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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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The worst culprit of a double album that should have been a single that I can think of isn't prog. It's Guns N' Roses Use Your Illusion. In a way they did keep it to single albums by releasing the two halves separately, and admittedly I've only heard the first one in full (which I've read is often seen as the lesser one). However giving into the CD age, even the single album is too long and littered with songs that really aren't up to snuff. If Axl and crew had picked the best 60 minutes from both albums (which is still long!) and condensed it onto one disc, perhaps they would've concocted a worthy follow up to Appetite For Destruction. As it stands, the whole two part album idea is certainly interesting, but there's far too much "You Ain't The First" and not nearly enough "Coma." And those tedious covers of McCartney and Dylan should've been relegated to non-album singles, or in the Dylan cover's case simply never recorded at all.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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I still disagree. Love every actual song on the second disc, not just for the storyline. I'm pretty easy to please though with Genesis. I even like Whodunnit!
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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ELP's Works Volumes 1 and 2 could probably have been condensed down to this far more palatable offering: Fanfare for the Common Man Pirates Hallowed Be Thy Name The Enemy God Dances With the Dark Spirits Food For Your Soul Bullfrog So Far to Fall Watching Over You As mentioned by other posters, what little bounty can be salvaged from the wreck that is Tales from Topographic Oceans by Yes would struggle to fill out a 40 minute vinyl album Electric The Beatles so-called White Album could be shorn of at least 11 tracks and still remain 'patchy' Cream's Wheels of Fire would have made a distinctly ho-hum single album (but you do get two compositions by the neglected genius that was Mike Taylor by way of mitigation) Both the Fragile and the Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails could have been halved and not suffered any major loss in quality (Ditto Sandinista by the Clash and Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me by the Cure) and finally, Joe's Garage Acts I -II & III by Frank Zappa proves if nothing else, that you don't need a triple garage to house an unwanted '57 King Midget Model III Edited by ExittheLemming - April 14 2020 at 02:18 |
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7411 |
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When "Tales" first came out, I'd listen to Side One, flip the disc, listen to Side Two, and then, exhausted on Yes, would move on to another selection.
I always considered that to be an ideal solution to the crashing excess of Side Three, and the excellent (although redundant) Side Four.
Alternatively, Side One and Side Four might be nice. Trying to edit Tales would be a lifetime task. |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20409 |
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BTW, I disagree with the person who mentionned SM's Third album. All tracks are very different but essential, but yeah, some could use some time trimmings, but never enough to achieve the one-disc duration
Those should be cut to a zero-disc affair, juste like anything to do with Stolt. ![]() ![]() ![]()
You haven't got major intrumental passages on The Lamb, because it's soooooooooo bloody wordy. Sure the easiest time-cut is Silent Sorrows to operate, but Waiting Room is amazing and shows a facet of the band un Storyline considerations set aside, very few tracks on the second disc are actually good. Only the excellent Lamia and Slipperman, with the afore-mentionned Waiting Room are indispensible (and not just IMHO)... Most of the side 4 is limit even annoying. FTM, if it's possible to compile one really good Genesis album worthy of the rest of the 70 - 77 albums, with the non-selected ones you can make their weakest from 69 - 80 period. OK, I'm exagerating slightly on the last point, but you get the idea
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Tendiwa ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 14 2020 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 109 |
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Can - Tago Mago.
The first LP is fantastic, but sides 3 and 4 are mostly free improvisation and noises.
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I agree with the white album and snow but not so much Physical Graffiti. Really no weak material on that Zeppelin album imo. With tales it's really parts that sort of drag on a bit. I really like the ancient though which many people can't appreciate or just don't like it for whateve reason. Snow definitely should have been a single. Even the flower kings weren't always that good with doubles. Double albums are tricky and most of the time they don't work all the way through.
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Yes ... Tales Soft Machine - Third Zappa - Joe's Garage The Beatles - White Album Cardiacs - Sing to God Spock's Beard - Snow Ayreon - The Source Bryan Beller - Scenes from the Flood Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti Edited by Grumpyprogfan - April 14 2020 at 05:48 |
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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I disagree with Lamb. If you cut out all the noodly instrumental bits you'd still have 3 sides worth of essential material. At that point either cut a neat engraving on side 4 or fill out the second disc with leftover noodling, which they did. Besides, I like the noodling! It's pleasant! lol
Honestly with most of the big double albums I see no reason to cut them down. They're often far more interesting as doubles, even if they're imperfect.
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Probably most Neal Morse albums
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 3926 |
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Hmm.. ok, maybe i'd put Pirates on side 2 rather than have a blank side but the rest of the album is not for me
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20409 |
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There is very little double studio albums that deserves the double disc treatment. The first exception would be Electric Ladyland, and maybe Quadrophenia second. Four Letter Monday Afternoon, London Calling, Chicago Transit Authority and the Hair OST are also alongst the ones that should remain double |
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GoliathTMV ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2020 Location: The Comatorium Status: Offline Points: 137 |
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You dissing C'est La Vie and Pirates?
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GoliathTMV ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2020 Location: The Comatorium Status: Offline Points: 137 |
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I meant a photo shoot but that's good too lol
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 3926 |
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Works by ELP could have been edited down to a one-sided 12'' 45 single of the extended 'Fanfare'... ;)
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 3926 |
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Ive got my air rifle ready and the album propped up amongst the rhubarb....
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GoliathTMV ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2020 Location: The Comatorium Status: Offline Points: 137 |
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The only time it's not a good excuse is if you want to shoot the cover of Love Beach.
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"ELP did it" is not a good reason for anything
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