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Raff
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 05:14 |
Everybody knows by now that I am a Tolkien fan (more of a scholar, if the truth be told, but I don't want to show off too much ...). However, much fewer people if any know that I've read all six HP volumes (in English, of course!), and enjoyed them immensely. Hyped they may be, but in my very humble opinion they're not 'instant books' fated to a quick oblivion.
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Wilcey
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 05:00 |
I love to read, I am lost without a book...... my reading habit started VERY young with Enid Blyton, there has been a lot of talk about how these books were not good, ...... but hey, it started a habit that has stayed with me all my life!
My kids read a lot, especially my son.
I get bored with the HP "Hype" but I totally agree with Jim, HP and Tolkien..... great ways to fire the imaginations of kids!!! (cheaper than a PS2 too!!!)
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Jared
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 04:38 |
Jim Garten wrote:
There is nothing wrong with Harry Potter or The Lord Of The Rings - sure, they've been adopted by cinema (with varying degrees of success), but the film adaptations and the media hype detract from the fact these books are getting young people reading. They are getting parents reading to their kids - for the first time in God knows how long there is a genuine anticipation among children (and some adults ) for the release of a book - not some shoot-em-up game for their PC/X-Box/PS3/Commodore 64, but a book!
Of course it's being over hyped, and of course it's now become an industry, and of course there'll be kids pathetically dressed up as witches & wizards at midnight on the day of release... but the bottom line is, the Harry Potter books are well written fantasy for children - if you've read all the books (as have I), you'll know that each book has progressed in writing style and plot complexity - these are no 'Janet & John' books, you have to think. If just a small number of these kids go from JK Rowling to JRR Tolkein & then develop a love of books in general as a result of a combination of being enthused at an early age by the simple joy of reading and well made film adaptations, then it cannot be a bad thing.
I admit it freely - I am looking forward to the release of the next book - I have it pre-ordered on Amazon, so yah boo shucks to the lot of you! |
I agree with that completely, Jim... have a clappy..
When I was a kid, despite the best efforts of my parents, I really didn't enjoy reading, especially compared to my little sister who swallowed a book a day....
Even though I have forced myself to read as an adult (I probably manage a book a month these days...), it still doesn't come as naturally to me, as if I'd had started reading voluntarily at the age of 7. I've never read a HP book, and probably never will, but I genuinely wish they had been around back in 1974, when all we had was the Famous Five...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Jim Garten
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 03:52 |
There is nothing wrong with Harry Potter or The Lord Of The Rings - sure, they've been adopted by cinema (with varying degrees of success), but the film adaptations and the media hype detract from the fact these books are getting young people reading. They are getting parents reading to their kids - for the first time in God knows how long there is a genuine anticipation among children (and some adults ) for the release of a book - not some shoot-em-up game for their PC/X-Box/PS3/Commodore 64, but a book!
Of course it's being over hyped, and of course it's now become an industry, and of course there'll be kids pathetically dressed up as witches & wizards at midnight on the day of release... but the bottom line is, the Harry Potter books are well written fantasy for children - if you've read all the books (as have I), you'll know that each book has progressed in writing style and plot complexity - these are no 'Janet & John' books, you have to think. If just a small number of these kids go from JK Rowling to JRR Tolkein & then develop a love of books in general as a result of a combination of being enthused at an early age by the simple joy of reading and well made film adaptations, then it cannot be a bad thing.
I admit it freely - I am looking forward to the release of the next book - I have it pre-ordered on Amazon, so yah boo shucks to the lot of you!
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Neil
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 03:31 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Harry Potter, diehard Harry Potter fans and anything else that's weird about Harry Potter. |
What about "Lord of the Rings"
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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cookieacquired
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 21:39 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
Harry Potter, diehard Harry Potter fans and anything else that's weird about Harry Potter.
Why why why! Can't people wait patiently for the book to come out? Fandom is weird and I've never understood it.
I'm hoping Rowling kills him off. I feel kind of sorry for her, she probably never invisaged all of this. If I was her, I'd have killed him off much earlier, rather than having to deal with all that stress and silly fans.
Meh, Harry Potter fever just gets to me.
From The Guardian Online:
Diehard fans will be planning just how they can get to the head of the queue at midnight on July 21 - named yesterday on JK Rowling's website as publication day for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final book in the series.
Bookshops were braced for the now traditional witching hour scrum and at least one said it planned to set up a helpline for fans after Rowling warned that two characters die in the final instalment - and hinted that they are central figures.
This is what I mean. It's just a book people!
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At this point, the only reason I'm going to read the book is just to see who dies...I hope Harry does, sheerly for the reaction of all the fanbois and gurls
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I'm going to go to London, get it earlier, and spoil it for all the little kids who want to marry Harry when they get older
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 19:35 |
Geck0 wrote:
Harry Potter, diehard Harry Potter fans and anything else that's weird about Harry Potter.
Why why why! Can't people wait patiently for the book to come out? Fandom is weird and I've never understood it.
I'm hoping Rowling kills him off. I feel kind of sorry for her, she probably never invisaged all of this. If I was her, I'd have killed him off much earlier, rather than having to deal with all that stress and silly fans.
Meh, Harry Potter fever just gets to me.
From The Guardian Online:
Diehard fans will be planning just how they can get to the head of the
queue at midnight on July 21 - named yesterday on JK Rowling's website
as publication day for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final
book in the series.Bookshops were braced for the now traditional
witching hour scrum and at least one said it planned to set up a
helpline for fans after Rowling warned that two characters die in the
final instalment - and hinted that they are central figures.
This is what I mean. It's just a book people!
