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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Depends. If you listen to music in stereo there is not much difference. If you listen to DVD audio with 5.1 mixes, maybe.

Subs may help if you're watching action movies and stuff is getting blown up. But to hear that in all its glory you need a surround sound setup.
Sorry, can't agree with these statements. I can hear a stark difference be tween no sub and sub while listening in stereo. You don't NEED a surround setup. And to be honest, most viewing spaces aren't exactly set up for a true surround system so you're really just making yourself feel good by saying "I have a 5.1 or 7.1 system". Of course, if you have the $100,000 and excessive room space to build a real theatre system, then god bless you.
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Depends. If you listen to music in stereo there is not much difference. If you listen to DVD audio with 5.1 mixes, maybe.

Subs may help if you're watching action movies and stuff is getting blown up. But to hear that in all its glory you need a surround sound setup.
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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

I'm not leaving my humble 2-way stereo for a fancy multi-channel setup (at least in the foreseeable future) BUT consider the addition of a subwoofer to my actual rig if that proves worthy.

Would any of you gentlemen share with me your practical experience on this matter
Two years ago I was in your situation: I'm very happy with my stereo set-up, although it is not necessarily that humble (a hybrid tube amp and a 3-way DIY speaker set at the heart of it). Sometimes I felt the lower end a bit lacking, so I got me a modest subwoofer.

The frequency range of my speaker set started at about 30-35 Hz. Not bad at all, but sometimes - and especially when watching films with the sound over my Hifi system - I felt something could be better. Now I added a subwoofer with a frequency range of 20 to 200 Hz and an adjustable Cross-over frequency of 50 to 150 Hz. I hesitated to get its bigger brother (with a range starting at 16 Hz), but I'm very happy with what I have now (a Magnat Monitor Sub 201A). Both for music and for films this - for the moment - convinced me that I don't need a fancy 5.1 or 7.1 multi-channel system. So, I would say: go for it - no need for a big investment, but it does make an interesting and enjoyable difference.

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Aren't the side firing Subs being blocked by the SVS's since they face out and are on the lower portion of the towers?
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This is my configuration, I found this position is more natural as it mimics having main speakers with large bass drivers anyhow. Like I said having dual subs flattened out my freq response in my room vs just one sub. My mains have side firing woofers so that helps the soundstage really well.

My mains are Rega RX5 towers https://www.rega.co.uk/products/rx5
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I love the implementation of a subwoofer, but one must bare in mind that room correction and acoustic treatment is often highly necessary. Bass frequencies are the hardest to obtain accurately with in a home room.
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Oh, my mains are...

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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

I'm not leaving my humble 2-way stereo for a fancy multi-channel setup (at least in the foreseeable future) BUT consider the addition of a subwoofer to my actual rig if that proves worthy.

Would any of you gentlemen share with me your practical experience on this matter (theoretical non-tested opinions will be mercilessly discarded) ?
Real-life suggestions, on the opposite, are very welcome ! (photo not obligatory)

Thank you, God Bless

Highly suggested! I run dual subs in my 2-channel setup (I don't have a HT setup, nor do I want one). I have dual SVS SB2000 subs run in stereo mode from my integrated amp. It has been the best upgrade to my speaker system short of buying new speakers which I'm not ready to do.

It all depends on what your main speakers are and their frequency range, how low do they go. I started out with one sub but found it created a bump around 60-70Hz I could not tame, the 2nd sub flattened everything out and pressurizes the room nicely when the music calls for it, as well made soundstage even wider than I already was experiencing.

Subwoofer setup is very critical to make sure it blends well with the mains...



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JBL PSW-1000
I've used this for the last 25 years or so. I use it on a regular 2ch set up for both my TV/movie viewing and my main music. It has both the power to kick @ss and the smoothness to make you forget there is even a sub in play depending on the source.

Specs

Type: single driver subwoofer

Frequency Response: 30Hz to 150Hz

Crossover Frequency: 90-150Hz

Bass: 1 x 300mm polymer laminate cone

Enclosure: bass reflex

Dimensions: 457 x 292 x 426mm

Weight: 16.4kg

Note: 100 watt power amplifier

Year: 1996



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I'm not leaving my humble 2-way stereo for a fancy multi-channel setup (at least in the foreseeable future) BUT consider the addition of a subwoofer to my actual rig if that proves worthy.

Would any of you gentlemen share with me your practical experience on this matter (theoretical non-tested opinions will be mercilessly discarded) ?
Real-life suggestions, on the opposite, are very welcome ! (photo not obligatory)

Thank you, God Bless
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