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mbzr48 
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 Posted: January 30 2025 at 12:45 |
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=85236
1. Evolution* (1:43) 2. Gateway (7:20) 3. Invader (5:25) 4. Blackhole (7:54) 5. King Kong (7:14) 6. Pyramid (6:20) 7. Entity (3:22) 8. Guilty Pleasure (8:05) 9. Cross Dissolve (6:30) 10. Long Road (6:56) 11. Spock's Harp* (2:05) 12. Gargantuan (Pt.2)* (12:24) Total Time 74:18 * - Vinyl & CD Only
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Per Kohler
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Posted: January 30 2025 at 02:19 |
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For my eyes there are no links visible on my mobile. Like on laptop.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: January 29 2025 at 13:09 |
As far as I can tell, if it's possible to use mobile phone for visiting web sites, then it's possible to copy texts (including links) by using smartphones. It's less convenient than with PC or laptop, but anyway possible.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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NotAProghead
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Posted: January 29 2025 at 13:04 |
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^ We cannot know your sources if you don't point them out.
Then David and I found out that your source was not quite correct. I think it's obvious that only verified info helps to improve the site.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Per Kohler
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Posted: January 29 2025 at 12:50 |
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According to RateYourMusic "In Case of Second Sight" HOBSON'S CHOICE was recorded in 1999. That was my source.
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Per Kohler
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Posted: January 29 2025 at 12:46 |
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I write from mobile not laptop. As I have pointed out before (more than one time) there are no links visible on mentioned mobile. That's the reason.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: January 29 2025 at 12:19 |
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^ I think for us it would be enough to use info from this page.
I've added the lines: The band said in 2022: “This is our second album. Formal recording began in the Fall of 1999, but it has remained unmixed and unreleased till now. This album is dedicated to the memory of Richard Bird III. Thank you.“ To Per Kohler: Please give in future links to the albums and, when necessary (like in case of HOBSON'S CHOICE "In Case of Second Sight" album), links confirming your info. Edited by NotAProghead - January 29 2025 at 12:45 |
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yam yam
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Posted: January 28 2025 at 23:31 |
For those who don't use Facebook, I'll quote what he said about the album here: "Hobson's Choice started this, our second album, back in Fall 1999. We'd played at least five or so "debut" gigs after the release of our first CD "New Horizons". These ongoing debuts were largely because we spent months rehearsing and preparing for singular gigs it always seemed like we had to reintroduce ourselves to an audience. In the ongoing years after tracking there were many changes. I briefly lived and worked in NYC but returned in 2002, and even during that time I was flying in to overdub keyboard parts… we retracted several songs. Things, however, slowed down as we started taking on other musical commitments and after Katrina there was a lost year or so just trying to get "home" again. But eventually we circled back to continue the work on the album. Sometime around 2009 we were ready to mix it, but new obstacles were waiting - this time it was the 1970s 3M M79 24 track 2" tape deck that broke down - after only one songs worth tape had been mixed. This problem was not easily fixed. We were unable to find a company that could fix the logic circuit in question, and this issue dragged on for several years before we started to consider simply bringing the tapes to another studio. But that too, ended up going nowhere. Richard had long spoken of finding a location that he could parley (he was one to barter and trade when necessary) his skills and our needs, but time kept on slipping away and, after a while, I personally confess that I simply stopped caring - it had taken so long that I’d simply lost my way. It wasn't until the initial months of lockdown 2020 when I started going through my rough mix cds from the recording sessions that I started to see the album in it's entirety again. So I sketched a montage of what I had - including the several particularly long songs which we'd chosen to record in fragmented sections. The only thing that was missing was Richard's final guitar solos, and vocals. After I had my twin boys in 2013, I wasn't able to spend as much time w/ Richard as I