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Topic: Progressive blues - is such thing exist?Posted By: awaken77
Subject: Progressive blues - is such thing exist?
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 02:27
Is there such thing like "progressive blues" or "progressive blues-rock", with obvious blues roots, but some prog-alike song structures ?
Jimmy Hendrix Experience, The Doors, Ten Years After, Santana played some long tracks, but they are not "prog" in general sense (although had some influence to early prog genre )
Replies: Posted By: EchidnasArf
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 02:39
The late 60s-early 70s San Francisco scene instantly comes to mind with bands like Jefferson Airplane, Quicksilver Messenger Service, and obviously Grateful Dead. Santana, Hendrix, Traffic, and Cream all fit the bill as well.
If you really listen, there are traces of blues in most prog rock, most commonly appearing through the ever-present use of the blues minor pentatonic and chromatic scales. That's where you'll hear the "blues" sound.
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 03:46
From the ones I know, Ten Years After, Fleetwood Mac and Bakerloo were the ones who came closer to what one might call "prog-blues", but it depends on the albums. And then there's Floyd.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 07:27
Bit of a no-brainer this : Led Zep
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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 07:33
Floyd, definately.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 07:35
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 08:11
To that add Jethro Tull - very much a blues band in their earliest incarnation.
In fact, there was a whole pile of such bands, some of which are on the site, others not. The Yardbirds, Led Zep, Fleetwood Mac, Jon Spencers band, John Mayall. The list is pretty long.
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 08:19
I've lost track of what Progressive is actually supposed to mean. Most classic prog bands played Blues in some form or another. And most rock and psychedelic bands from the late 60's had mainly blues influences. Trying to give more old bands yet another label isn't an endeavour i'd be much interested in taking part in though.
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Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 08:32
what about modern bands? blues seems to be forgotten (with exception of some jazz-fusion bands )
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 08:48
Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.
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Posted By: GypsyJoker
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 08:50
Some of Roy Buchanan's work (Fly Night Bird) might qualify.
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Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 09:09
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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 09:33
Some Yes tracks are really bluesy. Like I've seen all good people: it's a blues shuffle.
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:02
awaken77 wrote:
Is there such thing like "progressive blues" or "progressive blues-rock", with obvious blues roots, but some prog-alike song structures ?
Jimmy Hendrix Experience, The Doors, Ten Years After, Santana played some long tracks, but they are not "prog" in general sense (although had some influence to early prog genre )
The improvisation of Alvin Lee on songs like "I Can't Keep From Crying Sometimes" are in a minor key and his usage of octives are commonly used in in progressive rock and jazz.. For example Steve Howe. Some people confuse it with something else. Alvin Lee's choice of octives in a minor key are the same as Steve Howe's except Howe is playing his octives over an unusual time signature created by Bruford and Squire. In the real world of the musician....that is the only difference. The improvisation in Blues has been played in a fashion which tells us it is outside the melody. Outside the pentatonic scale. Chromatic scales or passages combined with proggish guitar riffing in a minor key like that of Andrew Latimer. The actual difference is usually the chord changes in Prog which of course differ from Blues as a whole.
"People Are Strange" by the Doors contains a melody which has often been repeated in early traditional European Folk music. For example....an old Irish song sung in the pub. Some of the bands you have mentioned ....their ideas derived from European influences centuries ago and perhaps that is what you are hearing? The old Blues masters sometimes crossed into jazz improv when they migrated to Chicago and added horns to the Blues. Or even the New Orleans sound as well. It's when Blues becomes a half breed of Jazz, but not so much Classical like in early Prog. More to the Cantenbury improv style if anything WHICH...derives from American jazz. There is a section of "1983 A Merman I Shall turn to Be' where Hendrix overdubbed about 4 guitars to do harmony. Mitch Mitchell is playing a marching beat and if you listen closely to that section you might notice that it sounds a bit European. With Hendrix there were sections of his songs that sounded prog related. Sometimes he fell into the Space rock or Krautrock moments with Chris Wood on flute and the spacy undertone of backward loops on guitar. Guru, Guru were seriously influenced by the Space Rock approach of the Hendrix trio on Kanguru. Mani was not trying to emulate Mitchell yet he was approaching the feel of the drums from that angle.
