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I think we need to cut spending before we lower taxes. Fair and simple as that. First, wasteful overseas military spending.
Yes, well, you think a lot of things.
How are you going to convince the voters supply-side economics will work? They watch too much MSNBC to get the point. Maybe an enthusiastic person like you can entertain them with your fantastic intellectual abilities.
I hope so. I was just offered a job at a conservative think tank in DC, so I am thrilled about that. Maybe I'll actually make a difference.
Work on the drastic cut in military budget and non interventionist foreign policy and I'll be willing to meet you halfway about taxes ok?
Now even in Canada we are having "occupy" rallies. I agree that in america all three party movements are far too extreme or not extreme enough. However in Canada we have 3-5 major politcal parties and it is unneccarry. I agree that in america, the top 1% pretty much runs the show and that a more socialist system would be a breath of fresh air for "the greatest country in the world." But I see the opposition too large. And not to stereotype, but those who are against the "occupy" movements are usually the ones that are most willing to get violent. So yes it is a good idea but its the opposition is just too large.
There's something funny about America. The "socialism" that would help this country usually does not get passed, but we get the "socialism" that no one except the elite class wants. It's freakin' ridiculous.
Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest" THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
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Posted: October 17 2011 at 22:58
progistoomainstream wrote:
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Now even in Canada we are having "occupy" rallies. I agree that in america all three party movements are far too extreme or not extreme enough. However in Canada we have 3-5 major politcal parties and it is unneccarry. I agree that in america, the top 1% pretty much runs the show and that a more socialist system would be a breath of fresh air for "the greatest country in the world." But I see the opposition too large. And not to stereotype, but those who are against the "occupy" movements are usually the ones that are most willing to get violent. So yes it is a good idea but its the opposition is just too large.
That last stereotype was horrible. I'll throw you another one: I used to favor these kind of things, and many many years ago when I was an actual communist I was also kind of a bum. Now I dislike all this sh*t because I know crying and yelling doesn't take you anywhere, only working does. And none can (or should) guarantee that that "anywhere" you want to get is exactly like you dreamed of.
In my FB there's a few idiots (not related to PA) who continuously put links and support comments to Occupy yet I know them: most of them are good-for-nothings who dream of a perfect world and would love a totalitarianism that guarantees their right to live while not doing sh*t. There you go, another nice generalization.
When having a sense of entitlement starts to become part of the spirit of the youth of a nation, that nation is certainly going down.
And no, no socialism would be good. And there's only ONE kind of socialism.
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Posted: October 17 2011 at 22:46
progistoomainstream wrote:
Now even in Canada we are having "occupy" rallies. I agree that in america all three party movements are far too extreme or not extreme enough. However in Canada we have 3-5 major politcal parties and it is unneccarry. I agree that in america, the top 1% pretty much runs the show and that a more socialist system would be a breath of fresh air for "the greatest country in the world." But I see the opposition too large. And not to stereotype, but those who are against the "occupy" movements are usually the ones that are most willing to get violent. So yes it is a good idea but its the opposition is just too large.
There's something funny about America. The "socialism" that would help this country usually does not get passed, but we get the "socialism" that no one except the elite class wants. It's freakin' ridiculous.
Now even in Canada we are having "occupy" rallies. I agree that in america all three party movements are far too extreme or not extreme enough. However in Canada we have 3-5 major politcal parties and it is unneccarry. I agree that in america, the top 1% pretty much runs the show and that a more socialist system would be a breath of fresh air for "the greatest country in the world." But I see the opposition too large. And not to stereotype, but those who are against the "occupy" movements are usually the ones that are most willing to get violent. So yes it is a good idea but its the opposition is just too large.
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Posted: October 17 2011 at 21:45
thellama73 wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
I think we need to cut spending before we lower taxes. Fair and simple as that. First, wasteful overseas military spending.
Yes, well, you think a lot of things.
How are you going to convince the voters supply-side economics will work? They watch too much MSNBC to get the point. Maybe an enthusiastic person like you can entertain them with your fantastic intellectual abilities.
I hope so. I was just offered a job at a conservative think tank in DC, so I am thrilled about that. Maybe I'll actually make a difference.
There's often a problem with that though. There's not as much freedom in these think tanks as there is in academia. I learned from first-hand experiences.
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Posted: October 17 2011 at 21:43
King of Loss wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
I think we need to cut spending before we lower taxes. Fair and simple as that. First, wasteful overseas military spending.
Yes, well, you think a lot of things.
How are you going to convince the voters supply-side economics will work? They watch too much MSNBC to get the point. Maybe an enthusiastic person like you can entertain them with your fantastic intellectual abilities.
I hope so. I was just offered a job at a conservative think tank in DC, so I am thrilled about that. Maybe I'll actually make a difference.
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Posted: October 17 2011 at 21:11
thellama73 wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
I think we need to cut spending before we lower taxes. Fair and simple as that. First, wasteful overseas military spending.
Yes, well, you think a lot of things.
How are you going to convince the voters supply-side economics will work? They watch too much MSNBC to get the point. Maybe an enthusiastic person like you can entertain them with your fantastic intellectual abilities.
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Posted: October 17 2011 at 21:03
thellama73 wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
*sigh*
I think the entire world is going to go through Stagflation for at least the next couple of years.
Even supply-side might not save this entire situation.
Well of course not, when has it ever saved anything?
List of things supply side economics has saved: The Day The Whales The Rainforest Me a seat at the opera Ronald Reagan's presidency A penny earned For its retirement The souls of thousands Ayn Rand devotees South Korea
I think we need to cut spending before we lower taxes. Fair and simple as that. First, wasteful overseas military spending.
I think the entire world is going to go through Stagflation for at least the next couple of years.
Even supply-side might not save this entire situation.
Well of course not, when has it ever saved anything?
List of things supply side economics has saved: The Day The Whales The Rainforest Me a seat at the opera Ronald Reagan's presidency A penny earned For its retirement The souls of thousands Ayn Rand devotees South Korea
Glad you are using some of the llama humor, because I really am not in a serious mood right now
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Posted: October 17 2011 at 20:48
JJLehto wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
*sigh*
I think the entire world is going to go through Stagflation for at least the next couple of years.
Even supply-side might not save this entire situation.
Well of course not, when has it ever saved anything?
List of things supply side economics has saved: The Day The Whales The Rainforest Me a seat at the opera Ronald Reagan's presidency A penny earned For its retirement The souls of thousands Ayn Rand devotees South Korea
I think the entire world is going to go through Stagflation for at least the next couple of years.
Even supply-side might not save this entire situation.
Well of course not, when has it ever saved anything?
Sorry to start derailing my own thread but at page 5 I'm assuming it's long derailed anyway. Guess I should read all these responses, but this guy keeps pissing me off. All these days later, still all the FB statuses about solidarity and anarchist punk songs....sheesh give it a rest. He's a bum anyway, complains but never votes, yaps and yaps but lives off government checks (and I have no problem saying that because he really doesn't do sh*t ever...plays the "starving artist" deal but never worked a day in his life) that's the kind of person that will ruin this thing.
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