once had and to be honest, he was going through changes as well. I then got a phone call from a mutual friend that changed everything. I called Richard immediately and we talked about his health concerns. He spoke optimistically about his treatment and his desire to face this head on if it might only give him a year or two more of life. When I brought up releasing the album as-is with polished up rough mixes, he was in enthusiastic and in agreement that it was the best way to "get the album out" - he said he had the last rough mix cd with his finished tracks and he'd copy it for me… I texted him a week later when I worried it might have gotten lost in the mail, but he assured me he would mail it the next day. It never arrived. Richard was briefly hospitalized and passed away on Oct 4, 2020. After several months I approached Joel to discuss the option of sending the tapes to Nashville to get them digitized and tho it meant not sticking to our all-analog philosophy, we should nonetheless proceed to get the multitracks and properly mix the album. I've known Richard since I was 18 years old - and I can honestly say when I started working with these tracks I wasn't only listening the to recorded sounds but listening and leaving myself open for his guidance. I considered that one significance of our friendship might well have been to prepare me for this endeavor. I spent the better part of the next year sending tapes off one or two at a time to get transferred and then once I got the WAV files back I'd start editing and mixing the songs… Richard really shines on this - his guitar playing and vocals - I was uniquely aware of what we were after and I took it as far as I could before I simply had to let it go. Thanks to Steve Daffner for listening and to Mike Hogan for mastering. Lu Rojas also greatly helped realize this album by sharing a recent recording of Richard playing "Richard II" on nylon stringed acoustic… I'd asked Lu after getting the tracks to look into removing any fade outs on the last chord so that I might be able to use the ringing out of the last chord for as long as possible. When I got the revised audio I was shocked to hear him say at the very very end of the chord dying out, "eh, I made a bunch of mistakes". I know I’ve bottled up quite a lot to get to this moment so perhaps now I can release it properly and have a really ugly cry." Album page on PA: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=76938. Album on Bandcamp: https://hobsonschoice.bandcamp.com/album/in-case-of-second-sight. David Stocker said in a comment to that Facebook post that they had a limited run of 300 CDs pressed, many of which they would be giving out to family and friends. Edit: According to the Wayback Machine's capture of the Audiophile Studios website on 26th May 2006 (the earliest working link saved for the site at web.archive.org), Hobson's Choice were still working on their second album there, so I presume recordings were still being made. They were still apparently working on it on 10th January 2008 too, but seem to have finished at Audiophile by March 16th 2008. I guess the only thing we can say with any accuracy then is: "recorded between the fall of 1999 and the spring of 2008". That ties in nicely with David Stocker's statement in his Facebook post that: "Sometime around 2009 we were ready to mix it".
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Posted: January 28 2025 at 22:39 |
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Pär Lindh - 25 Pieces for Organ Harpsichord & Piano
Releases information: CD Nordverk Classical Masterworks - Crimsonic - CLSCD 002 (Sweden 2015) - E&O Team: Thanks, done. The same comment as in the post above. Edited by NotAProghead - January 29 2025 at 13:00 |
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Posted: January 28 2025 at 22:38 |
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Pär Lindh - Three Christmas Concertos
Releases information: CD Nordverk Classical Masterworks - Crimsonic - CLSCD001 (Sweden 2014) - E&O Team: Thanks, done. By the way, formally albums 25 Pieces For Organ Harpsichord & Piano and Three Christmas Concertos (both are your additions) don't belong to PÄR LINDH PROJECT.  Edited by NotAProghead - January 29 2025 at 12:56 |
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Posted: January 28 2025 at 21:54 |
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HOBSON'S CHOICE - In Case of Second Sight
Releases information: Recorded in 1999 Format: Cd, Digital - E&O Team: Thanks, done. With some changes (see the posts below). Edited by NotAProghead - January 29 2025 at 12:46 |
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Posted: January 28 2025 at 18:54 |
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Wizrd - Elements: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=87236: No track times. 1. GT, Me & My 6610 (3:55) 2. Mesmerized (4:52) 3. The Void (3:26) 4. Fylkesvei 33 (6:12) 5. National Day (3:04) 6. You're Exposed! (4:04) 7. !!! (2:03) 8. Fire & Flames (6:31) 9. Kaleidoskop (3:08) Total Time 37:15 - E&O Team: Thanks, David, done.