I suppose you might say there is progressive Blues rock? I only see that light through some of the more distant outside improvisation in Blues music where the piano is dominate and soloing outside the blues scales and in rapid form with a very fast swing beat that contains a 4 bar blues progression and chord substitution. Because with Santana and the Latin feel,....well there was already Jazz in Latin music for many years prior to Carlos hitting the music scene. Although with the Latin culture he was schooled a bit and it was natural for him to add the influence to create Latin Rock. I have heard older Latin music which sounded pretty close to the first Santana album in style and structure. Los Lobos did the same thing really. They understood blues and played it well, however I think Jazz was more keen to be a companion to Latin music due to the natural gymnastics of music which derives from Mexico and Spain. It already had a jazz mentality and it was full of passion. Quite like sword play. lol
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:41
Regarding early Fleetwood Mac,.....there wasn't any influence of prog from Mr. Jeremy Spencer. He utterly hated "In the Court of the Crimson King" He was one of those prog haters by nature. If anything sounded close to prog elements the credit would fall into the arms of Kirwan and Green. The closest Spencer ever came to prog in any sense of the word was when he did a cover of a NICE song which he played quietly on piano and gave it a flow of Folk influence.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:48
I would nominate Groundhogs' Split (parts 1-4) - the title track from the split album is a Heavy-Psyche-Progressive-Blues epic
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Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:59
how 'bout this one ?
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:04
Gentle giant is by roots very blusey even though they are all over the place, they got strong blues roots,
I would also call early Elton John progressive blues rock, cosue he experimented alot with blues and chrod progressions within the blues format
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Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:06
silverpot wrote:
Floyd, definately.
yes, that's a good example don't mention short songs (lot of them are blues-influenced), but even long suites like Echoes and Shine On Your Craze Diamond have bluesy feeling (thanks to Mr Gilmour)
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:07
Most of the people in this thread don't seem to know what the blues are.
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:26
I haven't heard this one, but:
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Posted By: BenevolentBehemoth
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:33
All of the Gentle Giant Debut.
Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:59
Steamhammer. Especially Mk.II and Mountains. Thier last album as a trio, Speech(1972) was proto-metal/heavy prog/space-psych endeavour similar to that of Hawkwind. Steve Joliffe (Tangerine Dream) appeared on Mk. II (1969) with his sax and flute and the addition of drummer Mickey Bradley took the band more to a prog/blues/jazz fusion.
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 20:08
Check out Roine Stolt's album Wallstreet Voodoo.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 21:28
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.
Absolutely. Sadly, not for everyone.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 22:00
yeah they're called Led Zeppelin
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: August 08 2011 at 23:01
Man With Hat wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: August 09 2011 at 06:31
I don't think most folks here would consider this progressive, but by the same token many hardcore Delta or urban blues fans wouldn't consider it proper blues either.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: August 09 2011 at 07:04
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: August 09 2011 at 11:54
The_Jester wrote:
Some Yes tracks are really bluesy. Like I've seen all good people: it's a blues shuffle.
A bit of a tenuous connection though. I would describe that more as boogie (woogie optional!), along with the Tormato demo track "Money".
There is blues in Steve Howe, but it gets a bit lost amongst all the other influences and styles that make up Yes.
Posted By: desistindo
Date Posted: August 09 2011 at 13:01
A lot of heavy prog got blues influences, id highlight Atomic Rooster:
But i have to say that blues is sometimes "anti-prog", cause is a genre too much tide in rigid scales, so you can run from the circular structure.
Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: August 10 2011 at 03:38
desistindo wrote:
But i have to say that blues is sometimes "anti-prog", cause is a genre too much tide in rigid scales, so you can run from the circular structure.
yes, it is . traditional blues songs use 12-bar or 16-bar I-IV-V chord progression, and most of blues songs have pretty the same structure.
progressive rock is not that simply defined, it's very various and flexible, and there is no such thing as "prog rock chord progression" . that's why all this topic arisen.
but what, if would song started from 12-bar blues progression, then developed into complex piece with mix of classical and jazz-inspired soloing and tempo/key changes, and then reverted back to I-IV-V. I'd call that "progressive blues rock" then
p.s when I wrote this, Artur Brown's Kingdom Come come to mind. Galactic Zoo Dossier is very much prog-rock, but blues roots are everywhere
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 13 2011 at 17:50
Well, three songs come to mind as obvious progressive blues masterpieces:
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 13 2011 at 21:05
Dialing it back to about 1971-2 gives us a bunch. Wishbone Ash, Captain Beyond, Deep Purple (arguably), Bloodwyn Pig, Led Zep, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd etc.
