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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2006 at 18:33
Ooo so Jaga Jazzist finally was accepted?
 
Good to hear.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2006 at 17:54
I think you should. You already have one album by both of those bands. It's a tough desicion because all of those albums are great IMO and it'll be hard for you to feel dissapointed with any of those albums, but I think it would be a good idea to branch out and discover at least one new band before getting your second album from the others.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2006 at 20:55
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

If you're going to get an album by Do Make Say Think be sure to get Either the last album or the one I recommended earlier. Those two are a great introduction to the band.

    

I'll look into them! Should I get one of those albums or f#a#(infinity) or ASMZ's debut?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2006 at 20:51
If you're going to get an album by Do Make Say Think be sure to get Either the last album or the one I recommended earlier. Those two are a great introduction to the band.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2006 at 19:37
Hmmm... it's funny, I've been checking out Do Make Think Say today, and my local record shop clerk recommended them to me. I guess they will be my next purchase (or maybe a GYBE or A Silver Mt. Zion CD).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2006 at 23:36

ahhhhh yes Jaga Jazzist why do i somehow keep forgettin them when i own A Livingroom Hush and The Stix???  happens when u have far too many records for yr own good!!!!

sometimes its hard to tell whether they are postrock OR nu fusion......kinda straddle the two i guess......but they're highly recommended for ppl who like Tortoise and lotsa jazz n' tronics in their rock hehehe....

havent heard What We Must yet but i will def get it soon, please!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2006 at 22:20
Do Make Say Think is a great suggestion. they are one of my favorite post rock bands, and "Goodbye..." is a masterpiece, to me anyways.
"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2006 at 22:17
^^ Go for their debut next and check out Do Make Say Think from Constellation. Their second album, "Goodbye enemy airship, the landlord is dead" is probably my second favoite post-rock album with the first one being Skinny Fists.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2006 at 21:44
I got Born into Trouble as Sparks Fly Upward... and I must say it is amazing!

What album of theirs should I get next?

And, I've heard Constellation records is a good label. What other good stuff comes from there?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2006 at 21:24
'What We Must' is incredible!  what a record
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2006 at 21:15
I haven't heard those bands you mentioned, but I have heard of some other bands that mix electronica with post-rock. Like: M83, Helios, World's End Girlfriend...

and this particular band wich has been recently added to the archives:


Jaga Jazzist


What We Must


The only possible drawback to this Norwegian dectet's triumphant Harbourfront appearance last year was the sense that they might have created unrealistically high expectations for their next album. Not to fear: Jaga have created unreal studio versions of their new material. Guitarist/leader Lars Horntveth and his pals have swapped the skittering programmed beats and angular lines of their earlier work for a more expansive palette, producing a work that is both unapologetically ambitious and invitingly playful. What We Must seems to have been inspired by Gil Evans' colourful arrangements, Tortoise's crafty juxtapositions, early King Crimson orneriness and the melodic grandeur of Pat Metheny at his most exploratory. There are passages throughout, however, that could only be Jaga's, like the wordless choral singing on "Swedenborgske Rom" or the heavenly techno-space-jazz of "Mikado." Whenever the proceedings threaten to get derailed, they're brought back on track by Horntveth's hook-heavy, charging guitars and his brother Martin's exuberant drumming. Is it the new prog-rock? The nu-Norwegian jazz? Regardless, it's staggeringly good.
Mike Doherty - EYE



The Stix



Futurist jazz 10-piece from Norway

Frequently, Jaga Jazzist sound like Tortoise cubed. The Stix, their second album, is a hyperkenetic extrapolation of the Chicago sound; that slippery and inspiring hybrid of post-rock, jazz and electronica. Jaga Jazzists spin, though, is to remove much of the post-rock - and with it much of the ponderousness inherent in some Tortoise disciples. Instead, the liked of I Could Have Killed Him In The Saunafocus on the innovative arrangements and sophistication of Charles Mingus and Gil Evans big bands, but update
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A Livingroom Hush


