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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 15 2009 at 08:14 |
For me after A, Tull started putting out merely good but non-essential albums rather than great ones. Still I have and like both Rock Island and Crest Of A Knave.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 15 2009 at 17:13
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PROGMONSTER2008
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:58 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I have a theory about the Jethro Tull and here is the theory as is it is: Jethro Tull was thin at the beginning, much much more interesting the beginning of the middle and much less interesting after that. That is the theory that I have and is as such that it is.
On a more seriouser note, "A" kind of marked the period after which I got much less interested.
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Is that Anne Elkes theory? Cough Cough lol
I really like 'A' though
Fylingdale flyer, Uniform, Pine Martin, Protect and Survive, And further on. Great tunes
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:41 |
I have a theory about the Jethro Tull and here is the theory as is it is: Jethro Tull was thin at the beginning, much much more interesting the beginning of the middle and much less interesting after that. That is the theory that I have and is as such that it is.
On a more seriouser note, "A" kind of marked the period after which I got much less interested.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 15 2009 at 08:15
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PROGMONSTER2008
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:09 |
I reckon if I took my fave 5 songs from every remaster, I think 2 or 3 songs from each cd would be bonus tracks, this is assuming the following songs were also included on the remasters to give us even more bonus tracks
This was-Blues for the 18th
Aqualung-For later, Life is a long song(remix), Up the pool, Wond'ring again, Dr Bogenbroom, Nursie, Locomotive breath(MU version)
Warchild-Bungle in the jungle(remix)
Heavy horses-Blues instrumental
Broadsword-Motoyeres, Jackalynn(full unplugged version), Crew nights, Commons brawl, The curse, No step, Drive on the young side of life, Lights out
Rock island-Man of principal, Hard liner
Catfish rising-Silver river turning, Truck stop runner, I don't want to be me, Piece of cake, Rosa on the factory floor
Dotcom-It all trickles down
Would be nice if Broadsword was a double cd remaster and some of the drum tracks were remixed to get a nice sound and consistency through the whole 26 songs. Would be nice if the drums were also remixed in Under wraps, Crest and Rock island in the same manner
here's some examples of good and bad drums on those remasters
broadsword
good-too many too, seal driver, flying colours
bad-beastie, jackalyn, pussy willow
under wraps(none of the drums are really good because they are way too tinny sounding)
potentially good-radio free moscow, nobodys car, paparazzi
bad-heat, lap of luxury, under wraps 1
crest
good-the waking edge
bad-raising steam, steel monkey
rock island
good-kissing willie
bad-another christmas song
Edited by PROGMONSTER2008 - February 14 2009 at 16:22
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Borris
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 15:44 |
I have loved Jethro Tull for a long time. I first heard Aqualung and Thick as a Brick when it was released. The cover was amazing, funny & silly, that was cover art used to full effect.
My favourites are Stand Up: I've never taken to This Was, but this album has fantastic songs and a real charm.
Aqualung: Title track is amazing as well as the accoustic numbers, a classic album. With this album a totally unique voice had unveiled itself.
Thick as a Brick: What can I say, very English, quirky, poetic, musically engaging, cynical, funny. Popular albums don't sound this idiosyncratic anymore.
Song from the Wood: A newly forged folk tradition. Spritly fresh a nice dash of Paganism. I love it.
Heavy Horses: A more earthy follow up. But again, what an excellent collection of thematically consistent songs. Makes me realise that one on the main things Tull had going for them, on top of their excellent musicianship was engaging, well written, thought provoking songs.
Stormwatch: Home is a completely beautiful song, the rest of the album is good too.
Broadsword and the Beast: a bit of an end of an era, doesn't really give us anything too new, but good songs.
Crest of a Knave: enter ZZ Top and Dire Straits influence, a good album though. Jump Start is a killer track, cool that Tull is exploring new territory.
Roots to Branches: Moody, evocative album, maybe the most mature album to date.
Christmas Album: This one probably doesn't get on too many peoples top list, but a few years back I started up a thing with Christmas music, this gives me a nice warm feeling & is an excellent ode to Christmas time. Sentimental perhaps but not without insight and a few barbs.
A really impressive catalogue and a wonderful individual voice, great songs, great music, very English, they have enriched my life for sure.
