PA's Profanity Filter
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Topic: PA's Profanity Filter
Posted By: Anthony H.
Subject: PA's Profanity Filter
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 20:08
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There's a been a lengthy discussion about this on the forum. I figured a poll would be a good way to quantify peoples' opinions on the issue.
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 20:13
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It's irritating, but necessary for the forum to function. ------------- 
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 20:22
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Optional ------------- 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 20:31
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Making it Optional is logical, but i'm not sure how that will affect the forum. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 21:21
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I'm all for freedom of expression, but I can understand why filters are in place. Even if children are not involved, there's a lot of places, like many workplaces, that will block any site that has any profanity on it. (I know, I know, you shouldn't be on the net at work....) At least have a little fun with the filters. There was a site I used to post on that, for example, changed the f-word to "drat" and a common 3-word retort referencing oral sex to "I like pretty pretty flowers!" ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 21:52
------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Deathrabbit wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 22:23
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The optional option doesn't seem to fit with the rest of your choices.
That would probably be ideal either way. Not that anything is going to happen with it of course. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 22:39
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I think PA is pretty relaxed about the swearing issue and although I do baulk at the hypocrisy of me having to type something like 'crude little runts' instead of erm.....I think we do have a duty of care to the wider community to be seen to have control measures in place such as the profanity filter, moderators and admin team etc. This transcript of a response from Philip Pullman to a question posed by a Christian who was offended at the title of one of the former's books (The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ) pretty much sums up my own stance on censorship: Yes. It was a shocking thing to say, and I knew it was a shocking thing to say. But no one has the right to live without being shocked. No one has the right to spend their life without being offended. Nobody has to read this book. Nobody has to pick it up. Nobody has to open it. And if they open it and read it, they don’t have to like it. And if you read it and dislike it, you don’t have to remain silent about it. You can write to me — You can complain about it. You can write to the publisher. You can write to the paper. You can write your own book. You can do all those things, but there your rights stop. No one has the right to stop me from writing this book. No one has the right to stop it being published, or sold, or bought, or read. And that’s all I have to say on that subject. ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 22:42
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The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ great title |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 22:47
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^ Yep, the sequel was Buddha was a Fat b*****d (it bombed)
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 22:55
there is that. And as I stated in the other thread, many places, libraries, schools and such, that use web filters that block sites with profanity. In order to allow access to the most users, many forums choose to disallow certain words and phrases. This is a decision for the owner(s) of the site. As guests here, we are obligated to abide by their rules. If you have a problem with that, you can discuss it with Max, or not post. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 23:00
| LAST OPTION, MOTHERf**kERS |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 22 2011 at 23:16
 Also, I'm not trying to make any sort of statement with this poll. I'm just curious about gauging peoples' opinions. ------------- |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 00:57
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I don't see how it can be made optional...Does this means anybody could choose to swear or not? Then better delete it. I believe it's positive and must be mandatory, seen too many forums turn into crap because of stupid and vulgar attacks. Iván
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 01:33
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I don't care
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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 02:28
| This filter is a necessity in today's world. Mostly due to the fifty rebel states, the homes of porn and prudish Mid-Westerners who still want babies to be delivered by storks. Unfortunate, those prudish elements rules our world and we have to deal with their whims and opinions. Hence the filter. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 02:38
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Turning off the auto-censor or making it optional would not permit anyone to swear. The "no profanity" rule would remain, it would still be against site rules to swear and more people would be reprimanded for using swear words on the site. Everyone using a swear word without self-censoring would be breaking site rules and liable for punishment of some kind, of which we only have two: demotion and/or suspension - under some circumstances (lesser swear words perhaps) we may give people the choice, other times we may dole out both just for the fun of it.
