Am I reading this correctly?

thellama73 wrote: this may be is absolutely my favorite thread on PA right now.

Andy Webb wrote: ^Fantastic

I heartily agree. 

On a good day I'd give Awake a hearty ****/*****. Nothing mind-blowing (though Space-Dye Vest came really close when I was a dumb teenager). Certainly a great album I'm glad to have listened to.

No, I'm just a sardonic a****le. I actually prefer Dream Theater's Awake to Shadow Gallery's...anything. Not by much. 

Carved in Stone was an album by Shadow Gallery - MUCH better than Dream Theatre!

dtguitarfan wrote: HarbouringTheSoul wrote: Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here? Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.

I find that rather unsurprising. Prog metal isn't necessarily appealing to the average 70s prog fan.

dtguitarfan wrote: That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.

Also rather unsurprising, considering the other five bands are all classic prog bands that almost anybody here can agree on. Prog metal, on the other hand, is much more specific and will thus polarize more. It has nothing to do with Dream Theater themselves.

dtguitarfan wrote: This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts.

1. You're the only one who harps on that, and that's only because you made a shtick out of it because it annoys people.
2. They're not hated around here. A band whose highest-rated album is at 4.29 isn't hated. 4.29 is a very high rating.
3. Nothing destroys your credibility more than using the word "hater", except maybe the "you're all just jealous" and the "you all just don't understand it" argument. Observe progbethyname's post above for how it makes you sound like a desperate fanboy who can't defend his object of obsession with a good argument.

On a lighter note (because this thread needs more humor), gotta love the random Heino album.


Edited by HarbouringTheSoul - October 04 2012 at 19:22

dtguitarfan wrote: HarbouringTheSoul wrote: Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here? Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.  Go ahead, check it out.  Also, check this out: http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1500&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=0&y=0#list That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.  This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts.

When one is up against such highly regarded classics, there's no need to feel any persecution.

1		5.00 |  2332 ratings QWR = 4.9999	The Problem Of Pain: Part 1  Torman Maxt	Progressive Metal Studio, 2007	Shop
2		4.63 | 1647 ratings QWR = 4.43	Say Cheese, Christmas With Marillion Marillion	Neo Prog Promo, 2000	Shop
3		4.62 | 2165 ratings QWR = 4.6006	Merry Christmas From The Morse Family Neal Morse	Symphonic Prog Promo , 2003	Shop
4		4.61 | 2102 ratings QWR = 4.5984	The Hits Of Pink Floyd Darker Side Of The Moon	Psychedelic/Space Rock Various Artists, 2004	Shop
5		4.60 | 1811 ratings QWR = 4.5768	Concerto in True Minor True Symphonic Rockestra (with James La Brie, Phil von Gouda, and Earl de Camembert)	Progressive Metal Studio, 2008	Shop
6		4.58 | 2155 ratings QWR = 4.5658	Sehnsucks Lacrimosa	Progressive Metal Studio, 2009	Shop
7		4.57 | 2235 ratings QWR = 4.5598	Leibe Mutter... Heino	Krautrock Studio, 1966	Shop
8		4.50 | 1800 ratings QWR = 4.4856	Under Wraps Jethro Tull	Prog Folk Studio, 1984	Shop
9		4.50 | 1611 ratings QWR = 4.4849	Tribute to Dream Theater String Quartet	Various Artists Studio, 2007	Shop
10		4.42 | 1683 ratings QWR = 4.4022	Open Your Eyes Yes	Symphonic Prog Studio, 1997	Shop
11		4.41 | 1527 ratings QWR = 4.3899	Calling All Stations Genesis	Symphonic Prog Studio, 1997	Shop
12		4.34 | 1522 ratings QWR = .35	Love Beach Emerson, Lake & Palmer	Symphonic Prog Studio, 1978	Shop
13		4.29 | 1528 ratings QWR = 4.2757	Images And Words Dream Theater	Progressive Metal Studio, 1992	Shop
14		4.28 | 1592 ratings QWR = 4.2675	Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory Dream Theater	Progressive Metal Studio, 1999	Shop

Edited by Logan - October 04 2012 at 18:51

dtguitarfan wrote: HarbouringTheSoul wrote: Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here? Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.  Go ahead, check it out.  Also, check this out: http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1500&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=0&y=0#list That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.  This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts.

pianoman wrote: dtguitarfan wrote: Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.  Go ahead, check it out.  Also, check this out:http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1500&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=0&y=0#listThat's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.  This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts. God...i don't even want to know how the post rock/math rock genre compares, hahaha

Highest rating is 4.42. 
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=32&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=55&y=8#list
Of course, it only has 32 ratings...


Edited by dtguitarfan - October 04 2012 at 17:19

progbethyname wrote: Ok. Why the f**k do people hate on Dream Theater so much? I really don't get it. Dream Theater are thier own unique, creative force. I think other people and bands alike are jealous of the virtuoso talent