphony (fast and loud).  Pitie was like the second movement of a symphony (a slow movement) and then Attente was the scherzo and Eskaton was the finale.
The music I enjoy is complex; varied; deep and well played.
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Points: 8890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2006 at 12:12
The only Zeuhl album I have is Udu Wudu.  It's great, but sort of disappointing... it's not as weird as I expected/hoped. Wink

I'll probably get some more Magma shortly, but Udu Wudu is the only album of theirs I can find cheap.  I really want Dun's album but I can't seem to find that anywhere!
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I turns me back for two minutes an' I find that I can't find sod all an' all me posts 'ave got buggered up !

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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2006 at 09:33
Le bump

      I had the pleasure to see Koenji Hyakkei live again last week and what a mind-altering lump of zeuhl they delivered...!

                         Review on the Performances page

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Hi Claire...!

...many, many, thanks for that info...!

(although heartbreaking)

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Points: 1819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:02

Originally posted by mithrandir mithrandir wrote:

I agree that Eider Stellaire I album is mammoth!  incredibly heavy stuff! Iwish they would give it a proper reissue, for I only have a burned CD straight from the vinyl.

Originally posted by ݂͂ ݂͂ wrote:

1st...stunning, as you know...! Original in a "Star-sign" blue cover, re-issues in a re-print of the 2nd's jacket

2nd...man, oh, man, did this take a long time to 'get' into...! You guys may think this is to the 1st what Van Halen II is to Van Halen I but man...! ...it's like way out there (in the taste stakes) Love it now but it took a good 35 listens until I was happy. Collectors: If you see this or the 1st going cheap(ish) don't hesitate...! (but I hope you are buying it for the music)

3rd...Musea label...easiest to get hold off. A very pleasant Zeuhl/Jazz/Lounge affair it is too...but be aware this clocks in at around the 25 to 30 minute mark

So come on Soleil Zeuhl...! Release these beauties NOW...!


...or...I may do it myself (...and trust me the artwork would be better )    x_O

 

Here are some notes from Alain of Soliel Zeul  [in 2000] on the status [unfortunate indeed!] of Eider Stellaire re-issues :
"Yes, a reissue of the 1st one is greatly needed. I tried to do so on my own
label last year and had a talk with Michel LE BARS. He does not want to see
ANY reissue of his first 2 LPs. I understood that the problem is not with the
music but with the fact that  he has "buried" his past and does not want to
see it come to light again. His changed his life and my call was not welcome
as he does not even want to talk about his music.
A bit later, I had a talk with Alain JULIAC ( MUSEA team ) and learned that
in the early 90's Michel LE BARS told him that in order to be sure that NO
ONE will ever make a reissue, he burned the master tapes. When I talked to
Michel he did not say that.
So ??????
The only thing sure is that no reissue will be done soon, very probably
never. Let's hope that through the years Michel will change his mind and that
what he told to A.JULIAC was not true...
So, for those who would like to hear this ZEUHL gem, find a tape or a Cd-r
somewhere or, if rich enough buy the LP on a collector's list ; but don't
expect a legal CD reissue."
 
Sorry about the sad news :(
Cleo


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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2006 at 14:03

listennow801...

...Evohe is the Holy Grail of Zeuhl...!

is it a live show ...? (there is a live show circulating)

I would happily donate a kidney to hear the studio LP.




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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2006 at 13:09
Originally posted by ݂͂ ݂͂ wrote:

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another one I've missed.....hahahah
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Points: 933 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2006 at 02:04
I like all Doom, from drone doom to more traditional doom bands, I love the spectrum from Trouble to Disembowlment to Moss, etc, its all love to me!  , I just threw out the comparison of Kohntarkosz in relation to something like Corrupted as you must have more patience than the average gnat to fully absorb the power of such a masterpiece as Kohntarkosz,  check that thread in the "Non-prog music" section of this forum for more doom talk,
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Points: 84 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2006 at 00:11
Interesting that you bring up doom. Some doom I like, some less so. I actually caught Corrupted in Tokyo maybe 7 years ago (and on St. Mark's Place maybe 9 years ago). Good live. Visceral. On record, it's a different thing altogether. Slow, oppressive, boring. That goes for Khanate, Moss and the other 10 million doom bands oozing into the world around now. The kind of doom that I can get with (other than doom rock or metal a la Trouble, Solitude Aeturnes, etc) is doom that has room for space, Disembowelment being my favorite. But, as you said, the constriction of Kohn., never allowing you to see the light of day, these are characteristics that I don't think present Magma at their most transcendent. For that, their best music is that which makes you feel like you can scale the Walls of Heaven or burst through the Gates, if necessary.
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Points: 933 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2006 at 21:22

for me I love the minimalist and heavy nature of Kohntarkosz, dark brooding constricting, never allowing you to see the light of day, I might come at this from a different angle than most here, being a huge Black Metal and Doom Metal fan, I can hear (and feel) many similarities between Kohntarkosz and an oppresive drawn out composition like Corrupted's "Llenandos de Gusanos"...perhaps, different sides of the same coin with the same goal in mind is the way i see it,

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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

There are several versions of Kohntarkosz out there, and the 'original' two parter is the one I like least. The Seventh records reissue contains version 2, which is played straight through as a single piece and somehow works a lot better without being radically different. The killer version of the piece, though, is on Live-Hhai. At about the 13 minute mark all the instruments stop except for the Fender Rhodes (which is where the part 1 of the vinyl version ended). The badn re-enters, and Gabriel Federow unleashes an electric violin solo of rare ferocity and precision - the rhythmic interplay between violin, bass, drums and keyboards leaves me breathless every time. There's also the ever ascending scale in part 1, and the conclusion to the piece is pretty stunning as well. It's all a matter of personal taste, though.

And did I mention the version of Theusz Hamtaahk on BBC Londres 1974?



couldn't agree more.. the Live Hhai version of Kohntarkosz is killer.
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