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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2024 at 23:59
Most threads about politics ended up in abuse and insults, that's why i never participate in such conversations. 

If i want to talk politics, i would not choose a music site. Discovering music is the point of a site like PA. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2024 at 23:57
Quote Politics as well as religion and even cultural differences are present in every form of art. This is, in my opinion, one of the things that makes prog and art in general, different from mainstream pop.
Yes, but you keep forgetting one crucial thing. Politics as well as religion and even cultural differences are present in every form of art EXCEPT when it reaches "social media", it becomes the source of dramas, flamewars, bigotry and frustration.

Would YES be the same if Jon wasn't a sort of newage guru?
When Jon was in Yes, he limited his new age shtick to music. He didn't go out and shout that through a megaphone to the whole world, trying to educate the masses, going into arguments with people who weren't into new age.

Would we have Animals without Roger's politics?
Animals was made before the advent of social media. I mean, look. Recently as soon as Waters got access to social media, his posts are making people angry.

What about Area, Battiato and many RPI artists?
Same case as Jon Anderson. And also that happened before the times when social media turned everybody into showmen with megaphones.

Is Neal Morse allowed to write and sing about his religious belief?
Yes. But then again. Neal Morse is doing it peacefully, and he avoids online dramas.

The artists you've mentioned above are staying away from public catch all forums, where people suddenly turn into keyboard warrior, and because forums are open to the general public, not exclusive to intelligent or at least 'civilized' musicians like Jon Anderson or Neal Morse, sooner or later, drama storms are bound to happen.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2024 at 23:50
I undertand that the argument is divisive and can lead to heavy discussions but...

Politics as well as religion and even cultural differences are present in every form of art. This is, in my opinion, one  of the things that makes prog and art in general, different from mainstream pop.

Would YES be the same if Jon wasn't a sort of newage guru?
Would we have Animals without Roger's politics?
What about Area, Battiato and many RPI artists?
Is Neal Morse allowed to write and sing about his religious belief?

Should this thread be deleted/closed because it's about politics?

What I mean is that despite the argument discussed, what matters is that the forum rules are respected. Single posts can be "censored" if not compliant with the rules that we accept every time we do a forum's login. 

I simply disagree with closing the thread opened by CSTACK3 only because he says he's not happy about Trump's election. 
I guess Roger Waters is unhappy as well, and in case he releases a song about Trump, we should be allowed to discuss.

Last, I want to tell CSTACK3 that he has Trump but we in Italy have Meloni. I can't say what is worse.  

On the other side, PA is open to the whole world. We have forum mates from Israel and Iran, Russia and Ukraine, in some cases from nations ruled by dictatorships where freedom of speech is not granted. For some of them, posting about politics can be dangerous. 

What is your thoughts about it?
I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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