Angel (US Symphonic/Crossover)

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   Xover has been paged... and will take a looksie at it.  If it fits ...it's in... if not... we'll toss it in the wastecan of PA's or pass it to the team we feel it fits if it is not Xover.  (if symphonic... we won't bother Olav )

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micky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838	Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:12
	Xover has been paged... and will take a looksie at it. If it fits ...it's in... if not... we'll toss it in the wastecan of PA's or pass it to the team we feel it fits if it is not Xover. (if symphonic... we won't bother Olav )
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AmericanProgster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Manassas, VA Status: Offline Points: 228	Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:31
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Raff Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429	Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:24
	The Crossover team will be informed of your suggestion. However, there is no guarantee that they will be accepted. In fact, unlike some people seem to think here, Xover is considered a FULLY prog genre, and if the band don't qualify for inclusion there, the only other solution is to suggest inclusion in Prog-Related to the Admin Team.

AmericanProgster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Manassas, VA Status: Offline Points: 228	Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:17
	Oh I know, but they did incorporate symphonic sounds in their music and wasn't sure if I should've mentioned that so I did just to cover all my bases. But definitely should be classified as Crossover because of those symphonic tendencies. In my opinion Angel's music cannot be so easily classified as just "glam" or just "hard rock" unless you purposely ignore the bulk of their material and just listen their more simple songs, which even those still have certain complexities that their peers (such as The Sweet or Europe) wouldn't even dare go into. Edited by AmericanProgster - December 30 2008 at 14:18

Windhawk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401	Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:08
	Well, at least it seems quite clear that Symphonic is permanently out of the question for these guys chuckles Haven't listened to the band in ages myself, so can't really say anything about how worthy or not they are. If someone from Crossover would like to take a listen, PM me if you need samples.
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rushfan4 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66588	Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:20
	I'm only familiar with some Greg Giuffria solo and House of Lords, but here is a link to Wikipedia entry for Angel, and lo and behold progressive rock is listed as one of their genres along with glam rock and hard rock. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(band) As always, I realize that a definition from another site means little to most here at PA and absolutely nothing to Ivan, but I just found it interesting that elsewhere does mention progressive rock as one of their genres.


AmericanProgster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Manassas, VA Status: Offline Points: 228	Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:18
	"Hi American Progster and welcome. Sorry but I have to be honest in this case, even if it sounds harsh. Angel is a Glam - Hard Rock band with IMHO absolutely no connection with Prog or even Prog Related, sounds like The Sweet meets Europe. They don't have a chance in Symphonic and if I'm not wrong, not even in Prog Related. Had to be absolutely honest. Iván" So the extensive use of the Moog and Mellotron (the same way that other symphonic bands, who will remain nameless, use them) plus the odd time signatures means absolutely nothing? Look I'm not saying they're the most complex US prog band, they're far from it, but they DID play prog. Even if its a small amount of prog, then according to PA's own definitions of Prog Related or Crossover, its still enough to include bands such as Angel who often incorporated prog rock into their music. In Angel's defense listen to the following songs: The Tower Long Time Mariner Sunday Morning The Fortune Cast the First Stone Just a Dream Just to name a few of their proggiest tracks. Edited by AmericanProgster - December 30 2008 at 13:21

AmericanProgster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Manassas, VA Status: Offline Points: 228	Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:12
	Then no offense, but you guys need to actually listen to some of their stuff, particularly their first and second albums. Sure they played hard rock but to say that there is no prog in it is just plain ignorant. P.S. What is Soft Hard Rock?

UMUR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3073	Posted: December 30 2008 at 11:20
	I have to agree with Ivan here. Glam rock/ soft hard rock.

Ivan_Melgar_M Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557	Posted: December 30 2008 at 11:10
	Hi American Progster and welcome. Sorry but I have to be honest in this case, even if it sounds harsh. Angel is a Glam - Hard Rock band with IMHO absolutely no connection with Prog or even Prog Related, sounds like The Sweet meets Europe. They don't have a chance in Symphonic and if I'm not wrong, not even in Prog Related. Had to be absolutely honest. Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - December 30 2008 at 11:29


UMUR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3073	Posted: December 30 2008 at 06:01
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AmericanProgster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Manassas, VA Status: Offline Points: 228	Posted: December 30 2008 at 04:57
	Here's one that should've been on PA before Aviary, Queen, or Styx. Angel played a fast, hard driven symphonic rock. Albums and samples are as follows: Angel - 1975 http://www.amazon.com/Angel/dp/B000001DU7/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1230633889&sr=1-2 Helluva Band - 1976 http://www.amazon.com/Helluva-Band-Angel/dp/B000001DU8/ref=pd_sim_m_12 On Earth as it is in Heaven - 1977 http://cdbaby.com/cd/angelrocks White Hot - 1977 http://www.amazon.com/White-Hot-Angel/dp/B000001DUA/ref=pd_sim_m_3 Sinful - 1979 http://www.amazon.com/Sinful-Angel/dp/B000BQU5A8/ref=pd_sim_m_1 In the Beginning - 2000 Angel's Official Website/MySpace http://www.myspace.com/AngelOfficialSite Angel Bio Part 1: http://www.angelrocks.com/bio/index.html Angel Bio Part 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(band)#Discography