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kenethlevine
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 19:47 |
just broke the tie in favor of Talk Talk
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Rando
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 19:27 |
t d wombat wrote:
"...What is more, Eden has had me scrabbling to find what else these guys did and I'm starting to get a bit pissed that I didn't find them 30 years ago. Eden may be their masterpiece but Colour of Spring and Laughing Stock are not to be sneezed at. Nor is Mark Hollis' S/T solo album. |
Totally agree - Also very much attached to their earlier album "The Party's Over" the title track, an amazing song which should have had more notice - I never tire listening to Mark Hollis' passionate voice -
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Smurph
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 19:00 |
Dean wrote:
Skalla-Grim wrote:
Doesn't matter because I can't vote for Koenjihyakkei. No vote
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Well I love Koenji too but I still voted.
I mean... I'm probably gonna have to choose between a butthole and a wackjob for president and I'll probably vote for something at least or maybe write in my dad's name.
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t d wombat
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 18:52 |
Hybris is a nice album. How much I enjoy tends to vary a bit but it is one of those albums that you can throw on when you cannot think of something else. Therein lies its problem I guess. What's more I've not really been motivated by Hybris to go off and explore more of Anglagard's catalogue. Nonetheless I'm going to do so and have another full listen to Hybris before I vote.
Otoh, Eden has me totally sucked in and has had since pretty much first listen. The bombast of 70's Prog/ArtRock/Symphonic whatever the truck you want to call it was for me a wondrous thing but even back then I needed on occasion something a bit simpler, a bit cleaner and for me a bit bleaker to clear the bombast induced fog. Not that there was anything wrong with the fog but we all need some shade with our light. Full moon is a wondrous thing as it rises over the ocean but its only on moonless nights that you get to see the stars. What is more, Eden has had me scrabbling to find what else these guys did and I'm starting to get a bit pissed that I didn't find them 30 years ago. Eden may be their masterpiece but Colour of Spring and Laughing Stock are not to be sneezed at. Nor is Mark Hollis' S/T solo album.
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Andrew B
“Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” ― Julius Henry Marx
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Disparate Times
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 15:36 |
Talk talk easily, this is like a slap in the face to modern prog with the age of these two finalist.
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memowakeman
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 15:27 |
Love Talk Talkt, but Hybris wins to me.
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Meltdowner
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 14:25 |
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Dean
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 14:12 |
Skalla-Grim wrote:
Doesn't matter because I can't vote for Koenjihyakkei. No vote
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in a knock-out tournament final you don't get to vote on an album that has already been knocked out. Sorry, but life's like that.
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What?
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Skalla-Grim
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 14:01 |
Doesn't matter because I can't vote for Koenjihyakkei. No vote
Edited by Skalla-Grim - September 28 2015 at 14:02
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AEProgman
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 12:20 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Need to listen to Talk Talk again before voting, first two times have done nothing for me. | Not sure if "forced", premeditated (as opposed to "casual") listens are conducive to appreciation. Worked for AEProgman (strangely), but it might not work for you.
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Yeah, I think forced or hurried listening usually does not have the same effect. When I first listened to Talk Talk, it happened to be the right time and was sort of a casual listen and was ready to kick back and try something new. It just struck a chord with me (pun not intended) and clicked. That and an extra glass of Merlot may have had something to do with it.
The beauty of these silly polls is to get exposed to new music which is always a good thing!
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 12:19 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Need to listen to Talk Talk again before voting, first two times have done nothing for me. | Not sure if "forced", premeditated (as opposed to "casual") listens are conducive to appreciation. Worked for AEProgman (strangely), but it might not work for you.
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Well 3 listens in and it's just not working for me. Hybris it is (though my heart is with Guapo)
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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Moogtron III
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 04:03 |
Although I very much admire Talk Talk, who used to be a more commercial band, for their very unusual move towards very original and uncommercial music (usually inventive bands turn commercial after some years), I choose with my heart: Hybris is closer to my heart.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 23:53 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Need to listen to Talk Talk again before voting, first two times have done nothing for me. |
Not sure if "forced", premeditated (as opposed to "casual") listens are conducive to appreciation. Worked for AEProgman (strangely), but it might not work for you.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - September 28 2015 at 00:02
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pianoman
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 12:05 |
Hybris is good, but Spirit of Eden changed my life.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 11:14 |
sleeper wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
Nope.I will say here that Spirit of Eden is not a Progressive rock album, because it's simply true. |
This is why most people consider you a complete arse, because it's simply true.
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Ian
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https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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sleeper
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 11:07 |
micky wrote:
fair enough.. wasn't trying to single you out or pull a 'taste' card on you..I just found it odd to label an album boring.. when it is not remotely intending to be anything approaching inducing excitement the way a good rollicking album should.
It is what it is.. it connects with a listener or it does not.
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I know, but I've been saying EoE sucks all the way through so might as well say why I think it sucks. For me boring is when an album fails to connect in anyway with me, music doesn't have to be full on hard rockign to be exciting, or riveting, but it does have to grab my attention in some way. That last sentence couldn't be more true.
Svetonio wrote:
Raff wrote:
(...) If anyone doesn't like the way PA is
organized, they are free to look for a "pure" prog website where
abominations such as having 10cc in Prog Related or Spirit of Eden categorized as prog are not to be found.
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Nope.I will say here that Spirit of Eden is not a Progressive rock album, because it's simply true. |
This is why most people consider you a complete arse, because it's simply true.
Edited by sleeper - September 27 2015 at 11:09
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Smurph
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:47 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I prefer the Univer Zero / Present / Shub Niggurath dark years :D |
<3
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micky
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:33 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:31 |
I prefer the Univer Zero / Present / Shub Niggurath dark years :D
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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micky
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:29 |
in 10 years we'll have 3 brackets classic the Neo/retroprog/SWilson dark years and a true 'modern'
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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