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Failcore

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 20:02

Lol, I thought that's what Chaucer was, lol.

jammun

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:58

Deathrabbit wrote:

Chaucer?

I think the author is unknown, though it's from that general era. Personally, I think it was written by a previous incarnation of Zappa.

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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:54

Of all the things I should care about, this does not rank very high on the list.

I do think it's funny, though. Does putting a few asterisks in between the letters make it not a swear word? If anything it draws more attention to it and makes you think more about the word. And who in the world doesn't know these words? Surely before I was 10 I was saying f**k and all, now I wonder how much sooner kids who have better internet access will be one-upping my swearing...

Edited by stonebeard - October 24 2011 at 20:12

Failcore

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:54

Chaucer?

jammun

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:48

The filter can easily be subverted provided you have some knowledge of Old and/or Middle English. So for example this will not be caught by the filter (though maybe some astute admin will kill it).

May no man slepe in youre halle
For flyes,
Madame,
For flyes,
Madame,
But gyf he haue a tent of xv enche
Wyt such byes
To dryve awey the flyes,
Madame.
Iblessyd be such byes
That maketh such suyes
By tuynne my lady thyes
To dryve awey the flyes,
Madame.

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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.

Dean

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:45

Padraic wrote:

Frankly, my dear, I am apathetic.

How rhett you are.

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Dean

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:44

SolarLuna96 wrote:

Dean wrote:

SolarLuna96 wrote:

Dean wrote:

What an odd thing to get upset about. Then you do seem to be confusing apathy with not giving a damn.

Are they not the same thing?

No, not really. Apathy is indifference to important things, not giving a damn is indifference to unimportant things.

I always thought that they could be interchangeable no matter the context

You can interchange them, that's the beauty of language, but apathy is usually indifference to things that are generally considered interesting or moving, whereas you can not give a damn about things that are interesting or uninteresting. Being apathetic to uninteresting things isn't much of an achievement, but you have to go out of your way to not give a damn about them.

What?

Padraic

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:44

Frankly, my dear, I am apathetic.

A Person

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:41

Slartibartfast wrote:

And of course, what's the difference between ignorance and apathy?

I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T CARE

SolarLuna96 wrote:

I always thought that they could be interchangeable no matter the context

I've always thought not giving a damn had a more negative connotation than apathy.

Edited by A Person - October 24 2011 at 19:43

Slartibartfast View Drop Down

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:39

SolarLuna96 wrote:

Dean wrote:

SolarLuna96 wrote:

Dean wrote:

What an odd thing to get upset about. Then you do seem to be confusing apathy with not giving a damn.

Are they not the same thing?

No, not really. Apathy is indifference to important things, not giving a damn is indifference to unimportant things.

I always thought that they could be interchangeable no matter the context

And of course, what's the difference between ignorance and apathy?

Edited by Slartibartfast - October 24 2011 at 19:39

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Luna

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:36

Dean wrote:

SolarLuna96 wrote:

Dean wrote:

What an odd thing to get upset about. Then you do seem to be confusing apathy with not giving a damn.

Are they not the same thing?

No, not really. Apathy is indifference to important things, not giving a damn is indifference to unimportant things.

I always thought that they could be interchangeable no matter the context

Dean

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:33

SolarLuna96 wrote:

Dean wrote:

What an odd thing to get upset about. Then you do seem to be confusing apathy with not giving a damn.

Are they not the same thing?

No, not really. Apathy is indifference to important things, not giving a damn is indifference to unimportant things.

What?

Luna

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:32

Dean wrote:

What an odd thing to get upset about. Then you do seem to be confusing apathy with not giving a damn.

Are they not the same thing?

Dean

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:31

What an odd thing to get upset about. Then you do seem to be confusing apathy with not giving a damn.

What?

Slartibartfast View Drop Down

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:30

Eärendil wrote:

Mr ProgFreak wrote:

My suggestion: Abolish the "no profanity" rule, but maintain the profanity filter. I've never understood why both are in place. When I say "f*ck that" ... how can that be offensive to anyone? If I say "f*ck you" ... now that's a personal attack and could still be breaking site rules even if we don't specifically focus on profanity.

I agree with that too. It's so much more damaging to a person to say "You're dumb" than to say "f**k that" around them. At least that's how it should be.

Uhhhhh, you're dumb. Tongue

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Anthony H. View Drop Down

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:02

It's upsetting that apathy is the most popular option here.

Earendil

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 18:48

Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I agree with that too. It's so much more damaging to a person to say "You're dumb" than to say "f**k that" around them. At least that's how it should be.

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 17:07

Logan wrote:

Slartibartfast wrote:

I thing George Carlin put it best: shoot is just sh*t with two "o"s.

Ah, now I understand the idiom "Shoot first, ask question later". I wonder if PA's interview team does this.

No, we Censored don't. Our interview data base can favourable be compared to Volume 10-21 of US Senate Hearings, 1988.

Our mothers are very proud of us (they believe we work for CIA).

Edited by toroddfuglesteg - October 24 2011 at 17:14

Logan

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 16:48

Slartibartfast wrote:

I thing George Carlin put it best: shoot is just sh*t with two "o"s.

Ah, now I understand the idiom "Shoot first, ask question later". I wonder if PA's interview team does this.

And now I understand the lyrics of Yes' "Shoot first', aim low".

"Sh*t high; aim low" -- good advice.

Duos for fave acts

Luca Pacchiarini View Drop Down

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Posted: October 24 2011 at 16:06

I don't have a preference, since I'm not going to swear in English, ever.

I do swear occasionally, in situations of extreme dispair and frustration, but... on the Internet... and in a foreign language it'd seem strange to me...

Swearing is probably, together with counting numbers, the thing you'll never spontaneously learn to do in another language which is not your natural one.

Poll Question: What you think of PA's profanity filter?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
It's a good policy and I'm glad the site uses it.	10	[17.54%]
It's irritating, but necessary for the forum to function.	4	[7.02%]
I don't care either way about it.	19	[33.33%]
It should be made optional.	11	[19.30%]
I would prefer it gone, but I can deal with it staying.	9	[15.79%]
It's a stupid policy that should be done away with.	4	[7.02%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted