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lazland
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Posted: March 18 2020 at 03:25 |
rogerthat wrote:
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No? Really? Have you been watching, listening, and reading the news lately? |
I READ the news and since I don't live in UK and don't have to read tabloids, nothing I have read makes me ALARMED but certainly cautious and careful. I have long since stopped WATCHING news because in my country, as in the US, TV 'news' is just an excuse for the anchors and debate participants to yell at the screen and whip up hysteria. It may be a virus now but it was Muslims/KKK/SJWs/incels depending on the specific network bias earlier. OK, I will amend it a little, I only watch a morning news segment on the news channel NDTV which still tries to keep some reporting format programs alive while having to conform to the debate fetish of its competitors. Likewise I may watch the channel's 8 PM bulletin because it is again a pure NEWS bulletin. I do not want to know what 'opinion makers' think about covid. I form opinions based on the news, I don't need others telling me what to think through a TV screen. |
And on this, we agree There is a huge amount of hysteria, and it is not limited, I am afraid, to the tabloid press here.
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 18 2020 at 03:21 |
lazland wrote:
No? Really? Have you been watching, listening, and reading the news lately? |
I READ the news and since I don't live in UK and don't have to read tabloids, nothing I have read makes me ALARMED but certainly cautious and careful. I have long since stopped WATCHING news because in my country, as in the US, TV 'news' is just an excuse for the anchors and debate participants to yell at the screen and whip up hysteria. It may be a virus now but it was Muslims/KKK/SJWs/incels depending on the specific network bias earlier. OK, I will amend it a little, I only watch a morning news segment on the news channel NDTV which still tries to keep some reporting format programs alive while having to conform to the debate fetish of its competitors. Likewise I may watch the channel's 8 PM bulletin because it is again a pure NEWS bulletin. I do not want to know what 'opinion makers' think about covid. I form opinions based on the news, I don't need others telling me what to think through a TV screen.
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lazland
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Posted: March 18 2020 at 03:15 |
rogerthat wrote:
lazland wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
SteveG wrote:
lazland wrote:
Steve. What you have posted in response has not cut across very well on my iPad, so I am unable to read half of it, sorry.
However, from what I can make out, you appear to be confirming the “fear” narrative that I referred to.
Yes, it has been confirmed as a pandemic. However, that rather vicious sounding word is rather taken out of context. It means the global spread of an infection or virus to which there is, as yet, no natural immunity or cure. It does not, repeat does not, make any reference to the severity of said virus.
Anyhow, I am just about to take my niece and the dog to the pub. A couple of pints to look forward to.
| Laz, there's no one more pragmatic than I. I don't feel that proper precautions for containing this virus is being fearful. Only smart. I've edited the post and got rid of the gak. Have a pint on me. |
Yes and let me make an argument here from a pure business perspective. Even if people don't die of it, if they are infected, they are out of action for a minimum two weeks. Now what would you prefer? To implement social distancing, impose WFH and cut down productivity by 20-30% tops and keep things chugging along? Or to risk one person getting infected and force the entire floor into a lockdown? This happened in our company's UAE office by the way. The top management still refused to learn the right lessons from it but luckily Mumbai's municipal corporation took the decision out of corporates' hands by forcing minimum 50% work from home to be implemented. It's a huge loss for the nation's financial capital but with a population of over 20 million, we cannot afford a large proportion of it getting infected. Our healthcare 'system', such as it is, wouldn't possibly be able to handle it.
This is not fear, this is just being careful. Yes, the economic impact is bad but it would be much, much worse if the virus was allowed to spread unmitigated with zero precautions. It has worked in China and it will work elsewhere if people were less resistant to adjusting their lives for a temporary period. I understand that this is easier said than done for those who are at the lower end of the economic stratum or those who work in outdoor experience based jobs like restaurants or amusement parks which are the worst hit. But there are many of us who are in fact able to take these precautions and we should. Not because we are going to get it and it would be awful but because we shouldn't be carriers of the disease.
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Actually, I am not altogether sure that the economic impact would be much much worse if the virus were allowed to spread unmitigated. I believe that the measures being taken will have the direst impact in the medium term on people’s livelihoods.
This morning, it has been reported that recorded cases have risen to 200,000. That is a number which sounds very big, but not too big that our brains cannot comprehend it. The world population, meanwhile, is stated to be 7.8 billion. Work out the maths. It means that something like 0.003% of the world have been recorded as infected, if the figures are accurate.
