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Blacksword
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Posted: September 28 2004 at 10:57 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
There are precious few in this male-dominated genre! Kate Bush or Annie Haslam gets the nod....
My fave overall (non-prog) female vox?
Annie Lennox
Maddy Prior
Kate Rusby
Karen Matheson
But Peter, you ask, who are the last two?
Peasants!
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Glad someone mentioned Karen Matheson Lovely voice. I had forgotten about Cappercaile. Time to dig out 'Secret People' I think.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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harry's toenail
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Posted: September 28 2004 at 09:48 |
I'd like to put in Barbara Gaskin, Ann Rosenthal and Amanda Parsons for a mention [Hatfield & the North]. I'm also pretty fond of Catherine Ribeiro's singing, though I could see how she wouldn't be to everyone's taste. And Ellen Meyer from Tomorrow's Gift!
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: September 28 2004 at 05:04 |
I'm still sticking with Kate, but one name is sadly lacking in the discussion so far, because the band never got the international acclaim they deserved. I'm talking about Jerney Kaagman of Dutch legends Earth and Fire.
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 17:35 |
I prefer to be known as a 21st Century Schizoid Man!
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Easy Livin
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 14:54 |
Richard, Dick.
It was once suggested in another thread that you were one and the same person. I guess you've just put that theory to rest.
Unless of course you're a raging Schizophrenic!
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Dick Heath
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Jazz-Rock Specialist
Joined: April 19 2004
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 12:52 |
richardh wrote:
Maddy Prior actually toured with Mike Oldfield.Maybe she is folk primarily but she did more than just make a session appearance on an Oldfield album. I never realised my innocent comment would cause such a problem.
Dare I say that Toyah Wilcox should also be included as she is married to a prog rocker!
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No problem rather a plead not to get carried away including people who are better known for another musical genre. Strangely enough (no I lie, differently not in this case) Toyah is also on that Stranglers & Friends album - but thank goodness not singing with her hubby (and I use the word 'singing' loosely here).
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richardh
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 11:14 |
Maddy Prior actually toured with Mike Oldfield.Maybe she is folk primarily but she did more than just make a session appearance on an Oldfield album. I never realised my innocent comment would cause such a problem.
Dare I say that Toyah Wilcox should also be included as she is married to a prog rocker!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 06:22 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
richardh wrote:
Maddy Prior sung with Mike Oldfield's band so she could be brought under the category of Prog. |
On that basis everybody who came in contact with prog is prog - then let's go daft: punk band Stranglers had Fripp, Hammill and Hillage front them once, when Hugh Cornwall was in jail, ergo The Stranglers are Prog and Punk and ????? No I don't think so.
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Come on Dick.Maddy Prior sang on a prog album didn't she?
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I think you miss my point. Maddy Prior is an out and out Anglo Scot folk singer, primarily. I've seen her several times, and there no obvious prog is in her repertoise. Was Sandy Denny a heavy rock singer because she sang on a Led Zep album - no she was an Anglo Scott folk singer too.
Check Stranglers & friend's Live album for contributions from Fripp, Hillage and Hammill, do punk numbers (it is a most enjoyable album in part, because of the mixture of musical styles). Most certainly I wouldn't accuse Fripp and Hillage of being punk - Hammill has had his moments though, perhaps explaining Johnny Rotten's liking for Van Der Graaf Generator.
I think it is odd to place a musician under the heading of 'Prog', because they guested or sessioned on a prog album or two, while the majority of thier fans know he/she for a specific type of music. Keith Tippett is one of Britain's most important free jazz musicians, but played with Krimson. John Surman, arguably the greatest jazz saxophonist to come out of the UK in 30 years, has been heard as a session player for Nice's recordings. And so.
