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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 22:21 |
stonebeard wrote:
I think the real crime is Marillion's video for the song, as well as "Lavender." |
I liked the video for Lavender. The video for Assassing, though... that's a different story.
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 17:19 |
stonebeard wrote:
How many times has this thread been revived? |
Many too many
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fogwalker
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 17:18 |
I think it's the only Marillion song I ever, ever liked. All the rest I'd heard until then sounded like a Genesis tribute band, and not a particularly good one at that, and I don't really like Genesis much anyway.....
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 07:19 |
The Miracle wrote:
Any punk song is worse
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Oh don't be so silly.
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stonebeard
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 07:17 |
I think the real crime is Marillion's video for the song, as well as "Lavender."
Ugh.
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Kid-A
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 07:13 |
uhhh.. if you think its the worst song ever, you can't have heard very many songs
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Wilcey
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 06:51 |
I think the perceived problem with Kayleigh lies not with the song, but with the overplaying...........
Having said that, I think several hundred people did themselves SERIOUS vocal damage singing it when I saw Fish at a couple of the "return to Childhood" gigs last year!!!!
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 06:38 |
Flip_Stone wrote:
I agree somewhat, though I wouldn't call that song the worst ever. There are plenty of songs in existence that are worst. But yeah, when listening to Misplaced Childhood, I've always cringed at the song (and even Lavender) as being very pop and out of place compare to the songs before and after them on the album.
Kayleigh just screams out "Yeah, we put this on the album because the record company demanded that we have a hit single. Sorry chaps, we know it's overtly pop, but we hope you like it anyway". And many people do, as shown here on this site. I'm sure even the band came to liking it, especially when the video got them attention and exposure on America's MTV video channel, and put more money in their pockets...
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Kayleigh was never contrived to be a hit single, nor was any of the album for that matter. In fact it was written as a screw you to their record company, they just decided to do a continuous 45 minutes epic, with no breaks (hence the original track titles of Misplaced Childhood Part 1 and Misplaced Childhood Part 2). When EMI heard the record they didn't think any of it was single worthy (they were more interested in Lady Nina as a single) but they went ahead with it anyway and the rest is history. Kayleigh is the track that really grabbed my attention when I first listened to Misplaced Childhood (though the rest is great too) and so it will always be special (eevn though it's overplayed). It's certainly not worse than 3 of the tracks from side 2, Waterhole (Expresso Bongo), Lords of the Backstage or White Feather.
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prog4evr
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 01:53 |
sleeper wrote:
How can you skip Kayleigh, its the start of the story! |
Sorry to be late on this thread - didn't see it before. That is so true. When one realizes that Misplaced Childhood is actually one song (or one suite of songs embroidered together - has to split side A and side B on the original vinyl though), you cannot just skip the song and 'get the point' of the album. So many others have answered positive or negative, depending on their point-of-view. It boils down to: Is MC a cohesive unitary piece, or just a jumble of nice songs woven together nicely? Your answer to that answers your question about 'Kayleigh.'
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sbrushfan
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 01:38 |
Wow...most of you bag on it. It's not TOTAL sh*t. I downloaded it yesterday, along with BEAUTIFUL, HARD AS LOVE and WHO WE ARE. I happen to (really) enjoy what I've heard thus far. IMO, Kayleigh is a (pardon the pun) beautiful ballad.
Face it, kiddies...having a ballad or two on your records does NOT a bad record make. It's only when you begin to water down your records with poor writing and production that the records begin to suck. My opinion; nothing more or less.
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 00:09 |
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 23:52 |
sleeper wrote:
Actualy I think it fits in perfectly on Misplaced Childhood |
I completely agree. That album is an absolute stinker.
I remember buying the vinyl when I was Interrailing in England (when I
ended up staying with IQ, but that's another story) and not being able
to listen to it for days. I was so excited. Here was a band I had been
following from their very first single, that I had queued a week for
tickets to see, that I had traveled to Denmark to see again. A band
whose two first albums (and singles and 12-inchers and picture disks
and bootlegs) I had loved deeply and evangelized for madly (I had
turned pretty much half of my 10th grade boarding school into Marillion
heads over the course of the previous fall), and now they'd turned in
an epic to rival their own Grendel (a song we dug so much that we named
our Prog fanzine for it).
Maybe it was because my expectations were so high, or maybe it was
because it really was a load of fairly pedestrian Pop-Rock songs
sellotaped together to make a fake epic (when I said that to Fish in an
interview later that fall, he raised his hand as if to strike me - no
joke). But I was not alone in thinking so, most of my Proghead friends
were equally underwhelmed and/or appalled. That Kayleigh later became a
hit single only proved what we'd been saying all along.
Misplaced Childhood ("Misplaced Brain, more like" quipped IQ's roadie)
retoractively runied Marillion for me. It was as if in seeing through
that album, I saw the many flaws in the earlier works that I had
ignored. I would occasionally listen to Script and Fugazi and even
bought the remasters, but the magic was gone. Fish solo - eh. Hogarth
Marillion - eh. Yet I keep trying. I check out each new release from
both branches because maybe, just maybe something there will spark that
magic again.
Well, once it has. On the Fugazi remaster; Cinderella Search. I had
completely forgotten about that song, and it really hit home (lisetning
to it now, actually - it's not bad).
Maybe I'll give MC one more shot. It's been at least half a decade since I last did.
Welcome back to the circus. Nevertheless...
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Teaflax
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 23:31 |
Hey, come on. It's better than Lavender.
In the same way that biting your tongue is better than having your tongue bitten by someone else.
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 23:15 |
What a negative thread title! Kayleigh is a great song and certainly brought MARILLION more to the attention of the listening public, than any other of their songs.
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stonebeard
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 22:38 |
How many times has this thread been revived?
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progadicto
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 20:59 |
Another purist?? Man, KAYLEIGH is a great song... popish but totally enjoyable specially the lyrics... Sometimes the simplicity takes us to the perfection...
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Posted: May 08 2006 at 17:31 |
20 years ago i used to hear this song on a holiday in Scotland several times a day. Still love it.
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Posted: May 08 2006 at 17:06 |
Flip_Stone wrote:
It's not a bad song in and of itself, but it is poor and poppy when you stick it next to other Marillion songs from that time period. It's always sounded out of place on Misplaced Childhood, and a sad compromise by the band to appease the record company's demand for a hit single.
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Actualy I think it fits in perfectly on Misplaced Childhood, does a good job of setting the scene for the rest of the album.
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: May 08 2006 at 16:50 |
It's not a bad song in and of itself, but it is poor and poppy when you stick it next to other Marillion songs from that time period. It's always sounded out of place on Misplaced Childhood, and a sad compromise by the band to appease the record company's demand for a hit single.
Edited by Flip_Stone - May 08 2006 at 16:51
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Posted: May 07 2006 at 23:16 |
eddietrooper wrote:
I really enjoy listening to Marillion, specially Fish era. But there's one song I can't stand: "Kayleigh". When I discovered that this was their biggest hit I couldn't believe it. I really like Misplaced Childhood, but I usually skip this track. For me it's their worst song. My favourite album is "Fugazi".
Any comments? |
My daughter's name is Kayleigh. Enough said.
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