And then there would be the accusations that Admins were spiteful and vindictive for punishing those who swear, and in retaliation we would have to permaban more people because we are spiteful and vindictive and don't like people making more work for us than is necessary. ------------- What? |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 03:08
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The best option for me is "I don't care at all" because I don't swear (either on here or in real life, pretty much) but I'm also completely fine with other people doing so if they want to.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 04:28
Profanity is used regularly here. So this rule is obviously flexible or not applied always. Or do you mean circumventing the censor? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 05:12
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I don't mind, but it's because I don't swear in English (but I think the filter had been also set up for other linguages, so I won't be able to say : "Rien à branler"). |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 05:35
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^ Yeah so? I can swear in Scottish gaelic eg Pogue Mahone but by virtue of doing so is transparent self censorship, so both of us must give a branler? -------------
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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 06:26
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1. Why do we want to swear ? 2. Why can't we do something more useful than debate this ? Helping young ladies over the roads, for example. Why this debate ?
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 06:44
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We swear because we are repressed (this manifests itself in many forms of which swearing is but one instance) Politeness originates in indifference i.e. it really doesn't matter ( I know it's a very unpalatable notion) but once you get your head round this you will be able to disseminate the angry (those who genuinely care) from the merely inarticulate. -------------
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 07:21
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I'm torn:
On one hand, there's no need to censor words. They are just words and those who get offended, by something as stupid as four little letters, shouldn't be coddled.
On the other hand, it does make me feel more comfortable cussing up a storm here. -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 07:31
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There are about fourteen million things that concern me more than the auto censor.
------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 07:37
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My combined reviews of your two albums will be considerably less than fourteen million words. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 07:38
| I barely care enough about this issue to post here stating exactly that. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 07:48
If I'm referring to the hypothetical case of the auto-censor being switched off how can I possibly mean circumventing it?
We could be anal about applying the rules and make everyone's life a misery (including mine), or we can be intelligent about it and let the occasional self-censored or auto-censored word slip by if it is obviously not used to cause offence or to be deliberately upsetting. Striking a happy medium between jocular banter among men of the world and Machiavellian application of the rules isn't really that difficult - because turning a blind eye is just another form of laziness and I'm well practised in that, not in the lack of will to do something about an infringement of the rules, but dereliction of the tiresome act of patrolling each and every post looking for them. Therefore in the spirit of give and take I don't think it's a huge ask on our part to expect people to police themselves and not over use swearing or over become reliant on the auto-censor when making posts. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 08:00
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^ I didn't understand what you meant. Now I think I do. It's confusing. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 08:42
My suggestion: Abolish the "no profanity" rule, but maintain the profanity filter. I've never understood why both are in place. When I say "f*ck that" ... how can that be offensive to anyone? If I say "f*ck you" ... now that's a personal attack and could still be breaking site rules even if we don't specifically focus on profanity. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 09:29
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^ I agree with you Mike. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 09:33
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I have a technical question. Can Admin see what we have actually written? Is there a difference between f**k and f**k? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 10:31
Well, it boils down to M@x then, and what his reasons for keeping the profanity rules in place are. I don't think that by loosening them up a bit this place would turn into YouTube. And even if it did, the rule could always be reinstated. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 11:39
The auto-censor acts on data input, so the changed word is stored in the database, not the original. So in answer to your question, no we cannot tell the difference, but we do know you didn't mean fork, funk or fisk.
This in itself kills any idea of having the auto-censor as a client-side option. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 11:45
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i voted on the first option since i seem that is the best way to keep the place more friendly, and if you want to swear do it like in comics do this &%@#%$@
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 11:48
For MMA he scrapped the rule and the censor. However, there it was messing up the URLs and biographies of a fair number of metal bands. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 12:06
And us metalheads like to swear   ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 12:06
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I went for option three. I think it works as it is. We can tell what people are trying to say and what is more important, what it means in context. Most times people swear round here it is just for comic effect.
Nope, I don't give a flying f**k! one way or the other, ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 14:30
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Hey guys if you really care about the cuss words showing up on the boards, do this... **EDIT** Sorry ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 14:41
| <sigh> |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 14:43
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I knew that last post would get it in the neck. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 14:48
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sorry, I edited it
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 15:03
Well you shouldn't swear on teh interwebz. 