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richardh
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 02:24 |
The Stranglers were 'punk prog'.Everyone knows that!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: September 26 2004 at 18:58 |
Dick Heath wrote:
richardh wrote:
Maddy Prior sung with Mike Oldfield's band so she could be brought under the category of Prog. |
On that basis everybody who came in contact with prog is prog - then let's go daft: punk band Stranglers had Fripp, Hammill and Hillage front them once, when Hugh Cornwall was in jail, ergo The Stranglers are Prog and Punk and ????? No I don't think so.
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Come on Dick.Maddy Prior sang on a prog album didnt she?
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 26 2004 at 17:35 |
richardh wrote:
Maddy Prior sung with Mike Oldfield's band so she could be brought under the category of Prog. |
On that basis everybody who came in contact with prog is prog - then
let's go daft: punk band Stranglers had Fripp, Hammill and Hillage
front them once, when Hugh Cornwall was in jail, ergo The Stranglers are Prog and Punk and ????? No I don't think so.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 26 2004 at 17:29 |
lucas wrote:
Agnes Buen Garnas
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Agnes Buen Garnas (with Jan Garbarek) does a masterful recording with Rosensfole (ECM)
And for the more mature listener:
Annette Peacock, even with a limited vocal range, breathes sex on Bill Bruford's Feels Good To Me, making it my all time favourite jazz rock album. And check out Sidsel Endresen singer with nu.fusionist Bugge Wesseltoft, for Scandanavian vocal sexiness as it is happening right now.
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Peter
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Posted: September 26 2004 at 16:47 |
^ Please don't do so, though.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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richardh
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Posted: September 26 2004 at 16:18 |
Maddy Prior sung with Mike Oldfield's band so she could be brought under the category of Prog.
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Peter
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Posted: September 26 2004 at 15:39 |
^ Could be fun -- apart from my size 12 two left feet....
And you know what they say, girls: big feet = .....
BIG SHOES!
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: September 25 2004 at 18:47 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
^ Peasant!
They are active in traditional/Celtic music. Kate Rusby is a solo act -- lovely, emotive voice, beautiful accent.
Karen Matheson sings for Scottish Celtic act Capercaillie -- great voice, & a stunner too!
Lots of great female vox in that field. I'm at least as big a fan of "trad" as I am of prog (200+ CDs). Woke up to the dulcet strains of fair Kate today -- my wife's a big fan too.
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I'd stop the bugger from singing outside your window of a morning, surprised your wife puts up with it!
Maybe you could start a Morris Dancing revival
With a Hey and a Ho and a Hey nonny-nonny!
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Prog_Bassist
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Joined: August 29 2004
Location: Canada
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Posted: September 25 2004 at 18:41 |
Jon Anderson
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Peter
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Posted: September 25 2004 at 10:22 |
^ Peasant!
They are active in traditional/Celtic music. Kate Rusby is a solo act -- lovely, emotive voice, beautiful accent.
Karen Matheson sings for Scottish Celtic act Capercaillie -- great voice, & a stunner too!
Lots of great female vox in that field. I'm at least as big a fan of "trad" as I am of prog (200+ CDs). Woke up to the dulcet strains of fair Kate today -- my wife's a big fan too.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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lucas
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Posted: September 25 2004 at 06:20 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
There are precious few in this male-dominated genre! Kate Bush or Annie Haslam gets the nod....
My fave overall (non-prog) female vox?
Annie Lennox
Maddy Prior
Kate Rusby
Karen Matheson
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But Peter, who are the last two?
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Easy Livin
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Joined: February 21 2004
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Posted: September 25 2004 at 06:07 |
Annie Haslam for me, Maani summed up my reasons nicely.
Sonja Kristina a very close second though, very distinctive and atmospheric.
A couple of non prog ones - Karen Carpenter, now what could she have done with a good prog song? "Goodbye to love" gave some indication, but she had a wonderful voice. She started off singing in a higher key, it was only when it was suggested in the studio that she try deeper tones that the magic of her voice appeared.
Emmylou Harris has a very emotional voice. Her "Wrecking Ball" album produced by Danny Lannois is great, and a million miles from her country roots.
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