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The worst culprit of a double album that should have been a single that I can think of isn't prog. It's Guns N' Roses Use Your Illusion. In a way they did keep it to single albums by releasing the two halves separately, and admittedly I've only heard the first one in full (which I've read is often seen as the lesser one). However giving into the CD age, even the single album is too long and littered with songs that really aren't up to snuff. If Axl and crew had picked the best 60 minutes from both albums (which is still long!) and condensed it onto one disc, perhaps they would've concocted a worthy follow up to Appetite For Destruction. As it stands, the whole two part album idea is certainly interesting, but there's far too much "You Ain't The First" and not nearly enough "Coma." And those tedious covers of McCartney and Dylan should've been relegated to non-album singles, or in the Dylan cover's case simply never recorded at all.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

BTW, I disagree with the person who mentionned SM's Third album. All tracks are very different but essential, but yeah, some could use some time trimmings, but never enough to achieve the one-disc duration

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Probably most Neal Morse albums
 

Those should be cut to a zero-disc affair, juste like anything to do with Stolt.TongueBig smileLOL

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

I disagree with Lamb. If you cut out all the noodly instrumental bits you'd still have 3 sides worth of essential material. At that point either cut a neat engraving on side 4 or fill out the second disc with leftover noodling, which they did. Besides, I like the noodling! It's pleasant! lol
Honestly with most of the big double albums I see no reason to cut them down. They're often far more interesting as doubles, even if they're imperfect. 


You haven't got major intrumental passages on The Lamb, because it's soooooooooo bloody wordy. Sure the easiest time-cut is Silent Sorrows to operate, but Waiting Room is amazing and shows a facet of the band unseenheard elsewhere....
Storyline considerations set aside, very few tracks on the second disc are actually good. Only the excellent Lamia and Slipperman, with the afore-mentionned Waiting Room are indispensible (and not just IMHO)... Most of the side 4 is limit even annoying. FTM, if it's possible to compile one really good Genesis album worthy of the rest of the 70 - 77 albums, with the non-selected ones you can make their weakest from 69 - 80 period. OK, I'm exagerating slightly on the last point, but you get the ideaLOL

I still disagree. Love every actual song on the second disc, not just for the storyline. I'm pretty easy to please though with Genesis. I even like Whodunnit!
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ELP's Works Volumes 1 and 2 could probably have been condensed down to this far more palatable offering:

Fanfare for the Common Man
Pirates
Hallowed Be Thy Name
The Enemy God Dances With the Dark Spirits
Food For Your Soul
Bullfrog
So Far to Fall
Watching Over You

As mentioned by other posters, what little bounty can be salvaged from the wreck that is Tales from Topographic Oceans by Yes would struggle to fill out a 40 minute vinyl album

Electric Landlady Ladyland by Jimi Hendrix could have used a 'bouncer' of sorts i.e. someone with the cohones to eject the liggers, pushers, hangers on and starf.u.ckers from the premises

The Beatles so-called White Album could be shorn of at least 11 tracks and still remain 'patchy'

Cream's Wheels of Fire would have made a distinctly ho-hum single album (but you do get two compositions by the neglected genius that was Mike Taylor by way of mitigation)

Both the Fragile and the Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails could have been halved and not suffered any major loss in quality (Ditto Sandinista by the Clash and Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me by the Cure)

and finally, Joe's Garage Acts I -II & III by Frank Zappa proves if nothing else, that you don't need a triple garage to house an unwanted '57 King Midget Model III






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When "Tales" first came out, I'd listen to Side One, flip the disc, listen to Side Two, and then, exhausted on Yes, would move on to another selection.  

I always considered that to be an ideal solution to the crashing excess of Side Three, and the excellent (although redundant) Side Four.  

Alternatively, Side One and Side Four might be nice.  Trying to edit Tales would be a lifetime task.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.


There is very little double studio albums (not half-live or double live) that deserves the double disc treatment.