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 15:32
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"I would prefer it gone, but I can deal with it staying." I know kids as young as 12 and 13 may be reading this site but honestly, you're gunna see it somewhere. And pretty sure most of us knew, and maybe dropped, the F bomb, at 13. Or younger  it's just a website anyway. Guess I don't really care either way, but I already voted for what I said at first so...shucky darns! |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 16:05
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Interesting to see all of you spending time on a discussion and then ending your posts with 'I don't care...' Deep inside, you do, I guess... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 16:05
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P.S. sorry for using Micky dots... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 16:20
I doubt it. Swearwords like "Genesis" "Magma" "Soft Machine" "Gentle Giant" and "Yes" will scare them away. These swear words are after all in our heading, very visible. That's why Phil Collins never visits our website. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 16:23
hah! But really in boredom, I like to peruse random profiles and have seen profiles that age. Usually not active but crazy to think how young! I didn't even listen to any music until I was like 13  As for swearing I've heard 9 year olds online with PS3 that used some pretty profane language. But that's getting off topic. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 16:54
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What people think is way more offensive than what they say. I don't even know what I'm trying to say, so don't ask.  ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 17:04
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Perhaps but we can't censor people's thoughts. YET!  |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 17:12
| Thoughtcrime! It's 2011, no it's 2045, no it's 1999. No it's a big honkin' donkey schlong! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 17:17
You got me. I would never have guessed. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 17:30
i need a propanol filter badly 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 17:37
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WWFZD? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 17:47
I c wat u did ther ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 19:28
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Going to try using a proper noun:
Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t
Will the correct name of this, sadly, no longer existent TV show be filtered? ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 23 2011 at 19:30
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Yep HUMBUG!^ guessing that won't be censored ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 00:45
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Optional.
Also, it's funny we have a swear filter and a banner for a band called f**k the Facts sprawled over the top of the page at times.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 02:44
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I don't give a f**k about it. I am used to limit the usage of profanity to speech when I'm in the mood for it.
Note: These asterisks were manually entered and not caused by PA's profanity filter.
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 06:12
Why is that worth mentioning?
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 06:39
To emphasize that I am used to limit the usage of profanity to speech when I'm in the mood for it, so I avoid profanity in written text. The only confrontation that I have had with this filter was in the Song Game or the Song Word game when I entered the title of that Lenny Kravitz song. -------------
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 06:41
Oh, well I don't think it really matters either way, an asterisk is an asterisk no matter if it was put in by you or a bot.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 06:50
| Are you gonna go my way, q.m. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 07:02
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Just as well nobody comes from the northern UK town of Sc**thorpe ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 07:40
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I don't really care about it, either way. On this forum I used to self censor anyway, before the auto censor was implemented. I go on another forum where pretty much anything goes, and it's not the freindliest of places, although it's mostly current affairs.
It's different here. People tend to be less 'sweary' about music.. I'm not offended by profanity, but I expect some people are, so it's probably a worthwhile policy to ensure that this is a place that can be enjoyed by all who come here. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 10:05
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I personally think the profanity filter is ridiculous. Profanity is such an arbitrary construct anyway, the notion is goign away in modern society. People are beginning to realize it's ridiculous to create a list of words and make them verboten.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 10:17
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 10:44
Nowadays even young people use profanities (not that I'm applauding that) so I'm not sure what the purpose is here where most (not all) of us are at least semi-adults. But it has its advantages. To be honest, when you add "f**k" to a sentence to make it sound more powerful, the "**" actually help highlight the word... ------------- 
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 11:11
And lives on Gropec**t Lane :(
You're just making it take longer to write your post for no reason. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 11:33
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I thing George Carlin put it best: shoot is just sh*t with two "o"s. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Luca Pacchiarini
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 16:06
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I don't have a preference, since I'm not going to swear in English, ever.
I do swear occasionally, in situations of extreme dispair and frustration, but... on the Internet... and in a foreign language it'd seem strange to me...