The virus was allowed to spread pretty much unmitigated for at least two months in China. There are quite a few of them about. In the same way, last week I was travelling across the U.K. with work in busy trains and tubes and offices. The draconian measures really are a wee bit too late to stop the potential spread over the last few weeks.
In reality, there are probably many more people infected. Let’s say it is understated five fold, and it is a million, because the other 800,000 suffered no more than mild symptoms not requiring any tests or self isolation. Of course, if that is the case, it reduces the death rate of this virus by a fair margin, to less than 1%. Or, to put it another way, you probably have a 99%+ chance of not dying.
Without wishing to upset anyone affected, or worried, I am simply trying to put all of this in perspective. If this is a virus attempt to wipe out civilisation on earth, then it is a pretty piss poor attempt. The damage from the panic, fear, and loathing created will, believe me, be far more lasting and damaging. |
I don't know anyone who thinks this is a civilisational apocalypse come in the form of a virus. |
No? Really? Have you been watching, listening, and reading the news lately?
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 18 2020 at 03:07 |
lazland wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
SteveG wrote:
lazland wrote:
Steve. What you have posted in response has not cut across very well on my iPad, so I am unable to read half of it, sorry.
However, from what I can make out, you appear to be confirming the “fear” narrative that I referred to.
Yes, it has been confirmed as a pandemic. However, that rather vicious sounding word is rather taken out of context. It means the global spread of an infection or virus to which there is, as yet, no natural immunity or cure. It does not, repeat does not, make any reference to the severity of said virus.
Anyhow, I am just about to take my niece and the dog to the pub. A couple of pints to look forward to.
| Laz, there's no one more pragmatic than I. I don't feel that proper precautions for containing this virus is being fearful. Only smart. I've edited the post and got rid of the gak. Have a pint on me. |
Yes and let me make an argument here from a pure business perspective. Even if people don't die of it, if they are infected, they are out of action for a minimum two weeks. Now what would you prefer? To implement social distancing, impose WFH and cut down productivity by 20-30% tops and keep things chugging along? Or to risk one person getting infected and force the entire floor into a lockdown? This happened in our company's UAE office by the way. The top management still refused to learn the right lessons from it but luckily Mumbai's municipal corporation took the decision out of corporates' hands by forcing minimum 50% work from home to be implemented. It's a huge loss for the nation's financial capital but with a population of over 20 million, we cannot afford a large proportion of it getting infected. Our healthcare 'system', such as it is, wouldn't possibly be able to handle it.
This is not fear, this is just being careful. Yes, the economic impact is bad but it would be much, much worse if the virus was allowed to spread unmitigated with zero precautions. It has worked in China and it will work elsewhere if people were less resistant to adjusting their lives for a temporary period. I understand that this is easier said than done for those who are at the lower end of the economic stratum or those who work in outdoor experience based jobs like restaurants or amusement parks which are the worst hit. But there are many of us who are in fact able to take these precautions and we should. Not because we are going to get it and it would be awful but because we shouldn't be carriers of the disease.
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Actually, I am not altogether sure that the economic impact would be much much worse if the virus were allowed to spread unmitigated. I believe that the measures being taken will have the direst impact in the medium term on people’s livelihoods.
This morning, it has been reported that recorded cases have risen to 200,000. That is a number which sounds very big, but not too big that our brains cannot comprehend it. The world population, meanwhile, is stated to be 7.8 billion. Work out the maths. It means that something like 0.003% of the world have been recorded as infected, if the figures are accurate.
The virus was allowed to spread pretty much unmitigated for at least two months in China. There are quite a few of them about. In the same way, last week I was travelling across the U.K. with work in busy trains and tubes and offices. The draconian measures really are a wee bit too late to stop the potential spread over the last few weeks.
In reality, there are probably many more people infected. Let’s say it is understated five fold, and it is a million, because the other 800,000 suffered no more than mild symptoms not requiring any tests or self isolation. Of course, if that is the case, it reduces the death rate of this virus by a fair margin, to less than 1%. Or, to put it another way, you probably have a 99%+ chance of not dying.
