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The question is probably not well defined, since as soon we are talking about genre, we are talking about a typology and a typology is always a typology of something - in this case music.

I think the discussion that is referred to was much more triggered by this exchange:
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Yes. For me, music has to have rhythm, melody, and harmony. Acepella is only one out of three.

Music has to have sound, sound, and sound. That's more than enough.

Which is a different questioning than to talk about musical genres...

I guess that as soon sound is being made with an intention that goes beyond the mere communication function but looks for a poetic function, we could talk about music. "Harmony" is something very much culturally determined... So, yes, sound, sound and sound, as soon as there is some intentional composing behind it... I guess...
(now, to contradict - or question - myself: are birds singing producing music...?)

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I guess I need to read the original thread, but yeah...music is music. There are definitely genres where the music is secondary (for example, rap and pop), but they are still music. 
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I agree with JD.........any genre of music is music. How is music not music??
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'Music' comes from the Greek mousa (muse),
The Muses were the Greek poets' divinized conceptions of the faculties that help them to create and recite poetry.
So, the simple answer to your question is, NO, certain genres (whatever they are) are ALWAYS music.
Next question?
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Well, I knew a definition of music would have to follow. But some people have different ideas of music. My approach is pretty all-encompassing, and depends solely on the intent of the artist. Frank Zappa has a pretty open-ended definition of a composition in his book.

How do you define music?
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Define "music" please....
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I made this since Lewian thought it better to discuss on a thread not dedicated to a Steven Wilson interview. I agree. 

Have at it. 
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