Swearing is probably, together with counting numbers, the thing you'll never spontaneously learn to do in another language which is not your natural one.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 16:48
Ah, now I understand the idiom "Shoot first, ask question later". I wonder if PA's interview team does this. And now I understand the lyrics of Yes' "Shoot first', aim low". "Sh*t high; aim low" -- good advice. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 17:07
No, we Our mothers are very proud of us (they believe we work for CIA).
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 18:48
I agree with that too. It's so much more damaging to a person to say "You're dumb" than to say "f**k that" around them. At least that's how it should be.
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:02
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It's upsetting that apathy is the most popular option here.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:30
 ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:31
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What an odd thing to get upset about. Then you do seem to be confusing apathy with not giving a damn. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:32
Are they not the same thing?
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:33
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:36
I always thought that they could be interchangeable no matter the context
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:39
And of course, what's the difference between ignorance and apathy? ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:41
I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T CARE
I've always thought not giving a damn had a more negative connotation than apathy. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:44
| Frankly, my dear, I am apathetic. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:44
You can interchange them, that's the beauty of language, but apathy is usually indifference to things that are generally considered interesting or moving, whereas you can not give a damn about things that are interesting or uninteresting. Being apathetic to uninteresting things isn't much of an achievement, but you have to go out of your way to not give a damn about them. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:45
------------- What? |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:48
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The filter can easily be subverted provided you have some knowledge of Old and/or Middle English. So for example this will not be caught by the filter (though maybe some astute admin will kill it). May no man slepe in youre halle For flyes, Madame, For flyes, Madame, But gyf he haue a tent of xv enche Wyt such byes To dryve awey the flyes, Madame. Iblessyd be such byes That maketh such suyes By tuynne my lady thyes To dryve awey the flyes, Madame. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:54
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Chaucer? -------------
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:54
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Of all the things I should care about, this does not rank very high on the list.
I do think it's funny, though. Does putting a few asterisks in between the letters make it not a swear word? If anything it draws more attention to it and makes you think more about the word. And who in the world doesn't know these words? Surely before I was 10 I was saying f**k and all, now I wonder how much sooner kids who have better internet access will be one-upping my swearing...
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 19:58
I think the author is unknown, though it's from that general era. Personally, I think it was written by a previous incarnation of Zappa. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 20:02
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Lol, I thought that's what Chaucer was, lol. -------------
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 20:09
Most Russian/European born hockey players who make their living in the NHL would beg to differ. And actually, I'd wager "swear" words are the first, and sometimes the only, words most people learn in a foreign language. The "dirty" words are about all I retained from 4 years of German. ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 20:23
Ha the story goes that when Ichiro first came over here and joined the Mariners, the first thing (courtesy Jay Buhner) he learned to do was to swear. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 24 2011 at 22:29
That's the first thing Evgeni Malkin learned in the Penguins locker room and if the tv guys get their mics too close, to the ice, it's still the only English you'll probably catch from him. Being Pittsburgh we all just find it endearing. ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 25 2011 at 04:16
But why do you need to add 'f**k' to a sentence to add to its power? -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 25 2011 at 04:38
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^ you don't; I would say there are certain writers in the confines of printed books or articles that may curse in the context of the story or account being told - Bukowski comes to mind, and Anthony Bourdain - sometimes it works, sometimes it's gratuitous. For internet conversations, I find it unnecessary. However I readily admit using mild profanity when engaging in music journalism. Sometimes you wanna write it how you'd say it. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 25 2011 at 07:01
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I under stand that, but does a profanity necessarily add 'power' to a sentence? Personally, I think it detracts.
Of course, that's only my  ing opinion -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 25 2011 at 16:37
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I guess that's up to the reader |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: October 25 2011 at 18:10
It depends on the sentence. Sometimes adding swear words to a sentence adds nothing, but sometimes they are more powerful. For example "get out" vs. "get the f out" Or how about "go away" vs. "go f yourself"? I personally think we should ONLY allow swear words as all other words are superfluous. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: October 25 2011 at 18:18
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 25 2011 at 18:58
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