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EnderEd
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 12:14 |
My love for Tull has changed over the years -- I appreciate their art much more today than I did 20 years ago. I used to be a die-hard "only the pre-WarChild" stuff is worth posterity. But now my favorites include "The Flying Dutchman" from Stormwatch and "The Pine Marten's Jig" from 'A', which makes me stop what I'm doing to listen every time it plays.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 12:05 |
A real overlooked Tull album is 'A' as well as the awesome Roots to Branches which brings back the Prog roots in a perfect state.
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Drummerboy
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:49 |
Another overlooked one is Broadsword. Apparently much more popular in Europe than the Americas. Upon reflection, it may be his goodbye to the Tull as they had been, and the turning point toward a lighter, more mature style, in keeping with their advancing years.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:38 |
I`m suprised that none of you guys have mentioned Bursting Out. Killer live album witha wicked Barimore Barloow drum solo on the instrumental Conundrum which incidently has a couple of meanings : An intricate problem or a riddle or joke whose answer contains a pun. Snce it`s an instrumental track hard to say what the intended meaning is supposed to be but I would go with the latter.
Edited by Vibrationbaby - February 13 2009 at 10:40
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:24 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Who is this Jethro Tull guy anyway?
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Remember that witch in the 1939 movie The Wizard of Oz who melts after a young girl tosses water on her. That would be Jethro Tull. Don`t believe all the nonsense of him being an 18th century agronomist who invented some kind drill for planting seeds in a straight row. He was definitely the Witch in that movie.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:14 |
Bitterblogger wrote:
Agree about John Evan. His fade started early, as the John Evan Band was the original name. |
It was actually called The Blades ( after the bar in the James Bond novel Casino Royale of which Anderson was a fan. His fancy for spy novels was later reflected by the lyrical content on the 1984 album Under Wraps which for some reason is considered to be one of their weaker records), the name was then switched to The John Evan band, then to the John Evan Smash ( his real name was Evans but I guess they deleted the S because sounded better . His mother had provided the tour van they used to haul their equipment around in during Tull`s formative years from `63 - `65.
Edited by Vibrationbaby - February 13 2009 at 10:17
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PROGMONSTER2008
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 20:49 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
He`s left over. Right now my favourite Tull album is jtull.com. The only Tull album with a female vocalist. |
Very underrated album. It may be a bit long but there are some real gems on this album and the outtake 'It all trickles down' is probably better than half the songs on the album. Adding the outtake, you'll find a strong 40 minutes worth of music among the 60 minutes. One of the better rock sessions in the last 25 years imo
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 15:39 |
Wait for the next album man !
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LinusW
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 15:20 |
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Most played, but absolutely not my favourite band. I absolutely adored them initially, but nowadays I just don't get the same kick out of their music, and find many of the albums kind of uneven. Still, a number of extraordinary songs
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 14:52 |
He`s left over. Right now my favourite Tull album is jtull.com. The only Tull album with a female vocalist.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 13:09 |
Who is this Jethro Tull guy anyway?
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 10 2009 at 20:42
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Leftoverture
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 11:32 |
okay my post about listening to Minsterl got me listening to it real close and at about 4 or 5 minutes into the title song there is a riff which some metal band stole. I think its a black metal band like Emperor or satyricon..maybe Darkthrone can anyone help with this. I just want to know so the next time my "metal only" friends talk sh*t about prog and Tull I can one up them
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Drummerboy
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 10:00 |
One thing which really sets them apart is how they have continued to make music which both has their trademark sound, but has moved with the times for 40 years now. They have aged very gracefully in my opinion by embracing world music sounds to complement their folk-leaning side. I lost track of them for a while, but enjoy RTB, etc. for what it is; may not gain many new fans, but has kept the old ones (at least this one) on board.
Do not forget, Aqualung is what put them over the top in the US, and was the thinking person's heavy rock album. But, when Thick as a Brick came out, it was completely new ground being broken. In its own way Songs from the Wood was also a revelation. Finally, Tull has always been great live, Ian really knows how to put on a show!
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: February 09 2009 at 18:41 |
Agree about John Evan. His fade started early, as the John Evan Band was the original name.
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Joe Rockhead
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Posted: February 09 2009 at 13:58 |
Jethro Tull got me hooked with Cross Eyed Mary. My favourite songs are the latter, Wond'ring Again, Thick As A Brick ( Side 1 ). The Third Hoorah, and Minstrell In The Gallery. This is my short list as I have all of their music. Ian Anderson is a genius even if he is a bit extravagant.. Their early period ( Living In The Past ) was I feel their finest music or their "Peak". Too bad John Evans faded away album by album.
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J Rockhead
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