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Posted: January 27 2025 at 15:12 |
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^^ Thanks, David, both done.
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Posted: January 26 2025 at 19:06 |
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^ The DVD version of this release could also be updated to include details of the tracks that the guests performed on:
(see also: http://www.lt-uriah-heep.ro/Uriah%20Heep/Albums%20Video/mag_party.html for additional releases info). - Mick Box / guitar, vocals - Lee Kerslake / drums, vocals - Trevor Bolder / bass, vocals - Phil Lanzon / keyboards, vocals - Bernie Shaw / lead vocals With: - Ken Hensley / organ (8-13), electric guitar (13-15), acoustic guitar (10) - Thijs Van Leer / flute (3,6) - John Lawton / lead vocals (13-15) - Aileen McLaughlin / backing vocals - Emma Robbins / backing vocals - Kim Chandler / backing vocals Optional extra info from that Romanian site's entry for the release: Recorded live at Shepherds Bush Empire, London on 7th December 2001 Soundtrack produced by Pip Williams Recorded on the Fleetwood mobile and engineered by Tim Summerhayes Assisted by Laura Whittaker and Alex Goodison Mixed at the Stoneroom Studios and engineered by Lee Hirons DVD Classic Rock Productions - CRL0922 (2002, UK) Edit: Great little video which combines the two tracks that Thijs Van Leer performs flute on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWGBU0cE6Bk - well worth a look!
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Posted: January 26 2025 at 19:00 |
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Uriah Heep - The Magician's Birthday Party: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5924 = No track times, possible amendments to guest musicians info. 2. Tales (ft. Thijs Van Leer) (5:55) 3. Sweet Pretender (4:17) 4. I'll Keep On Trying (4:28) 5. July Morning (10:12) 6. Paradise / The Spell (11:09) 7. Circle Of Hands (6:47) 8. The Magician's Birthday (10:28) 9. Sympathy (5:25) 10. Free 'N' Easy (3:18) 11. Sunrise (4:14) 12. Easy Livin' (3:33) Total Time 74:35 - Mick Box / guitar, vocals - Lee Kerslake / drums, vocals - Trevor Bolder / bass, vocals - Phil Lanzon / keyboards, vocals - Bernie Shaw / lead vocals With: - Ken Hensley / organ (6-8,11,12), electric guitar (8-10), acoustic guitar (6) - Thijs Van Leer / flute (2) - John Lawton / lead vocals (8-10) - Aileen McLaughlin / backing vocals - Emma Robbins / backing vocals - Kim Chandler / backing vocals CD Classic Rock Productions - CRL0933 (April 2002, UK) Edit: The Discogs page for the CD version of this release doesn't give details of the tracks that the guests perform on, but these can be found by comparing the track listing of the CD with that of the DVD version here, and amending the track numbers accordingly (& I hope I've got those right!)
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Posted: January 26 2025 at 14:08 |
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^ Thanks for letting me know, Eugene.
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Posted: January 26 2025 at 14:05 |
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^ David, I've just PMd Ian and asked him to delete albums, so no need to reuse their pages.
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Posted: January 26 2025 at 14:02 |
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^ I would like to have reused them rather than delete the album IDs from the database completely, but I didn't consider the fact that these albums already had some ratings which would be transferred to the replacements. Reusing them would still an option of course if just the ratings were deleted rather than the entire albums. Greg is taking a bit of a break from PA at the moment, and I'm not sure when he'll be returning, so Ian will have to take care of this in his absence. If he were to just remove the ratings, then I'd reuse the existing album pages next time I have something to add in their place.
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Posted: January 26 2025 at 13:20 |
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^ There were some thoughts to reuse these albums' entries on page 518 of this thread. That's why I did nothing with them.
OK, I'll ask admins to delete them.
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Posted: January 26 2025 at 09:58 |
^Just a reminder that these two albums still need to be deleted.
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