The first exception would be Electric Ladyland, and maybe Quadrophenia second.HugStar

Four Letter Monday Afternoon, ThirdLondon Calling, Chicago Transit Authority  and the Hair OST are also amongst the ones that should remain doubleClap








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BTW, I disagree with the person who mentionned SM's Third album. All tracks are very different but essential, but yeah, some could use some time trimmings, but never enough to achieve the one-disc duration

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Probably most Neal Morse albums
 

Those should be cut to a zero-disc affair, juste like anything to do with Stolt.TongueBig smileLOL

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

I disagree with Lamb. If you cut out all the noodly instrumental bits you'd still have 3 sides worth of essential material. At that point either cut a neat engraving on side 4 or fill out the second disc with leftover noodling, which they did. Besides, I like the noodling! It's pleasant! lol
Honestly with most of the big double albums I see no reason to cut them down. They're often far more interesting as doubles, even if they're imperfect. 


You haven't got major intrumental passages on The Lamb, because it's soooooooooo bloody wordy. Sure the easiest time-cut is Silent Sorrows to operate, but Waiting Room is amazing and shows a facet of the band unseenheard elsewhere....
Storyline considerations set aside, very few tracks on the second disc are actually good. Only the excellent Lamia and Slipperman, with the afore-mentionned Waiting Room are indispensible (and not just IMHO)... Most of the side 4 is limit even annoying. FTM, if it's possible to compile one really good Genesis album worthy of the rest of the 70 - 77 albums, with the non-selected ones you can make their weakest from 69 - 80 period. OK, I'm exagerating slightly on the last point, but you get the ideaLOL


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Can - Tago Mago.

The first LP is fantastic, but sides 3 and 4 are mostly free improvisation and noises.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. A load of needless noodling about on that double album. One album of solid stuff.
Agree. Let me add...
Yes ... Tales
Soft Machine - Third
Zappa - Joe's Garage
The Beatles - White Album
Cardiacs - Sing for God
Spock's Beard - Snow
Ayreon - The Source
Bryan Beller - Scenes from the Flood
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti







I agree with the white album and snow but not so much Physical Graffiti. Really no weak material on that Zeppelin album imo. With tales it's really parts that sort of drag on a bit. I really like the ancient though which many people can't appreciate or just don't like it for whateve reason. Snow definitely should have been a single. Even the flower kings weren't always that good with doubles. Double albums are tricky and most of the time they don't work all the way through.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. A load of needless noodling about on that double album. One album of solid stuff.
Agree. Let me add...
Yes ... Tales
Soft Machine - Third
Zappa - Joe's Garage
The Beatles - White Album
Cardiacs - Sing to God
Spock's Beard - Snow
Ayreon - The Source
Bryan Beller - Scenes from the Flood
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti





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I disagree with Lamb. If you cut out all the noodly instrumental bits you'd still have 3 sides worth of essential material. At that point either cut a neat engraving on side 4 or fill out the second disc with leftover noodling, which they did. Besides, I like the noodling! It's pleasant! lol

Honestly with most of the big double albums I see no reason to cut them down. They're often far more interesting as doubles, even if they're imperfect. 


Edited by Sacro_Porgo - April 13 2020 at 18:04
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Probably most Neal Morse albums
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Originally posted by GoliathTMV GoliathTMV wrote:

You dissing C'est La Vie and Pirates?
 

Hmm.. ok, maybe i'd put Pirates on side 2 rather than have a blank side but the rest of the album is not for meWink

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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.


There is very little double studio albums that deserves the double disc treatment.

The first exception would be Electric Ladyland, and maybe Quadrophenia second.

Four Letter Monday Afternoon, London Calling, Chicago Transit Authority  and the Hair OST are also alongst the ones that should remain double





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You dissing C'est La Vie and Pirates?
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I meant a photo shoot but that's good too lol LOL
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Works by ELP could have been edited down to a one-sided 12'' 45 single of the extended 'Fanfare'... ;)

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Originally posted by GoliathTMV GoliathTMV wrote:

The only time it's not a good excuse is if you want to shoot the cover of Love Beach. LOL
 
Ive got my air rifle ready and the album propped up amongst the rhubarb....

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The only time it's not a good excuse is if you want to shoot the cover of Love Beach. LOL
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"ELP did it" is not a good reason for anything LOLWink
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