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At this point, the only reason I'm going to read the book is just to see who dies...I hope Harry does, sheerly for the reaction of all the fanbois and gurls
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Syzygy
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 19:15 |
And another ing thing is David ing Cameron's brief experience with da ganja while he was poncing about in ing Eton like any er gives a flying I mean him and the majority of British teenagers over the last 50 years but what really ed me off was him maintaining a prissy ing silence and his PR people saying we all do things we regret - my ing arse! Not quite as bad as Bill ing Clinton's 'I did not inhale' cop out - too ing weak willed to say no, too ing scared to try it, more like - why can't one of those ing ers who presume to rule our lives just say 'I did it and what's more I ing enjoyed it and no ing regrets' - now that would get my vote even for a ing Tory ing like Cameron!
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
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The Miracle
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Posted: February 09 2007 at 16:42 |
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Neil
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Posted: February 09 2007 at 09:29 |
Syzygy wrote:
And let's not forget the long running Essex blues band The Hamsters.
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In their 20th year and recently played their 3,000th gig. I saw them last week and they are still as good and as enthusiastic as always.
With stage names like Snail's Pace Slim (guitar), Zsa Zsa Poltergiest (bass) and The Reverend Otis Elevator (drums) they don't take life too seriously either.
Oops, I'm in danger of not ranting
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Jared
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Posted: February 09 2007 at 04:11 |
[QUOTE=The-Bullet]Unbe f***ing lievable. Am I now being forced to give Jeffrey Archer money via my TV license fee also ? Way to go, bloody BBC.
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yeah...and Stan 'domestic violence' Collymore too, into the bargain....
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Jim Garten
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Posted: February 09 2007 at 03:54 |
The Miracle wrote:
People.... Their utter inability to shut up is horrible. |
Says a man with in excess of 22,300 posts to his name
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Jim Garten
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Posted: February 09 2007 at 03:52 |
Syzygy wrote:
And another thing
Apparently Dream ing Theater are releasing another ing album - I mean for 's sake it only seems like 5 minutes since ing Octavarium came out and every other thread on the ing forum was devoted to that ing, ing total ing squandering of talent and electricity and then the ing live album and then the ing DVD and then the ing live album with orchestra and then the ing DVD of that as well I mean don't those guys ever take a ing holiday you'd think they could just off to Barbados for a decade or so and wait for Yes and Metallica to release some more material for them to rip off but what really s my s is the way that every ing note of music they ever ing fart out gets about eight ing trillion 5 star reviews, half of them before the ing thing has even been released.
OK, I'll say no more about it and I hope that DT's numerous fans thoroughly enjoy the latest release from their heroes. The s! |
Ladies and gentlemen - only February, and we have the first contender for Rant Of The Year - no punctuation, plenty of gratuitous invective and abuse, a classic line in "just off to Barbados for a decade or so and wait for Yes and Metallica to release some more material for them to rip off"...
...the only caveat here is Syzygy's ommission of the obligatory Theater/Theatre argument (later quoted in an addendum) but a fine effort nonetheless
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 09 2007 at 02:15 |
Harry Potter, diehard Harry Potter fans and anything else that's weird about Harry Potter. Why why why! Can't people wait patiently for the book to come out? Fandom is weird and I've never understood it. I'm hoping Rowling kills him off. I feel kind of sorry for her, she probably never invisaged all of this. If I was her, I'd have killed him off much earlier, rather than having to deal with all that stress and silly fans. Meh, Harry Potter fever just gets to me. From The Guardian Online: Diehard fans will be planning just how they can get to the head of the
queue at midnight on July 21 - named yesterday on JK Rowling's website
as publication day for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final
book in the series. Bookshops were braced for the now traditional
witching hour scrum and at least one said it planned to set up a
helpline for fans after Rowling warned that two characters die in the
final instalment - and hinted that they are central figures.
This is what I mean. It's just a book people!
Edited by Geck0 - February 09 2007 at 02:18
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The Miracle
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Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:40 |
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The Miracle
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Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:39 |
People. Why don;t they all just die? Loud, annoying, stupid creatures crawling all over the place trying to be as annoying as it is virtually possible, making me want ti kill myself more and more with every day. Their utter inability to shut up is horrible. Why does some asshole have to come and say something stupid whenever you get excited over something. Whatever I am happy about, someone will come and spoil everything with his/her stupid opinion about how much they hate it as I dream about ripping their brains out with fishing hooks. the entire world exists just to piss me off. There's no retreat from them. Like last Friday when I went to the mountains to take a rest from people, there were plastic bottles in the middle of the forest, that i had to take out for the asshole that left them. Damn, I hate people so much I want to become a hermit and go far into the woods and live there alone, and whenever I see a person he gets a poisoned arrow in his guts.
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:28 |
Geck0 wrote:
Also, The Beacon Theatre is spelt as Theatre, so the Americans don't know what they're doing... |
Have we ever?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:23 |
Also, The Beacon Theatre is spelt as Theatre, so the Americans don't know what they're doing... At least be consistent! Theater or Theatre. Not one or the other.
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Logan
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Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:11 |
Oops, I edited my post for more potential rant worthiness (I knew
Arrrghus was playing along rant-style and didn't wish it to seem I
thought otherwise as I'm not a regular in this topic). Caught in the act -- worse still that hamsters were involved.
"Hampster's"? I wonder if, perhaps, they were selling hampers for rodents? The Hamsters -- I don't know them -- good, or bottom, band would you say?
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Arrrghus
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Posted: February 08 2007 at 19:54 |
Syzygy wrote:
Incidentally, if you like flugelhorns I recommend the Art Farmer Quartet's Sing Me Softly Of The Blues - jazz without a hint of rock, but some splendid flugelhorn and two immense compositions by Carla Bley.
Anyway, back to the ing ranting ... |
I'll check into it (if I have the time... and money!)
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