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 13 2011 at 21:50
Procol Harum, early days. When Trower was with the band, they always had a bluesy streak ranging from straightforward (Salty Dog's "Juicy John Pink") to twisty and epic (Broken Barricades' "Simple Sister"). Some the stuff on their debut could be classified as doom blues: heavy blues riffs with apocalyptic, or just plain weird, lyrical imagery ("Cerdes (Outside the Gates Of)," "Something Following Me").
Of course, the best prog-blues-epic I've ever heard has gotta be the Tull's live rendition of "Rocks on the Road" as found on Little Light Music:
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Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 05:12
This song has obvious blues progression in it
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 06:02
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 06:24
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 06:27
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 07:21
Nice version of Young Man Blues ( with few minutes of backstage )
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 10:18
SaltyJon wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.
Absolutely. Sadly, not for everyone.
That´s what I thought - and the song that immediately started playing from inside my face - was this little bugger:
In fact Mirrorman, pretty much sums up what I believe to be progressive delta blues.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 10:31
Amazing track by The Grateful Dead
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 10:51
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 13:19
Dean wrote:
I would nominate Groundhogs' Split (parts 1-4) - the title track from the split album is a Heavy-Psyche-Progressive-Blues epic
That's the first thing I thought of.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 13:30
Svetonio wrote:
Probably pushing the definition a bit. This is The Who's cover of an old Eddie Cochran hit from the rock n' roll era, a hit at the time when Fripp was in short trousers.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 17 2011 at 11:34
Hi,
I would definitly add Groundhogs to this mix and bunch. Very original.
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: August 17 2011 at 12:26
It's based on rock music, which is blues music......have you heard Frank Zappa?
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: August 17 2011 at 17:34
Svetonio wrote:
Just because it has the word "blues" in the title doesn't mean it's blues.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 00:18
I'd say this is the best "progressive blues" I've ever heard!
These guys were AWESOME during the 35th Anniversary tour, the stage chemistry was killer! That's why I was so stunned when stuff fell apart a few years later.
Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 09:16
cstack3 wrote:
I'd say this is the best "progressive blues" I've ever heard!
yes it is! while still progressive, it is much more "bluesy" then original album version
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: August 21 2011 at 02:00
Another vote for Beefheart- it's actually the distorted messed up soul of the blues, with insanely complex and chaotic arrangements. He's more prog than 95% of the bands on this site.
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Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 09:18
is it prog blues?
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 10:04
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I would definitly add Groundhogs to this mix and bunch. Very original.
Absolutely. Been getting really into Groundhogs recently. No idea why it's taken me so long to check them out...
And I might as well add yet another endorsement of Beefheart whilst I'm here. His blues couldn't be any bluesier, nor his prog any proggier. Shiny Beast's a pretty decent place to start with the Captain, IMO.
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 00:22
The Hemulen wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I would definitly add Groundhogs to this mix and bunch. Very original.
Absolutely. Been getting really into Groundhogs recently. No idea why it's taken me so long to check them out...
Yeah Groundhogs are pretty cool.
The Hemulen wrote:
And I might as well add yet another endorsement of Beefheart whilst I'm here. His blues couldn't be any bluesier, nor his prog any proggier. Shiny Beast's a pretty decent place to start with the Captain, IMO.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 00:48
Broken record here, has anyone bothered to listen to Butterfield Blues Band's East-West (the song, particularly, the album in general). So much started with that album that it's sick.
Do a Youtube search, there's a ton of versions there. I'll say it again, they probably belong here in some psych or pre-prog category.
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 09:30
jammun wrote:
Broken record here, has anyone bothered to listen to Butterfield Blues Band's East-West (the song, particularly, the album in general). So much started with that album that it's sick.