Without wishing to upset anyone affected, or worried, I am simply trying to put all of this in perspective. If this is a virus attempt to wipe out civilisation on earth, then it is a pretty piss poor attempt. The damage from the panic, fear, and loathing created will, believe me, be far more lasting and damaging. |
I don't know anyone who thinks this is a civilisational apocalypse come in the form of a virus. The singular aspect of it though that has govts advocating drastic measures is how quickly it spreads/has spread. It will be impossible for healthcare systems anywhere to handle (outside of small and prosperous nations like Korea) if it is allowed to spread unrestricted. Everybody realises they are behind the curve but all that is being done is to limit the damage as far as possible. I do not buy your view that it is probably already too late to contain the damage. Not all countries have the same people-to-people contact with China that, say, Italy has. Trump was criticised for blocking travel from China but it was the correct step to take while not enough by itself by any means.
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lazland
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Posted: March 18 2020 at 02:10 |
rogerthat wrote:
SteveG wrote:
lazland wrote:
Steve. What you have posted in response has not cut across very well on my iPad, so I am unable to read half of it, sorry.
However, from what I can make out, you appear to be confirming the “fear” narrative that I referred to.
Yes, it has been confirmed as a pandemic. However, that rather vicious sounding word is rather taken out of context. It means the global spread of an infection or virus to which there is, as yet, no natural immunity or cure. It does not, repeat does not, make any reference to the severity of said virus.
Anyhow, I am just about to take my niece and the dog to the pub. A couple of pints to look forward to.
| Laz, there's no one more pragmatic than I. I don't feel that proper precautions for containing this virus is being fearful. Only smart. I've edited the post and got rid of the gak. Have a pint on me. |
Yes and let me make an argument here from a pure business perspective. Even if people don't die of it, if they are infected, they are out of action for a minimum two weeks. Now what would you prefer? To implement social distancing, impose WFH and cut down productivity by 20-30% tops and keep things chugging along? Or to risk one person getting infected and force the entire floor into a lockdown? This happened in our company's UAE office by the way. The top management still refused to learn the right lessons from it but luckily Mumbai's municipal corporation took the decision out of corporates' hands by forcing minimum 50% work from home to be implemented. It's a huge loss for the nation's financial capital but with a population of over 20 million, we cannot afford a large proportion of it getting infected. Our healthcare 'system', such as it is, wouldn't possibly be able to handle it.
This is not fear, this is just being careful. Yes, the economic impact is bad but it would be much, much worse if the virus was allowed to spread unmitigated with zero precautions. It has worked in China and it will work elsewhere if people were less resistant to adjusting their lives for a temporary period. I understand that this is easier said than done for those who are at the lower end of the economic stratum or those who work in outdoor experience based jobs like restaurants or amusement parks which are the worst hit. But there are many of us who are in fact able to take these precautions and we should. Not because we are going to get it and it would be awful but because we shouldn't be carriers of the disease.
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Actually, I am not altogether sure that the economic impact would be much much worse if the virus were allowed to spread unmitigated. I believe that the measures being taken will have the direst impact in the medium term on people’s livelihoods.
This morning, it has been reported that recorded cases have risen to 200,000. That is a number which sounds very big, but not too big that our brains cannot comprehend it. The world population, meanwhile, is stated to be 7.8 billion. Work out the maths. It means that something like 0.003% of the world have been recorded as infected, if the figures are accurate.
The virus was allowed to spread pretty much unmitigated for at least two months in China. There are quite a few of them about. In the same way, last week I was travelling across the U.K. with work in busy trains and tubes and offices. The draconian measures really are a wee bit too late to stop the potential spread over the last few weeks.
In reality, there are probably many more people infected. Let’s say it is understated five fold, and it is a million, because the other 800,000 suffered no more than mild symptoms not requiring any tests or self isolation. Of course, if that is the case, it reduces the death rate of this virus by a fair margin, to less than 1%. Or, to put it another way, you probably have a 99%+ chance of not dying.
Without wishing to upset anyone affected, or worried, I am simply trying to put all of this in perspective. If this is a virus attempt to wipe out civilisation on earth, then it is a pretty piss poor attempt. The damage from the panic, fear, and loathing created will, believe me, be far more lasting and damaging.
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 18 2020 at 00:19 |
SteveG wrote:
lazland wrote:
Steve. What you have posted in response has not cut across very well on my iPad, so I am unable to read half of it, sorry.
However, from what I can make out, you appear to be confirming the “fear” narrative that I referred to.