A Livingroom Hush is the debut by Norwegian jazz/electronics outfit Jaga Jazzist, released in the United Sates on Ninjatune a year later. A Livingroom Hush is simply one of the most enigmatic outings to ever come out of either genre (and how many times can you say that?). Realized after the group had been together for nine years and led by the stunningly original compositions of Lars Horntveth (who began composing for the group when he was 14 in 1994), A Livingroom Hush is so deeply ingrained in its ensemble textures and striated harmonics that Jaga Jazzist almost never sounds like a big band. A horn section of winds, reeds, and brass, keyboards galore, drums both real and imagined (electronic), vibes, glockenspiel, electric guitars and bass, electronic keyboards, tape recorders, and a slew of other things give them the edge on virtually anyone who has attempted the same thing: a seamless blending of creative jazz with electronic exploration and beats. Yes, A Livingroom Hush swings, rocks, rolls, and even spins from drum'n'bass loops to extraordinarily subtle arrangements where dynamics are paid as much attention to as textural integration and harmonic interaction. Conscious counterpoint in the solo sections is not unusual and never mathematical or soulless. "Going Down," with its engaged and oppositional drums, the winding of horn lines around different rhythmic surfaces, and the shifting layers of keyboards atop a complex and heterogeneous bassline, makes for a dazzling balance of improvisation and composition. Likewise, "Press Play" is dazzling in its restraint and complexity, with its Brazilian rhythmic interlude and Gil Evans-styled horn chart before glitches and rhythmic abnormalities enter the fray and eliminate them to leave a space for subtle samples, spare pianistic juxtapositions of rhythm and harmony, and a simple harmonic structure that leaves the melody somewhere between the notes before bass clarinetist Jørgen Munkeby creates a theme for exploration by the ensemble. If one is looking for comparisons to St. Germain, Les Hommes, or Jazzanova, forget it. This is hip and still jazz; the music is first and appearances come later. Jaga Jazzist is the very first group -- with no disrespect to Cinematic Orchestra -- to successfully meld the lineages of the electronic frontier with big band jazz aesthetics.
Thom Jurek


Highly recommended! Thumbs Up




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 22:27
hey guys the post-rock strain often discussed here is of the melodic/sad/epic guitar-heavy variety i.e. Mogwai, GYBE, Sigur Ros, Explosions etc......
 
but anyone else here into the more electronic-experimental end of postrock, stuff like
 
Tone Rec
To Roccoco Rot
Kriedler
Seefeel
early Winsdor For The Derby
Mouse On Mars
 
i like the way they really merge rock and electronica aesthetics.........
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:57
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:


Originally posted by Arrrghus Arrrghus wrote:

Chamberry, I think a LOT of people agree with your view on Spiderlands. I've heard a good chunk of the album, and I think it's good, maybe even great, but not spectacular. It's very innovative, though. We can't take that away from the album.
If there ever was an album that needs to be listened as a whole, it's Spiderland, so don't give up on it just yet.
Perhaps I'm alone in my view, but for me it's easily the best post-rock (well, related) album ...


Oh, I'm buying that album as soon as I get the cash, but I had to buy Born into Trouble...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:27
Originally posted by Arrrghus Arrrghus wrote:

Chamberry, I think a LOT of people agree with your view on Spiderlands. I've heard a good chunk of the album, and I think it's good, maybe even great, but not spectacular. It's very innovative, though. We can't take that away from the album.

If there ever was an album that needs to be listened as a whole, it's Spiderland, so don't give up on it just yet.

Perhaps I'm alone in my view, but for me it's easily the best post-rock (well, related) album ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:13
Chamberry, I think a LOT of people agree with your view on Spiderlands. I've heard a good chunk of the album, and I think it's good, maybe even great, but not spectacular. It's very innovative, though. We can't take that away from the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 15:39
thank you cham, I unfortunately don't have anymore time to write about Bell Orchestre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 12:40
Originally posted by proger proger wrote:

Is "This Will Destroy You - Young Mountain" is post prog?


