Why is it with most teenagers nowadays?

James wrote: Oh and many metal fans seem to also like AC/DC, RATT, Kiss, Manowar and other such bands.  So yes, they like the glam thing...

They definitely dig that larger than life feeling with lots of delay and all. I guess they find 70s production values too humble in comparison.

I couldn't quite enjoy Colours for different reasons than the metalcore elements.  I don't really mind the screams and breakdowns but what metalcore bands I heard were pretty mediocre.  Then again, modern thrash doesn't cover itself in glory either.  I think the push to metalcore is inevitable because the only powerful alternative the true metal world has thrown up is doom metal and to expect teenage kids to listen to that is too much. 

Oh and many metal fans seem to also like AC/DC, RATT, Kiss, Manowar and other such bands.  So yes, they like the glam thing...

Tarquin Underspoon wrote:   Yeah I think we are working with several different definitions of "metalhead" in this thread....

Metalcore could prove to be a divisive force in metal bigtime. Metal largely dissociated itself from nu metal but things have not been so straightforward with metalcore.  Simply because, especially deathcore can get hard to differentiate from brutal death metal.    Yes, there are differences but at some point they are not significant enough for a lot of people to care about it.  Local gigs have only metalcore bands.  Lamb of God had a very successful show in Bangalore last month.  I think in about ten years or less time, the traditional crowd will be ruing nostalgically about what once was rather than proudly proclaiming that they would support true metal to the finish.  

rogerthat wrote: James wrote: At the metal club I frequent they seem to play Killswitch Engage's version more than Dio's now... This is sickening... That's surprising because metalheads like to call the KSE version a travesty on metal or some such thing.    Maybe the club you visit likes modern metal, the one with breakdowns and metalcore screams more.

That they do.

They always play the same tracks by those bands too.  It's usually Rage's Killing in the Name, SoaD's Chop Suey, Korn's Freak on a Leash...

The worst thing they play (apart from some hip-hop) is that horrible mix of Jay-Z and Linkin' Park.

rogerthat wrote: Tarquin Underspoon wrote:   Well, yes, if melody is "gay" to you, I would say you're not likely to expand your musical horizons too much Yeah, anything 'mellow' is so un-metal and therefore s**ks.    And as James says, they make the strangest choices when it comes to 'non-metal'.  They tend to like glam/pop metal rather than classic rock.

That's not always true... they love that Journey track...

At the metal club I frequent they seem to play Killswitch Engage's version more than Dio's now...

This is sickening...

Tarquin Underspoon wrote:   Well, yes, if melody is "gay" to you, I would say you're not likely to expand your musical horizons too much

Yeah, anything 'mellow' is so un-metal and therefore s**ks.    And as James says, they make the strangest choices when it comes to 'non-metal'.  They tend to like glam/pop metal rather than classic rock. 

But Power Metal is gay. 

I have a mate who DJs at my local metal club and he's not too bad actually.  He listens to Black Metal, Thrash, Black Sabbath, Ozzy, Pantera, Metallica, Slipknot, System of a Down, Rage Against the Machine and probably other stuff I don't know about.

I don't know if he likes power metal though.

But I also find a lot of metallers seem to like Michael Jackson... it's weird.   Maybe it's due to Steve Vai.