Do a Youtube search, there's a ton of versions there. I'll say it again, they probably belong here in some psych or pre-prog category.
"East-West" has to one be one of the most influential songs from the last half of the '60's. Bloomfield guitar work was groundbraking at the time. The album is a classic. 5 stars.
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Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 09:38
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 09:59
Brainbox??
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 10:49
I think this qualifies:
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 06 2011 at 15:28
I'd say Colosseum fit the bill,
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: May 30 2012 at 12:28
I'm just listening to it for the first time right now, but what about Can's Tago Mago? There's quite a few down-to-earth, funky bass lines that would feel right at home on a swampy blues album. Same with some of the drum beats, not to mention the fact that the album is filled with pentatonic guitar licks.
EDIT: Okay, maybe the first half of Tago Mago.
I know I'm awakening an old thread, but the concept of progressive blues interests me; it's a combination of my two favorite music styles.
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 30 2012 at 12:36
Well, I feel like you guys are talking progressive blues rock, which is within the heavy prog and other random catagories...
BUT what about progressive REAL blues.
Blind Willie Mctell, Jimmy Johnson, etc. BUT prog versions of this kinda music.
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: May 30 2012 at 15:17
I haven't read the whole thread but I can definitely add Groundhogs!!
Very bluesy and still pretty progressive and very interesting with killer guitar stuff, highly recommended!
EDIT: oh oh just saw they were suggested, oh well...
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: May 30 2012 at 15:21
sagichim wrote:
I haven't read the whole thread but I can definitely add Groundhogs!!
Very bluesy and still pretty progressive and very interesting with killer guitar stuff, highly recommended!
Who Will Save the World? The Mighty Groundhogs! is a very good album. haven't liked much else from what I've heard though.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: May 30 2012 at 15:34
irrelevant wrote:
sagichim wrote:
I haven't read the whole thread but I can definitely add Groundhogs!!
Very bluesy and still pretty progressive and very interesting with killer guitar stuff, highly recommended!
Who Will Save the World? The Mighty Groundhogs! is a very good album. haven't liked much else from what I've heard though.
That's funny man, I have all their albums except for the first two, and I must say 'Who Will Save...' is their weakest album IMO. Of course Split and Hogwash are great but also Black Diamond is very strong, doesn't have any recognition around here. They were a great band!!
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 30 2012 at 17:08
Dean, on Page 1 wrote:
I would nominate Groundhogs' Split (parts 1-4) - the title track from the split album is a Heavy-Psyche-Progressive-Blues epic
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 01:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBlHtuxYcA8" rel="nofollow - Here 's an interesting turn on "progressive blues".
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 17:12
Dean wrote:
I would nominate Groundhogs' Split (parts 1-4) - the title track from the split album is a Heavy-Psyche-Progressive-Blues epic
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I still think of stuff like this as more than just its source, and a serious attempt to make it better and fit well next to the early blues folks ... the feeling is there, the wording is there, and the music is definitly there!
As for progressive?
I always thought Family/Streetwalkers were progressive and very nice ... but it was also quite influenced by a lot of things, though one could say that early family albums they might have been too stoned/ripped to know it any better, until you listen to "It's Only a Movie" and "Bandstand" ... this is serious music, and it fits progressive, though it sounds like magnificently written rock music all around!
Sometimes I wonder why we get stuck on Steve Howe, and then hear this guy ... and the only person that knows how to use effects better than McPhee would be Jimi ... or maybe even John Weinzierl from Amon Duul 2! Almost no one else, even comes close to being able to use it so well!
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 23:22
moshkito wrote:
Now playing: (in its entirety!)
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 10:53
thehallway wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
Some Yes tracks are really bluesy. Like I've seen all good people: it's a blues shuffle.
A bit of a tenuous connection though. I would describe that more as boogie (woogie optional!), along with the Tormato demo track "Money".
There is blues in Steve Howe, but it gets a bit lost amongst all the other influences and styles that make up Yes.
I believe I read in a recent interview that Steve Howe actually tried to stay away from blues.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 11:07
When I read the title of this thread, the first thing that came to my mind was "Since I've been loving you" from Led Zeppelin. Really love that song.
Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 11:13
EchidnasArf wrote:
If you really listen, there are traces of blues in most prog rock, most commonly appearing through the ever-present use of the blues minor pentatonic and chromatic scales. That's where you'll hear the "blues" sound.
Exactly.
Deep Purple "Lazy".
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95% of prog came from bluesrock.
Listen to Offenbach double "Tabarnac" lp set for good blues organ.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 16:02
95% of all rock came from blues, Prog was a conscious shift away from blues.
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Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 16:05
Yep.
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Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 16:30
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 06:13
Smurph wrote:
I asked this earlier but no response so I wanted to ask again.
We are talking about progressive blues rock.
What about real progressive blues? Like Robert Johnson or Son House but Prog?
If it exists (and there is no logical reason why not), then it wouldn't be Prog Rock just as Progressive Jazz or Progressive Trance isn't, so would not be found in the "Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Recommendations/Featured albums" sub-forum
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 07:29
Am I wrong or nobody has mentioned Jethro Tull?
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Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 07:38
Posted By: AbrahamSapien
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 09:43
Didn't check whether it has allready been mentioned but Shine on You Crazy Diamond is according to the form actually a blues. ;)
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 09:58
AbrahamSapien wrote:
Didn't check whether it has allready been mentioned but Shine on You Crazy Diamond is according to the form actually a blues. ;)
Staying on Pink Floyd, Pigs is another blues with a classical blues sequence of chords in the instrumental part.
And when the signature changes from 7/4 to 4/4 Money is a blues as well.
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Posted By: Investinmolden
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 11:17
I definitely agree wtih both of you that "classic" Pink Floyd can be easily considered progressive blues rock; I think, as in all prog generes, it's about some rythm and chord progression etc. in the basis of a track (as many people here and you have already said). The band I play guitar in also considers itself as progressive blues rock band - so I feel close to the thread :)
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Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 22:19
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 22:31
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Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 22:54
Serbian blues princess Ana Popović
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 22:57
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 23:14
Smak Bluz od vina (transl. "Blues of Wine"), 1974
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 23:19
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Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 23:36
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 02 2013 at 17:13
Getting back to the original thread title -blues is a stylized traditional sound and for it to be 'progressive' it would no longer be blues per se....
I think many prog blues rock bands have been mentioned so far in the thread, and there are many modern blues artists who have 'reinvented' the blues genre so to speak yet are still in the blues tradition: Joe Bonnamassa, Gary Clark Jr., The Black Keys, Alabama Shakes, etc.
I'm not sure how one can sound like Robert Johnson, BB King, or Muddy Waters and be 'progessive' at the same time.
I listened to Wishbone Ash today and for me that's 'progressive blues'.
Maybe some one else can cite an artist doing 'prog blues' ala the old timers...?
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 02 2013 at 18:26
At the risk of giving Pedro apoplexy (again) I can only state The Groundhogs (again), because they were a blues rock band (white English dudes for sure, but they were John Lee Hooker's backing band in the early 60s) and they produced albums that extended the format in progressive ways - marked by their album "Blues Obituary" where they symbolically and musically buried traditional 12-bar blues. They were even marketted as "Progressive Blues Rock" in the late 60s.
Another band that comes to mind (because they've been suggested for inclusion here several times [and rejected]) is teh Edgar Broughton Band.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 03 2013 at 06:49
dr wu23 wrote:
Gary Clark Jr., The Black Keys
I'm a big fan of Gary Clark Jr's album, but some of it is retro rather than progressive. I'm not an expert on The Black Keys but what I've heard sounds like a rehash of early T.Rex to me.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 03 2013 at 11:25
chopper wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Gary Clark Jr., The Black Keys
I'm a big fan of Gary Clark Jr's album, but some of it is retro rather than progressive. I'm not an expert on The Black Keys but what I've heard sounds like a rehash of early T.Rex to me.
Compared to trad blues they and others are 'progressive' in that they are doing an update on the blues but I don't fundamentally disagree with you, but I don't hear T Rex in the Black Keys.
To me 'progressive' blues or blues rock are the bands already mentioned here and they stray from straight blues.
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