Yes, it has been confirmed as a pandemic. However, that rather vicious sounding word is rather taken out of context. It means the global spread of an infection or virus to which there is, as yet, no natural immunity or cure. It does not, repeat does not, make any reference to the severity of said virus.
Anyhow, I am just about to take my niece and the dog to the pub. A couple of pints to look forward to.
| Laz, there's no one more pragmatic than I. I don't feel that proper precautions for containing this virus is being fearful. Only smart. I've edited the post and got rid of the gak. Have a pint on me. |
Yes and let me make an argument here from a pure business perspective. Even if people don't die of it, if they are infected, they are out of action for a minimum two weeks. Now what would you prefer? To implement social distancing, impose WFH and cut down productivity by 20-30% tops and keep things chugging along? Or to risk one person getting infected and force the entire floor into a lockdown? This happened in our company's UAE office by the way. The top management still refused to learn the right lessons from it but luckily Mumbai's municipal corporation took the decision out of corporates' hands by forcing minimum 50% work from home to be implemented. It's a huge loss for the nation's financial capital but with a population of over 20 million, we cannot afford a large proportion of it getting infected. Our healthcare 'system', such as it is, wouldn't possibly be able to handle it.
This is not fear, this is just being careful. Yes, the economic impact is bad but it would be much, much worse if the virus was allowed to spread unmitigated with zero precautions. It has worked in China and it will work elsewhere if people were less resistant to adjusting their lives for a temporary period. I understand that this is easier said than done for those who are at the lower end of the economic stratum or those who work in outdoor experience based jobs like restaurants or amusement parks which are the worst hit. But there are many of us who are in fact able to take these precautions and we should. Not because we are going to get it and it would be awful but because we shouldn't be carriers of the disease.
Edited by rogerthat - March 18 2020 at 00:22
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 23:32 |
jamesbaldwin wrote:
Boris Johnson's politics is criminal
(This is an Italian article, that I have translated with gogle)
Hundreds of members of the BRITISH scientific community have sent two open letters to the UK Government, expressing strong concern about the approach taken against the spread of Coronavirus in the country. In a letter, 198 academics in mathematics and science called for urgent measures of social distancing, calling the government's strategy of developing herd immunity an option that "does not seem viable". In another letter, 164 behavioural scientists questioned Downing Street's contention that if drastic measures are imposed on the public too soon, they will eventually return to previous behaviour.
So far the UK government has refused to take social initiatives, such as closing schools or even closing the nation like other European countries, advising self-isolation for anyone showing symptoms of Coronavirus. For the British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, measures against the spread of Coronavirus are useless. To avoid contagion, the development of 'herd immunity' would be sufficient. Herd immunity occurs when a large number of people are immunized and or vaccinated, if there is a vaccine, against an infection. In the case of the current virus there is still no vaccine and when there will be it will be necessary to assess the effectiveness of the vaccine on people. If the vaccine works, all vaccinated people will act as a barrier to the spread of the infection. Boris Johnson's recipe is considered ruthless by many epidemiologists and unable to stem the pandemic.
Walter Ricciardi, a consultant to the Ministry of Health and a member of the Committee of Civil Protection Experts, points out that without a vaccine immunity is not certain and that in the UK the decision taken in an attempt to block Coronavirus is not ethical. Johnson's exhortation is to listen to his epidemiologists. ""I think we'll see more specific therapy than a vaccine first. It is absolutely unethical to accept that people get sick in order to create an immunity of flocks which is not even safe; because it is a new virus and there are still no scientific confirmations on a lasting immunity after the disease. Those who have been infected could also take it back as far as we know at the moment." Walter Ricciardi, in an interview with Repubblica, specifies how: "Our Government has received all the indications of the scientific community, which the English one is not doing. Yet they have epidemiologists from imperial College London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and a journal like Lancet. They would be top-notch public health advisers who are obviously ignoring them.' The United Kingdom, Ricciardi points out, in this way "runs the risk of being invested more violently than the others and above all can become the area that keeps the infection alive and latent, when others have already managed to contain it. Thus it becomes what no one would want to be considered: the aor of the world."
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He has since appeared to walk back this one at least somewhat. But this desire of the British administration to be exceptional and cleverer-than-thou, which came to the fore during Brexit too, is indeed strange.