I don't know about the name post-prog, but there are bands in the genre that sound more proggy with wierd time signatures ect. This Will Destroy You would fit that definition along with The Samuel Jackson Five and many others I don't remember at the momment.


Kimoi:
I've heard of the name "Add N to (X)" while looking for bands and people talking about them. I was very curious when I figured they where like a form of electronic avant-garde. I'll be looking forward to listening to them. I can't say the same thing about Trans Am only that I often confused them with Fly Pan Am, but by the looks of that review, it doesn't seem like a bad band after all. Another one to my wish list. Thanks for pointing them out. Smile


Freak:
Yes, we are a little group in here compared to other genres, but the same happens with alot of the other genres as well. Most of the time Symphonic prog, Italian prog, Art Rock and Prog Metal are very popular in this site whilst the other genres have pretty much the same fans as we do. It's a sad thing really (Cry). We need more fans of the other lesser-known genres. Good to have you aboard mate.

About a Godspeed reunion well... There are always rumors about them getting together again, but that's what they are, rumors. No luck as of yet. Cry


Rico:
Nice thoughts of the album. I still need to get me some more Magyar Posse and now I know that this album could wait a little longer. Thumbs Up


Arrrghus:
Good to hear! I think I'm the only person in the world (exagerating) that doesn't think that Spiderland is a masterpiece. Jimbo is a fan of the band in a poll made some time ago he said that it was his favorite album of the post-rock genre and many people whom I talked to about the album say good things about the album. I need to give it some more listenings.


Oh my. I'm starting to look like the son of Erik and Maani with posts like this LOL



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 11:21
Hello! I've been getting into post-rock recently...

So far I have all but one of the studio albums of Sigur Ros (I'm missing the debut), Lift Your Skinny Fists..., The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place, and a good chunk more that I just can't remember.

I've been wanting to get Spiderlands by Slint, as I heard that is the prototypical post-rock/math-rock album. I'm getting Born into Trouble today...

Just thought you'd all like to know there's a new fan out there!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 10:58
Is "This Will Destroy You - Young Mountain" is post prog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2006 at 00:51
Random Avenger (2005)

This is actually 5.00 in the Archives, by an anonymus, incadescent, insignificant blind rate. But that makes it Magyar's highest. With Kings Of Time actually being the lowest, but yeah more consistent, rate. ShockedCry

but on to impressions...

I remember this album even since caring about MP and MP's music. In the covers game I often pick frames from this album, in hope for a hard cover. Nobody guessed it really till clues time...

but really, on to impressions! Stern SmileLOL

The most remarkable (perhaps it's only one way sense, but I mean by that not the complement of being incredibly good, but the quality of denoting a difference) thing over at Random Avenger is the electronic slight taste which is revealed or even upon which the music gets build-up and carried away. Sudden Death, for example (one of the strongest piece on the album) gets in the minimalism of electronic rough sequencing on to being a hard pulse of post-mildorgasmic-climax.

Moderately remarkable (first sense this time) is another occasional, out of nowhere-into everywhere, saccadate and flourish post-rock Magyar Posse definitive style and acute sense music exploration, with key phrases to enlight as much as any other great factor from the previous two album, with a temperate state and with a loose knowledge. Everything's in stillness or in chaos, but nothing's too tranquil, neither too gigantically on-shock. You could get the art-allure in more in-touch phrases, but mostly it's music played normally to which to react anything but indifferent.

The mentioned Sudden Death track, plus the mother of all pieces European Lover/Random Avenger are the top-notch figures of the album. In fact, to be sincere, between the latter and any major "part" of Kings Of Time or any profound feeling over at the debut, there isn't much of a distance. With great moments, Random Avenger is certainly not the draw-back stereotype.

Perhaps it is less and least remarkable that Magyar Posse has become tad mutual, with the high intention of that being here and only here.

3.5 stars to 4 stars. Magyar Posse is the first band in my e/pr journey which I've kept onwards in my collection (though, yeah, 3 albums, pff Embarrassed), curiosly in detriment of Explosions. All three albums deserve credit and big, without fear in exaggerations.


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