Prog and the younger generation

DJPuffyLemon wrote: cacho wrote: King Crimson776 wrote: There's a poll here somewhere that shows that the vast majority of people on this website are "young people". that's mainly because young people don't know THAT MUCH of Prog and this Site is very helpful. For the older guys(no offense) it's a chat room, of course, they discover new bands, etc, but they're not NEW at this. Young people mostly are new. Not to sound superior or anything, but I feel as though I know of more music than older people do, due in large part to this site, which has helped me find lots of new music. I feel as though the generation that grew up with Genesis and Yes still only listens to Genesis and Yes, and every now and then will pick up a Coldplay CD. I have no idea but my impression is that 96 percent of older prog bands snuff at new prog.

You start saying something and finish saying another thing.

First you say that you know more than older people but at the end you say the older people(mostly) don't listen to new prog.

And for what you said at the end, I would care a damn if the old one stays with the 70's and 60's, I think it's even better in some ocassions.

To not listen to new prog doesn't mean you don't know about prog, or that you know less. I'm telling this at cause of my father, which he WAS a Prog Lover in the 70's, unluckily he didn't have lot of money and didn't live in a place where all the records were there, ask Ivan(Melgar) to tell you about Peru in those times.

Also much of Prog Heads will agree that the Best Prog is in the 70's. And I wouldn't consider it close-minded, just a way to play safe. And BTW, in the 70's there's a really good bunch of bands to be discovered.


As you may notice, I completely disagree of what you said.

cacho wrote: King Crimson776 wrote: There's a poll here somewhere that shows that the vast majority of people on this website are "young people". that's mainly because young people don't know THAT MUCH of Prog and this Site is very helpful. For the older guys(no offense) it's a chat room, of course, they discover new bands, etc, but they're not NEW at this. Young people mostly are new.

Not to sound superior or anything, but I feel as though I know of more music than older people do, due in large part to this site, which has helped me find lots of new music. I feel as though the generation that grew up with Genesis and Yes still only listens to Genesis and Yes, and every now and then will pick up a Coldplay CD. I have no idea but my impression is that 96 percent of older prog bands snuff at new prog.

i think prog is kind of hip right now. its cool to know obscure, artsy bands. bands like the mars volta and radiohead, though they arnt the most progressive band ever, are becoming more and more popular. people are experimenting. bands are experimenting. i think that close to 3/4 of the people i know enjoy this style of at least semi progressive music much more than hip/hop rap etc. and i think that this is a growing trend.

so no. fear not!!!i wasnt into prog at 14. or 15. or 16. most people aren't. thats not new. but its getting to the point where that is changing.

Yes. The youth of today only knows about Lil' Wayne. Absolutely 100% of all the world prog-lovers are members of PA...

ziggystardust360 wrote: I find it funny that among teenagers prog is unknown.And I'm the only exception being 15.Many only recognize Genesis with Phil Collins,many only know Yes's ''Owner of a Lonely Heart''.They only know these great prog bands for the poppy stuff they did in the 80's and they primarily think of them as that one band from that one song.They don't know that before Phil Collins,Peter Gabriel was lead singer and making great music.And they don't know Yes was making classics like ''Roundabout''.    It seems everyone is trapped in mainstream stuff. So heres a question is progressive music dead among the youth of today?

No (at least not completely).  I am 16 and my friends and I all listen to prog in all senses of the word (noticed a lot of debates about that here).  Whether it be the classic art rock guys from the 70's to progressive metal to experimental music to jazz fusion, we enjoy it all. 

Avantgardehead wrote: So what if they just want to have fun? Not everyone has to be a music nerd and get excited every time they hear the name "Steve"... Anyway, I think this topic is rather funny because the largest age group on this site is the teens. I know plenty of kids who are 14 or so who listen to prog (most of them think they're superior to everyone, also...).

I can't understand that 'superiority' feeling . . . .Seriously. OK, i gotta agree that some songs are absolutely ridiculous, but thats no reason to downgrade the whole genre. . .

So what if they just want to have fun? Not everyone has to be a music nerd and get excited every time they hear the name "Steve"...

Anyway, I think this topic is rather funny because the largest age group on this site is the teens. I know plenty of kids who are 14 or so who listen to prog (most of them think they're superior to everyone, also...).

Hey! I'm 14! And I have a great collection of Prog.

Though, I agree with you. In my country, most of my friends hate english, since they don't understand it, and they consider it boring. And this is just English Pop, Hard Rock, Alt rock. Cause they've never heard Prog.
They stay with the Fashion Music, the music that "everyone" likes, also to show girls they listen to that music and well...blah, blah..

Also, teens, consider just music to have fun, and for them that's just Electronic, Reggaeton(the worst genre ever existed, not to be confused with Reggae), Cumbia(another disaster for the human kind), and some others.

There's really few teens like me, 13, 14, 15, 16, that have knowledge about English(I mean english cause it's really rare someone knows without being in PA, Magma, Italian Prog, etc).

And it's really not the Language problem, just cause the majority don't like/know it, they won't listen to it, because it's not mainstream or whatever. Even if I show them a Prog band from here, they'll reject it and laugh about it.

People that go with Fashion = Close Minded = main problem of teens of today that don't listen to Prog or at least 70's, 60's music.

Porcupine Tree, Tool, The Mars Volta, King Crimson, Meshuggah, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Mastodon, Opeth, Radiohead, Dream Theater, Between the Buried and Me, Behold...the Arctopus, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Oceansize, Sigur Ros, Kayo Dot, Three, Pelican, Isis, Devin Townsend, The Tangent, Ayreon, No-Man, Riverside, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

....My point is, Yes and Genesis may be dying a slow and painful death as of 2008, but prog is not. Progress or die!

Don't be silly, this web site was where I learned there is a whole new generation of prog fans, not quite like the older one...