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 23:06 |
Argo2112 wrote:
chopper wrote:
I went to our local Sainsburys at lunchtime, I would guess it was two thirds empty - very little fruit or vegetables, hardly any meat or frozen food. I'm going to stock up on whisky and stay p*ssed till it's all over. |
Whisky & Toilet Paper, Don't forget the toilet paper! | Regarding the t.p. hoarding. Trying to get a handle on it, I came to this conclusion. Americans do give a sh*t. But only about themselves.
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 21:35 |
Atavachron wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
S.F. on required stay-at-home starting midnight tonight thru April 7. Grocery stores, pharmacies, hospitals, banks, and services will stay open.
No fun. | This is seriously ugly.......We need a vaccine. |
Actually things are fine today, people seem in good spirits, markets are open limited to thirty or so people at a time, kind of enjoying the down time.
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Yep, SF was a mighty nice place to be today. Mellow like it used to be before the tech craze. Still limited selections on store shelves but at least they are open. Some people were convinced this is turning into a martial law scenario but it's not like that at all. We are allowed to go out to parks for recreation and just be mindful of keeping distance from others. I think the whole point was to keep large numbers of people from breathing recirculated air indoors. Whatever the case, i do hope it works because many are taking a big financial hit because of this.
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 21:34 |
Of course he is delusional with a massive dose of arrogance. When asked to rate his response to the coronavirus, he gave, without hesitation, himself 10 out of 10.
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 20:54 |
"This is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic," Trump said at a press conference today with his coronavirus task force.
Wow. That is quite a bold-faced f*cking LIE coming from someone who less than a month ago referred to COVID-19 as a "new hoax ."
Why, I remember back in the "good old days" of less than 2 weeks ago when Trump tweeted on 03/09/20: 'The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant. Surgeon General, “The risk is low to the average American.”'
And then back in ancient times of the week before that, Trump said on March 6 that the crisis is "an unforeseen problem" that "came out of nowhere." And then on March 11 he reiterated, "We're having to fix a problem that, four weeks ago, nobody ever thought would be a problem." And on March 14, he repeated the previous reiteration, "It's something that nobody expected."
He uttered these distorted lunacies -- available for your perusal, whether on video or in Tweets -- he said them. Directly. No fake news. Trump is either lying or he is in advanced stages of dementia. The dude is sundowning. He has no grip on reality. And whether through dementia, selfish narcissistic self-preservation or sheer incompetence, he continues to put Americans in danger. And yet his loopy lemmings still blindly bleat as they leap off the cliff after him.
President Trump on Tuesday said that he realized that the coronavirus outbreak was a pandemic before the World Health Organization (WHO) labeled it as such last week.
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 15:51 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
S.F. on required stay-at-home starting midnight tonight thru April 7. Grocery stores, pharmacies, hospitals, banks, and services will stay open.
No fun. | This is seriously ugly.......We need a vaccine. | Actually things are fine today, people seem in good spirits, markets are open limited to thirty or so people at a time, kind of enjoying the down time.
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 14:37 |
npjnpj wrote:
In the US people are starting to panic buy guns in response to the virus.
Now, as a spectator sport, this sounds like fun.
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Hell yeah, its time to round up a posse and shoot that damn virus! Never mess with my sports TV!
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 14:01 |
I work at a gym, and my state has closed every gym. As of now the earliest we’d be reopening is April 7th but I’m doubtful about that date. I might end up selling some of my records to make a little extra money in the meantime.
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lazland
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 13:36 |
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Well I’m now out of work because of this. |
Extremely sorry to hear this. Our best wishes to you. As Steve asked, what do you do? Can you find something else fairly quickly?
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 13:19 |
dougmcauliffe wrote:
Well I’m now out of work because of this. |
That sucks. I'm very sorry to hear that. What was your occupation?
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 13:02 |
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Well I’m now out of work because of this. |
Sorry to hear it man. Good luck.
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 12:55 |
Well I’m now out of work because of this.
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 10:36 |
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I went to our local Sainsburys at lunchtime, I would guess it was two thirds empty - very little fruit or vegetables, hardly any meat or frozen food. I'm going to stock up on whisky and stay p*ssed till it's all over. |
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Posted: March 17 2020 at 10:13 |
In the US people are starting to panic buy guns in response to the virus.
Now, as a spectator sport, this sounds like fun.
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