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Mortte
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^Well, maybe one reason can be, that according to Jon, there has been quite bad atmosphere in Yes. Maybe Jon even donīt want to come back. Some years ago I found quite hilarious interview about his fireing where he said in the end they have two tour busses where the jolly guys (he and Wakemen) were in the other and rest (sulky guys) in other.
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Dellinger
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It was because Jon had a severe asthma attack, and almost died from it (I think he said he actually died), and the band didn't want to wait for him to keep on touring. Still, that doesn't explain why they couldn't have him back once he was ready to sing again... oh well, perhaps because he wouldn't be able to keep up to a long touring scheduelle anyway. But still that doesn't explain why they couldn't keep in good terms and have Anderson sing with them on speciall events, shorter tours, studio recordings, whatever. And even if Anderson's voice is not the same as it used to be, I still think it's better than Davison's... his singing just sounds flat and lifeless, even if he can hit the notes with more ease at this time. |
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Jeffro
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Oh, didn't you know that Rush merely made the music they did in a misguided attempt to fit in and to curry favor with various groups? Conform of be cast out, indeed. By god! It couldn't have been because <GASP!> that was the type of music they were interested in making????!!???!?!?!????? That's crazy talk. It must have all been some elaborate scheme.
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Mortte
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^Well, I think you should listen that Hall Of Fame version of "Roundabout". I believe if I remembered right one reason why they fired him was his asthma-problems.
But anyway Davison got in that latest Yes-live problems to get high enough in "Heart of the sunrise". Also, I have wondered why vocal sound is so metal sounding in those earlier two album lives, maybe there is autotune?
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Dellinger
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Still I can't post replies... or long posts, I don't know what, because of that Captcha thing... I don't want to spend over half an hour again trying to postover and over again the same message. However, about Mortte's reply about Yes, I would need to hear the Hall of Fame performance again, but for what I remember, Jon Anderson still sings better than Davison at least. I had high hopes for Davison, but I just haven't been able to enjoy his singing from what I have heard... he just sounds too tame and life-less, unlike Anderson. Actually, I liked Benoit's singing better, specially on Fly from Here he really sang beautifully (much more so than Davison on Heaven and Earth... though I guess I might blame Sherwood for that too, since he produced vocals for that album, and somehow he has a special talent to suck out life from vocals on his projects)... though Benoit did sound like he struggle trying to sing Anderson's parts.
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verslibre
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I would be remiss to not point out how many bands that potentially describes. (Hint: a lot.) Zepp clones are (still) in abundance. Hell, Zebra did Zeppelin better than Zeppelin on their 1983 debut. Geddy and Al liked The Police and Ultravox, and when you like stuff that much, you tend to emulate it. Other (hard) rock bands/artists that embraced synthesizers: Blue Oyster Cult, Triumph, Frank Marino, Billy Thorpe, and Gary Wright, who recorded an album entirely with keyboards (The Dream Weaver) back in '75 before any other mainstream vocal artist that wasn't Kraftwerk did it Devo and Gary Numan included.
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verslibre
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Fixed. ;)
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Catcher10
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I missed that from them, must have been during my disco era........
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SteveG
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Come on Jose. Didn't you know that Rush, at first, was trying to be the new Archies!
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Catcher10
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Huh? Your first sentence is totally opposite of what all Rush interviews on that topic state. What is it that you know that even the members of Rush do not? The rest......thank God we have free speech.....because it's ridiculous.
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Mortte
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SMSM
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Like it or not, Rush was a sellout band in trying to keep up with musical times or being politically correct in order to win favors with the self described "progressives".
Early 70's, trying to be some trendy Led Zep sound, Some of their stuff in the 80's was new wave sounding, even going into rap in the 2000's and songs like Nobody's Hero was nothing more that kissing the butt of the powerful and privileged LGBT movement. The Trees was a pro-union song - kissing their butts - just to name a few Admittedly, the public helped get them into the rock and roll hall of fame, but that place is a similar elitist progressive, politically correct club that Rush continued to try and gain approval of.
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Jeffro
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The problem I have with VT is that I hear too much of Geddy's solo album in it. I think Geddy doing a solo album changed the way he writes songs. My Favorite Headache isn't a bad album but I certainly didn't want that sound in a Rush album.
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verslibre
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Vapor Trails is awesome. That's the last one I can listen to front-to-back. One killer song after another. One hell of a comeback after a long spell where they thought they might be finished.
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Jeffro
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Actually, Rush already did this with so so efforts like Snakes & Arrows and Roll The Bones. Many would add Vapor Trails to that list. At least they finished strong with Clockwork Angels.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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One of my biggest gripes about telling people Yes is my favorite band (Gentle Giant really is, but I usually don't have time to explain that to people who've never heard of them lol) is that there's more crap in their discography than gold now. Everything from 1968-1977 is amazing, Drama is good, 902103495583458 (I hate that album title) is solid, but then it's a mess of hodge-podge ideas that are usually half-baked, including mid-late 90's PC looking artwork etc lol.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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^Hey, Yes did it why not Rush? :P
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Do you copy your posts before hitting the very dangerous "Post Reply" button, sir? It's the best insurance policy! Sometimes I get denied, go back in, paste, captcha test again, then it posts. Never more than twice does it block me.
...So they can tarnish their discography with luke-warm attempts at creativity that will never match their back catalog! |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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You're right. They don't. They have to stay around as long as their fans want them to. Why? Because the fans say so.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Copycat.
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