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Hagoydeshago ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 27 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13215 |
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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Xonty ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 23 2013 Location: Cornwall Status: Offline Points: 1759 |
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Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Procol Harum, early Jethro Tull, and so on, err onto a progressive blues side, but the genre doesn't properly exist because the more progressive it gets, the less bluesy for me. Any sophisticated lyrics, chord progressions, or instrumentation draws it towards prog.
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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There are inverted chord structures in Blues that later made their way into Jazz. That alone opens a new or different method of improvisation within Blues. That particular approach is progressive and can be often heard in the early recordings of Johnny Winter. For example....."Don't Talk To Your Daughter" taken from a concert featured on the remaster of Second Winter. Fast swing style Blues featuring piano soloing can often go outside a Blues scale for extended moments of time. Instead of typical Blues riffs played over a 4 bar Blues structure, other , more dimensional choices of improvisation are present. I have often observed guitar playing of this nature in the music of Goblin and Camel. Obviously...
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leibniz ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: April 17 2014 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I came across these guys playing in Cumbria the other week - they fit the bill I think! http://undergroundballroom.co.uk/
Split is a great album and Tony McPhee told me he thought of himself as John Lee Hooker with a bit more latitude, so that's progressive blues. |
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Lewa ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 17 2009 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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Hi, not sure if I understand prog-alike song structures quite right. What about Eric Burdon declares war? That always seemed prog in its storytelling qualities to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtJVcKJX_L0 |
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tamijo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
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It was a new dayiiiiia yesterday, but by god its an old dayiiia noweeeee
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Svetonio ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
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Just released http://scottgillham.bandcamp.com/track/blues-in-dm
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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Oh ok. I never bought it, I thought it was just a reissue of KCCC releases I already have (Live at Detroit, Live at Plymouth, and Live at Jacksonville)...is it a different show?
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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Oh, I meant the Ladies of the Road live double CD... |
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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Let me clarify, Islands is one of my fave Crimso albums, but the only thing on Earthbound I love is Schizoid
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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What, you didn't groove on Ladies of the Road ![]() Mel Collins just rips on most of his solos. He really slays me. To think that the first playing I ever heard of his was on a Dire Straits live album ![]() I'd love to think he'd have torn one of Mark Knopfler's ballad numbers apart with a full strength freeform jazz eruption one night of the tour just for fun...still you can lose some lucrative gigs that way ![]() |
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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I'd pay for that! It's funny but before the KCCC issued those 3 releases from the Boz/Mel/Ian/RF phase, that was my least favourite Crimso lineup. I loved the version of Schizoid Man on Earthbound but found the rest mostly unbearable. I just finished listening to the Live in Detroit album and their versions of Pictures, Mars, Formentera, Ladies of the Road, and especially the super slowed down Cirkus were outstanding. My favourite part is the long lecture from Fripp to audience about how screaming for the old songs and not giving them the chance to play their new stuff is so hurtful, then they pull out the 12 bar "Court of the Crimson King" and bludgeon the crowd in revenge...Detroit never knew what happened
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20650 |
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Yes.....I realized that Smurph's post was later in the thread...got him confused with the original poster....but as to Smurphs question whch some one else also brought up , nope is the right answer since it wouldn't be true blues anymore.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Nope... and Nope. The OP by awaken77 was: "Is there such thing like "progressive blues" or "progressive blues-rock", with obvious blues roots, but some prog-alike song structures ?" Smurph's question about actual Progressive Blues was 4 pages later
Nope.
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20650 |
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I still think we are missing an aspect of the original point of the thread......We have all named progressive blues rock bands but my impression was that the thread starter is interested in progressive blues artists that embody the original bluesmen. I honestly can't think of any since if they were playing in that classic blues tradition, prog or not, would it still be considered blues..?
This is why I mentioned Black Keys, Gary Clark, etc but these guys are not really progressive blues as much as an update on it. And the others mentioned are progressive blues rock.
Smurph mentioned someone playing ala Robert Johnson but in a progressive manner...is that even possible?
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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Yeah it's the Summit Studios one - must admit I tend to skip the 'Gumby' track. It loses its appeal a bit after the first couple of listens. Mind you with the comprehensive DGM release schedule it's probably only a matter of time before we get a compilation CD of Ian's stand up comedy routines from various gigs ![]() Edited by Mascodagama - July 08 2013 at 08:45 |
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Sagichim ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
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This is a good one...Kraut Blues???
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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That was Ian Wallace and apparently he was quite the comedian. There's another Crimso Collectors Club disc (I think it's #9 - "Live at Summit Studio's 1972") where he does the entire Monty Python Gumby Flower Arranging sketch for the Colorado radio staff. Since Monty Python's Flying Circus wasn't broadcast in the US until 1974, the American's in attendance had no idea what this nut job was talking about ![]() |
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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^...and what the hell was the thing with the 7 UP??
Overall that is the oddest Crimson live recording I've heard yet. "Caught With The Crimson Thing" really deserves to be a track title, if not an album title ![]() |
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