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stonebeard
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 19:20 |
(will it never just go away?)
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bruin69
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 19:08 |
Ahem! To get back to the original thread - "Kayleigh" had the singlehanded effect of putting me off Marillion for YEARS! It was worse than anything Phil Collins inflicted on Genesis...
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mystic fred
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:55 |
i just like the songs, they're not very demanding i agree, i just like 'em sometimes. the promoters and media have oversold Coldplay, they shove 'em right in yer face, now everyone's sick of them. you can even buy "X & Y" in the supermarket along with the milk and sausages! are you put off by a group because they're absolutely everywhere? i was put off getting "Brothers in Arms" for years as i was sick of hearing about it, i heard it at every bar and house party i went to. it was marketed as the "greatest album ever made" at the time, it is good and i have it now, but sometimes you feel like a sheep if you follow the flavour of the month.
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Teaflax
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 04:55 |
It's not that Coldplay are gloomy, it's just that their songs don't ever go
anywhere. Each songs starts in one mode and then just stays in it, also
about a minute into the song, you've pretty much heard every single
idea they've bothered to put into it.
They're easily outflanked in the same general field by The Doves, Elbow and even Athlete, when they're in a darker mood.
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Wilcey
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 04:53 |
Don't get me started on ColdPlay.........I would need some considerable time in the ranting room with that one!
Ok there are some good "radio" toons there, ......... not worthy of the ammount of aclolades poured onto them though!
P-C
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mystic fred
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 04:47 |
Minkia wrote:
No wonder it's a bad song: it reached the charts! Which means that the moment people at large start liking stuff like that, it instantly turns it into crap.
Still, it's not as bad as Coldplay. |
what's the matter with Coldplay?? i admit they're a bit gloooomy but they have got some good toons! ...and they're British!!
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 04:33 |
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The Miracle
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 18:40 |
Trouserpress wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
Any punk song is worse
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Oh don't be so silly. |
Dead serious
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Wilcey
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 18:37 |
Minkia wrote:
Still, it's not as bad as Coldplay.
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Minkia
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 18:36 |
No wonder it's a bad song: it reached the charts! Which means that the moment people at large start liking stuff like that, it instantly turns it into crap.
Still, it's not as bad as Coldplay.
Edited by Minkia - May 25 2006 at 18:37
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RELIGION IS HATE, RELIGION IS FEAR, RELIGION IS WAR,RELIGION IS RAPE, RELIGION'S OBSCENE,RELIGION'S A WHORE
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sleeper
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 18:34 |
Teaflax wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Actualy I think it fits in perfectly on Misplaced Childhood |
I completely agree. That album is an absolute stinker.
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Sorry, we dont agree. MC isnt Marillions best album but it is a damn good album IMO.
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Wilcey
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 18:16 |
nuffin wrong wiv a pink garden and puppies!
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 18:12 |
Yeah, Kayleigh and Lavender dilly dilly, Lavender do dah, bum bum, la-la. Music to skip to across a pink garden with flowers and cute puppies...
Thankfully Marillion got it together with the powerful masterpiece Clutching at Straws. Ain't no kiddy pop-songs on that one folks!
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 12:15 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Along with Lavender DillyDilly, Kayleigh are the worst tracks EVER!!!
Neh-neh-neh-nehneeeeh!!!!!!!!!!
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yesterday i watched both videos... they are amazing!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 12:11 |
Along with Lavender DillyDilly, Kayleigh are the worst tracks EVER!!!
Neh-neh-neh-nehneeeeh!!!!!!!!!!
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Prog-jester
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 10:34 |
I listened to Childhood few days ago,and I must admit,that Kayleigh is a bit different from the whole mood of the side A.But as a sinlge it is better than the whole H-era!!!
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 05:44 |
prog-chick wrote:
Have you seen the "Kayleigh" page on the Fish website MysticFred? Crossing the divide between Prog and Pop was a major achievement for Marillion, and lead to a huge ammunt of fans coming into the prog genre that never previously knew it even existed! Last year at the "return" gigs by Fish the audiences were much more varied than your average prog gig. and there was SO much passion! P-C |
WOW! there are dozens of them! I also find the song very poignant, as has anyone who has had a bad break-up, it is based on Fish's own experience. thanx for the tip!
Edited by mystic fred - May 25 2006 at 05:47
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Rorro
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 03:41 |
I don't like it, as i don't like any marillion song.
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Wilcey
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 03:39 |
Have you seen the "Kayleigh" page on the Fish website MysticFred?
Crossing the divide between Prog and Pop was a major achievement for Marillion, and lead to a huge ammunt of fans coming into the prog genre that never previously knew it even existed!
Last year at the "return" gigs by Fish the audiences were much more varied than your average prog gig. and there was SO much passion!
P-C
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 02:35 |
Fish's songwriting skills are phenomenal, though his group belonged to a niche (neo-prog) genre of rock, such was their appeal Marillion managed to reach a very wide audience, and break through many boundaries. I dare say many music fans became prog rock fans as a result of Marillion's popularity. I attended a concert on their "Misplaced Childhood" tour and saw a very mixed audience indeed, not just traditional rock fans, and in 1986 this was no mean feat. Many people even named their daughters after "Kayleigh" it was such a very popular song, how many other prog rock lyricists managed to do that??
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